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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-16 08:25:56
April 16 2010 06:53 GMT
#152
nice

our blogs and threads have caused plexa to chastise those who are pming him from in the sports and games mafia thread :p

that also means we should have an influx of new signups soon
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 16 2010 09:21 GMT
#154
32 people imcic
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-16 21:01:04
April 16 2010 20:56 GMT
#173
I feel that it is enough for a seperate voting thread. Really, guys. It will be difficult as fuck to keep up with all of the votes if they're in this thread this time.


Also, when is Zona's space monkey mafia?
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 16 2010 23:11 GMT
#175
It's completely up to you, man. They won't be the ones having to count the votes page by page and keep updating the votecount multiple times a day. Do what is easier on you as the mod, which makes it easier on the players.

That's my advice.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 17 2010 03:09 GMT
#191
I am building a cottage in the mountains and my name is Sven
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 17 2010 19:13 GMT
#228
well, the best strategy going forward has been detailed by me already

On April 14 2010 05:13 Bill Murray wrote:
everyone is an assassin

here's what we're going to do:

The first half of the list is required to assassinate the 2nd half of the list. The list will be inverted the next day so everyone will get their turn to kill someone if they are an assassin. They won't want to be using their kills up every single night anyways, as they can use a Detective Check on the alternate night. I will be cutting the game list into a 1/2 order. 1s are killers, 2s are killees. It will switch the next night. If you are a killer or a killee, don't complain. In all likelihood you won't have to kill or be killed, as we are not sure how many assassins there are. If the mafia kill a killee in the night, we skip a lynch to balance it (hypothetically), but if they kill a killer then we will lynch the killee of the person that they killed the killer of. I hope this is making sense to you. If anyone has any questions about the Bill Murray plan of town success let me know. This plan will help the town as it will be putting mafia players in vulnerable "killee" positions in which they would potentially lynch the "killer". We use the assassins to win as a town. They COUNT as town people, so assassins will want the town to win. It will also be giving them chances to win the game for theirselves through killing other assassins and finding assassins that they can kill at any time during the night that we aren't asking them to kill for us. If they find an assassin, they can breadcrumb a message to us previously or something to let us know BEFORE they do the action that they will be killing an alternate person (this will guarantee that they stay town as we let them go towards their goal while we go towards our goal together). I don't want assassins to claim at first, but it will become obvious after the first 2 cycles on who they are anyways, so we can be a lot more organized after the first couple day/night cycles.

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On April 14 2010 04:28 Qatol wrote:
On April 14 2010 04:09 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Disregard....Forgot my Finals/End of Term/HW/Needing a book read by Tuesday...

Thanks so much for doing this! Can't devote enough time to play seriously = sitting it out. So nice to see.


You yourself are around the thread enough, while not even playing in it, to actually play more competently than most of the people who play. Furthermore, in the small amount of what you devote, due to the time it takes you being disproportionate in relation to the time required of others to build cases taking into acount the discrepancy in skill level, you really should play.
you could still be among the best players even when devoting less time.

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On April 14 2010 05:04 Foolishness wrote:
If one of the assassins wins (i.e. all but one assassin are dead) does the game end? Or does it keep playing out until one of mafia/town win?


I hope the latter.

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On April 14 2010 04:50 Jugan wrote:
instead of a picture of lightning you should have a picture of a goat.


african or european?



i promise consolidation if you let me edit

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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 17 2010 20:33 GMT
#241
OK. Big FoS on Zona/BC for completely ignoring my valid strategy of making people pitted against each other. If we have player A vs player B we will be able to learn who the assassins are through having them strategically fight each other. If neither one is an assassin, we can have them roleclaim. I know that a lot of people on TL are against roleclaiming like this, but it is very beneficial to the town.

Good points from this:
1) we learn who the assassins are
2) assassins have an equal chance of killing other assassins
3) we will be able to see people who are unable to kill each other

This is the same approach that was attempted to be taken in Caller's last Mafiya. It was a very good strategy, and should have been followed. I feel that BC is probably town, but I'm getting serious scummy vibes from Zona. He's trying to derail the town, and is more than likely scum.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 17 2010 21:00 GMT
#249
First of all, if someone is an assassin, they aren't going to claim assassin. That's just setting a big target on their backs so that the other assassins can kill them.


I hadn't thought about the repercussions of being assassin in this system, but as you are thinking about being an assassin, perhaps you are one?
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 18 2010 01:40 GMT
#302
Noone really had read my plan. We need to have Player A and Player B decided from a preset and randomized list in which we make the person kill each other. If the lynchee is an assassin don't you think they're going to be killing someone? If the killer can't kill and we don't believe their claim we lynch them, and if the assassin wants to live as the lynchee and help the town then we can keep them alive to do our bidding for as long as they win. We lynch all liars, as we make people prove what roles they are.

This would provide a roullette style system that would greatly put pressure on 2 people at a time. In a game this size, we need to have some semblance of order so that we don't slip into the chaos of Caller's game that cause a mafia victory

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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 18 2010 01:54 GMT
#304


Assassin:

1. Zona
2. CynanMachae
3. tree.hugger
4. d3_crescentia
5. KF91
6. iNfuNdiBuLuM
7. RebirthOfLegend
8. BloodyC0bbler
9. Jugan
10. Scaramanga
11. Bill Murray
12. Fishball
13. RaGe
14. Foolishness
15. Scamp
16. Abenson
17. Ace
18. Caller
19. [NyC]HoBbes


Assassinated:
20. meeple
21. Fulgrim
22. JadeFist
23. Roffles
24. krndandaman
25. Falcynn
26. nbtnbt5
27. IntoTheWow
28. Elemenope
29. love1another
30. AcrossFiveJulys
31. nAi.PrOtOsS
32. DarthThienAn
33. Radfield
34. TheLardyGooser
35. Osmoses
36. jpak
37. motbob
38. madnessman


Would it be better for the town if we had everyone on the top list kill everyone on the bottom list tonight, or doing it one night at a time? The more I think about it, the more I don't feel like we need the top half to kill their counterpart at the bottom half.

From Zona killing Meeple to Hobbes killing madnessman. The result would still be chaotic. We need a refined system where people are scrutinized under the collective eye of the town.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 18 2010 02:10 GMT
#307
After that, we invert the list the following night. We move on to Fulgrim as the next assassin if meeple is killed. If Zona assassinates Meeple, then we can use Zona and other assassins to rolecheck when they are not going to be an assassin in the first night.


Assassin:
20. (DEAD POSSIBLY)meeple
21. Fulgrim
22. JadeFist
23. Roffles
24. krndandaman
25. Falcynn
26. nbtnbt5
27. IntoTheWow
28. Elemenope
29. love1another
30. AcrossFiveJulys
31. nAi.PrOtOsS
32. DarthThienAn
33. Radfield
34. TheLardyGooser
35. Osmoses
36. jpak
37. motbob
38. madnessman

Assassinated:
1. Zona
2. CynanMachae
3. tree.hugger
4. d3_crescentia
5. KF91
6. iNfuNdiBuLuM
7. RebirthOfLegend
8. BloodyC0bbler
9. Jugan
10. Scaramanga
11. Bill Murray
12. Fishball
13. RaGe
14. Foolishness
15. Scamp
16. Abenson
17. Ace
18. Caller
19. [NyC]HoBbes
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 18 2010 02:11 GMT
#308
On April 18 2010 11:08 Jugan wrote:
i say we lynch the KF91 guy. he's annoying.


i always feel like he's red too, he feels ridiculously scummy to me.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 18 2010 02:13 GMT
#309
Oh, and you'd put Zona under [NyC]Hobbes obviously. If Zona can't kill meeple, we lynch meeple unless he claims.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 18 2010 02:23 GMT
#312
On April 18 2010 11:21 krndandaman wrote:
Bill Murray become our president?


No, I am the representative of L the owner of all the casinos in Liq Vegas :p
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 18 2010 02:47 GMT
#315
On April 18 2010 11:41 motbob wrote:
To clarify, I would kill a random target instead of killing my assigned target.


then we lynch you
i definitely want to lynch all liars
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 18 2010 02:48 GMT
#316
you know how flamewheel thinks about me, so you all know i'm green, and probably the miller. as it is all i have is my vote, and i'm probably going to be putting it on zona. ive got a strong gut feeling on him being scum. i'd suggest you all to do the same, but lets not rush into anything stupid.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 18 2010 02:50 GMT
#317
If we lynch Zona, the Night 1 assassin will be CynanMachae, the other assassins should be rolechecking to find other assassins and scum.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 18 2010 02:51 GMT
#318
and what do you all about us doing a collective roleclaim? it puts a lot of pressure on reds like in that game where all of the reds claimed green roles when there werent any.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 18 2010 02:59 GMT
#320
When I push for a Zona lynch, it is an argument of Nature vs. Nurture. It is innate gut feeling players vs. those who use experience and concepts. I am in the previous category, and I won't criticize your play if you don't criticize mine. As far as I'm concerned, I am suspicious of anyone trying to analyze the roles of the game. For me, if Zona is red like I expect people will defend him (except maybe Meeple, as i'll explain that only if required from a majority of the town), because they are doing so only after my bringing FoS onto him. I am very suspicious of Zona and BC as I feel like their argument was a show for the town.

Wait, no, I'll tell you why meeple won't be able to have zona's scummer blanket taken off his eyes... because he is a terrible player.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 18 2010 03:00 GMT
#322
On April 18 2010 11:57 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2010 11:51 Bill Murray wrote:
and what do you all about us doing a collective roleclaim? it puts a lot of pressure on reds like in that game where all of the reds claimed green roles when there werent any.

I think I'm losing confidence in your plan by the minute.


Go read my original post. I'll quote it for you.
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