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The one right now that drew my attention the most would be RoL, spamming stuff and "starting drama" as he said. Also, as someone (Flamewheel?) pointed out, comparing people's behavior with past games is a good part of what we should do; is this game KF91's first on TL? | ||
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On March 31 2010 13:22 Vivi57 wrote: Right now, I'm seeing cynan as our best target. He basically says the day1 lynch will suck because of lack of information. Perfect way for scum to hide and makes a good excuse for not contributing. Then he says the rol drawing attention is the thing that he noticed most. Odd that trying to create discussion and drawing attention to himself, both very pro town reads, is the thing he noticed most. The states a very obvious fact that we should compare behavior to previous games. This looks super characteristic of the "I'm mafia pretending to contribute" gameplan. Very nice phrasing of what I said to make me look bad. I'm probably quite far from the best mafia players but I don't think I would be that bad if I were red. I still argue that spamming stuff and randomly voting isn't that much pro-town but that's maybe just not the way I see things. On March 31 2010 13:58 flamewheel91 wrote: Any findings, CynanMachae? I believe that KF91 played in Mafia 2 (and was mafia), if my search is correct. However, he seems to be acting a bit "new" to the scene. If you don't report on this, I'll go through tomorrow and look for stuff, but as of now it's still very early on to be forming anything based off of that, especially since I've never even seen KF before this game. Noting to say much really, he played in mafia 1 and 3, was mad hatter with 1 post and then mafia with 4-5 posts that looked like one-liners random chat. So imo acting "new" isn't really an act here either. | ||
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I'm putting my vote out there on RoL because of what I said earlier. Hopefully I can be back before day ends in time to see if there's reasons to change. And BM, it says theres the possibility of having 1 roleblocker among the 2 mafias, so I dont think it's sure there is a roleblocker | ||
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On April 01 2010 04:05 flamewheel91 wrote: CynanMachae: I'd very much like to hear your expanded reason as to why you're voting RoL, especially since he hasn't been around to present much. Expanded reasons? Really, he hasn't showed up since spamming "hai guys" and voting Flamewheel to "start up drama", and then saying he need information hence he's posting, but just disappears. Aside from FlameWheel nobody else called him up on that. Also L, you "string" vote reasoning seems useful, but I'm not sure I understand how you can say that most likely teams are 2 strings apart. Why not 3 or 4? Seems to me you can only get some unlikely teams from that. Or maybe I didn't get something. | ||
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On April 01 2010 14:40 madnessman wrote: cynan: puts pressure on rol. calls L's "string" theory useful but doesn't understand it. Again, like Vivi did, you are missquoting what I said. I just said that it seemed usefulful but I needed clarifications on the "2 string apart" thing. So tell me, what's wrong there? On April 02 2010 04:51 Foolishness wrote: I think for tomorrow the people we need to focus the most on are RoL and CynanMachae. RoL did come to his defense after the accusations brought up by flamewheel and myself, but only after the voting ended (why didn't he defend himself earlier?). Even so, he claimed he's going to be active in the following day in his most recent big post, and that is something we need to hold him accountable for. If he doesn't hold true to his word he needs to go. CynanMachae posted a bit throughout the first day (real time day) but his activity has thus diminished. He has been the focus of a lot of accusations so far and if he doesn't step up he needs to go as well. I've been the focus on a lot of accusations? Vivi posted one time before disappearing, saying that I was fishy with a post putting out of context what I did, then BM has been randomly voting for me. And then there's you pushing my way but not really saying anything more that would be worthy of suspicion toward me. Yes, my activity diminished since yesterday, but that can be said of 6-7 / 9 of the players, and I've always had an erratic posting schedule during weekdays. So far I'm towardly shifting toward Vivi moreso than RoL, if RoL really start contributing from next day and Vivi keep being mostly useless, he's gonna be a better target. Aside from his accusation toward me, most of his posts have no content and he threw a random vote at L toward the L, just "distancing" himself from the voting between RoL and Flamewheel that was going on, without really contributing anything to convince people to vote for L or anything. | ||
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On April 02 2010 11:00 madnessman wrote: @cynan: i didnt mean my summary on you to be insulting or anything, nor am i saying that what you said is "wrong"... just merely stating that u thought L's string theory might have use, but wanted more of an explanation Hm for some reason I thought both quotes were from madnessman... So I think some of what I said didnt make sense lol | ||
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Vivi57 + Show Spoiler + Quite suspect imo. Maybe he's just playing badly. but so far he hasn't been pro-town at all, voicing random suspecion (the one toward me was a bit better, tho), but his constant agression toward L is just spammy and he hasn't either contributed anything toward other players. The thing is tho, that from past games I saw, he has shown to be doing that quite often. He seems only to show up when under scrutiny. RebirthOfLeGenD + Show Spoiler + I've already said how I was suspicious of RoL, and it still hasn't changed. He said he was be more active but so far his one post against Foolishness is pretty much his only contribution. He also said he suspected KF91 and BM, but didn't bring any reason to that even when saying he was gonna read again to find out why. I also really like KF91's analysis about him and Vivi, that so far both haven't really mentionned the other. Bill Murray + Show Spoiler + BM's play is really hard to analyze since he behavior is so erratic and it's been like that for all the game I've played with him so far (his psoting style did get better tho, now it's quite less spammy (but we did get back the old Bill Murray on this page when he got angry at madnessman)) That make me think that the less spammy BM could be some caution coming from being mafia (or told by his teamate) because in the past games it was one of the main reasons he was being voted off. How he reverted to that old posting style under aggression could very well be a sign that he was restraining himself before. Imo it's a bit suspicious but not as much as Vivi or RoL. KF91 + Show Spoiler + His last post was useful, and that's good to see some contribution from someone not really active because we don't want mafia hiding among them. I would hold against him his voting toward Flamewheel because it was pretty random after L's post (but then he's been saying it's due to the length of Flamewheel's posts). I can't say I would suspect him much but he should start posting more. I really have to leave soon so I'll do the last two quick but will try to have more analysis tomorrow. Foolishness + Show Spoiler + So far, it's maybe due to the fact that he's been pushing at me a lot, but most of his posts were filled with a lot of general thoughts and mostly saying that inactive people should post more and start to contribute while not putting a lot of information himself. He did make that huge post defending himself after RoL voted for him, tho. H'es not really high on my list but I would really need to read most of his posts again tomorrow to form a better analysis. madnessman + Show Spoiler + So far Imo he's been the one contributing the most lately (well, after flamewheel in day 1). Also, he really has been on L's case before L died, so I wouldn't think he would be doing that if mafia were about to kill him. That's useless suspicions thrown around and could come back against him. Hopefully I can post some more about the last two tommorow. | ||
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I would really like BM and Vivi to share their reasons more and also madnessman and Foolishness to be back posting on that. That fact that this town is so inactive really mean that the mafia can lead us easy with moves like that. I'm going to put my vote on vivi right now because I'd really like him to explain himself and he was my top suspect with RoL. ##Vote Vivi57## | ||
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##Vote Vivi57## | ||
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Vivi is mafia, that as simple as that. | ||
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And still I couldn't have done anything if I just got there earlier, you guys were all voting for KF91 anyway. Anyway, if someone dies tonight, town is pretty screwed up. No way we can outvote the mafia with a town that is just gonna follow up the suspicions mafia throw at them. | ||
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Because, as it is now, its 3 townies, 2 mafias. With a townie death, mafia is really close to winning so they really must try hard to get a townie lynched. If you look at it that way, they only need ONE vote from one of us (toward a townie) in order to avoid lynching and pretty much win the game (if I'm right, 2 mafia 2 town is a mafia win). So what do the mafia want? One vote. Best plan? Throw suspicions around, be first to vote to start bandwagons. That's what Vivi and BM did, throwing votes very early, hopeing to get at least one townie to follow them. Yes, I've been suspicious of Vivi since the beginning. I've also been the one to call Vivi on his bandwagonning of KF91 which he never bothered to answer. Anyway, I've been looking at the Vivi/Foolishness possibility, because so far Vivi has done a very good job of distancing himself from Foolishness, throwing accusations when it was safe to do so, voting for him, he could even get him lynched and then ride alone to victory, clearing his name up. While this is less of a possibility to me that the BM/Vivi combo, it's worth looking into, but anyway for this day I'm gonna vote Vivi again because he's in both of my possible mafia teams. Also, for those that are pointing to a me/madnessman mafia combo, just think seriously about it. Yes, from the beggining I've said that I didn't suspect madnessman and just now he said that he thought that I was town. That would be a pretty awesomely bad play to throw out everywhere how we don't suspect the other so that if one get lynched the other dies the next day. Much easier would be to just ignore each other like Vivi and BM have been doing. Anyway, I've been rambling randomly a bit and my thoughts arent as ordered as I wanted, so I'm gonna say now that I'm voting vivi. ##Vote Vivi57## Reasons? First, among the possibles mafia teams, he's on both the ones I suspect most (BM/Vivi, Vivi/Foolishness). Also, he's been pretty good at not attaching himself to any bandwagon, like voting for Foolishness alone last day and L on the first day. Also, when I showed up to be quick inactive today he was prertty quick to start bandwagonning me, probably hoping I wouldn't be very much active to defend myself. Now that I look at that again, Vivi/Foolishness really seems plausible. | ||
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Anyway, just for emphasis, ##Vote Vivi57## yea I know it's not needed but anyway | ||
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That leave either you or madnessman, Bill. You probably know if you're mafia or not, so you just need to make your mind on madnessman. | ||
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You are very quick to dismiss the Vivi/BM possibility. You say you and Vivi aren't mafia, but does that clear Vivi? I don't think so. You say you want me to post more and clear stuff, but the same can be said about Vivi who so far have been delivering far less. | ||
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On April 07 2010 06:52 madnessman wrote: At this point, only RoL has voted for Foolishness to be lynched, and is hard on Foolisheness' case, so I think we can pretty much assume that this post is directed towards RoL. After this post, we see that RoL changes his vote to KF91. Later, Vivi SWITCHES his vote, when it's obvious that Foolishness is NOT going to get lynched, since it's a) close to the deadline b) everyone else OTHER THAN foolishness has voted, and obviously he's not going to vote for himself?! What I find interesting is that when Vivi changes his vote from KF to Foolishness, he changes the vote count from KF:3, Vivi:2, to KF:2, Vivi:2. Why would ANY rational player put himself in that position, ESPECIALLY when Foolishness hasn't voted yet and could easily vote for Vivi? Obviously, he would have no reason to worry if he and Foolish are acting together and he knew that Foolishness would be voting for KF91. I really want to point this out again. Also, I would really like that you guys notice who's basing their accusations on mafia duos and not. So far, Vivi and Foolishness have both been voting for me but neither of them have been putting much thoughts into who would be my partner. Some mention that it could be madnessman, but not really any reasoning behind it. Meanwhile, madnessman, BM and myself habe been suggesting mafia duos and throwing our reasonings behind it. Reasoning with mafia duos give us a loooooot more information. | ||
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Thanks for hosting, Zona! And godamnit madnessman  | ||
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On April 09 2010 16:13 Bill Murray wrote: cynan thought vivi and i were mafia though 0/2 Vivi and Foolishness* | ||
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