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haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 21 2010 16:12 GMT
#8
lol reminds me of mafiascum game. I have interest in joining this game, but seeing as how I am newcomer to TL mafia thread and has already signed up for World at War one, you can choose to bump me out if there is no slot available for any veteran members.
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 23 2010 12:54 GMT
#34
On March 23 2010 16:45 nemY wrote:
just got back, haven't really read the thread; will try to read and post in the morning; goodnight


There is literally nothing to read over here anyway. Well, except Ace's RV on Vivi.
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 23 2010 16:57 GMT
#41
I'm a new player- somewhat surprised I made it in this game as well. (Especially how I waltzed in my first TL Mafia game - XX - like idiot near the exam time and was forced to lurk all the way.)
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 23 2010 18:03 GMT
#42
oh wait, it was XVI.
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 23 2010 20:49 GMT
#50
Lol am I the only one who likes to reserve the vote until the very last moment?
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 24 2010 14:25 GMT
#81
Okay, let me play Devil's Advocate here. It is true vivi57 has announced that he will hardly be present before the game, and the first post he had made sounds semi-decent. Yes, I know it's day 1 but we should always prioritize hitting on Mafia than bad players, especially in this format where lynch is our only option of killing them. Main argument seems to be that he is inactive; however, there are still many players here that have not yet posted any insightful posts at all (Abenson, myself etc.) He should not be treated more scummy than any of the others.

Another thing I note is shootout between Versatile and citi.zen. Maybe it is me, but I think citi.zen was unnecessarily demeaning in his accusation against Versatile. Line "This is slightly more ... barely" was completely unneeded, and ho the mud swinging begins. Currently I don't know what to make out of this since encouraging discussion is highly beneficial to the town, and he might have wanted to coax out more material to work with, but both parties are being too emotional (?) for mot liking, with what I suppose is Versatile's OMGUS vote. I'll be keeping my eye out for the both of them.
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 24 2010 18:42 GMT
#89
On March 25 2010 03:24 Fishball wrote:
Woops, just saw Versatile's post above mine.
My post meant no mockery Nemy. Just stating I didn't know all these acronyms being used as well.

Also, I guess the new trend now is to point a FoS on A, and vote for B


Because there would be no point if we vote for the person we FoS on, right?
It is commonly used to point out secondary suspects, snap some lazy players into attention, and fake-vote replacement when there are too little player left after all.
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 25 2010 15:07 GMT
#104
##Vote vivi57##
I'll see how Ace's arguments holds up.
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 25 2010 15:22 GMT
#106
Personally I don't have clear suspect yet, so I am just bandwagoning with the experienced player here before I get mod-killed.
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 25 2010 15:33 GMT
#110
On March 26 2010 00:28 citi.zen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2010 00:04 haster27 wrote:
On March 25 2010 23:37 L wrote:
1) If abenson confirms that he/opz are masons, killing one of them lets every person in the game roleclaim to opz via confirmation. This is big shit.


How can we role-claim to him without getting it also known by anyone else when PM is prohibited?

From the other game, but clearly that could be a problem here as well. No private PM weakens trust circles = trouble for town. Right?


But there are only one blue role in this game, so although we can't organize, as long as that player is capable we'll be fine- unlike the other game where I suppose are plethora of blue roles and nukes present. Less individuals more simplicity.

By the way Ace, speaking of that other game do you any idea who are the Mafia over there?
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 25 2010 22:20 GMT
#118
On March 26 2010 00:38 Ace wrote:
naw I don't (know) ^_^

haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 26 2010 00:40 GMT
#121
Is there any credit to Vivi57's role-claim, or am I just being a worrywart? Although... I suppose he outlived his usefulness at very moment he announced his role because he is going to be killed Night 1 even if we spare him.
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 26 2010 15:01 GMT
#157
Lol I think nobody is paying attention to this thread that much to have pulled off maneuver that tried to save vivi57. Either way, I thought it did not matter b/c he was going to get Mafia-killed right after anyway, and we did not have any secondary clear suspect to go against.
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 26 2010 15:24 GMT
#159
On March 27 2010 00:13 citi.zen wrote:
By the way, mafia KP is 1 in this game, right?

+ Show Spoiler +
I am going by this, unless I screwed up the counting:

- The earliest the mafia can win is night 3. The chance of this occurring randomly is approximately 24%.


Yes.
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 27 2010 02:12 GMT
#184
...What is this I don't even.
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 27 2010 17:17 GMT
#198
Okay. I'll take a neutral ground and try to find the weak point in all the recent posts.

I don't have much to write about Ace for now, but this is because Ace is not giving me enough big posts (after night 1) to work with -_-;;;

One thing I have to point out is that you have ignored one good statement out of RebirthOfLegend's post, being "I think killing a claimer either way is worth it. In this setup losing your medic or DT for a mafia is completely worth it" though I think RoL's reasoning is bit different from mine.

Okay, at this setup there are two Mafia and seven Townies. I this setup it is highly disadvantageous for Mafia to counter role-claim blue occupation because it becomes trade-off of one blue role for one Mafia- more I think about it, Mafia will not want to push themselves into situation which is likely to create situation of 1 Mafia vs 1 Blue - 5 Townie. I've been Mafia in E11 game where my partner was lynched day 1, so I know how hellish it is to win: 1) by yourself (no support), 2) when one correct lynch is the end of Mafia.

I just don't think Mafia would have thrown their two-person advantage that early, which is why I thought vivi's claim were valid. Also, I admit guilty to not switching votes because I wanted to hear about what other people thought about it. No other reason.

On March 27 2010 13:28 citi.zen wrote:
And no, even if my vote switch were on time, I still could not have saved Vivi by myself, since in the event of a tie the first person with 3 votes still gets lynched.


Yes, but it would have been one step closer to saving vivi. Since there are no PM communications I would think people wanting to save vivi would act individually hoping others would follow.

On March 27 2010 11:42 citi.zen wrote:
I'll say this: take my posts out and you have nothing going on in this thread. Make up your own mids what, if anything, that means about my alignment.


Um, because it is evidence Ace is using to incriminate you? Posts are always used to find scums, which is why Mafia lurking technique is so effective. I don't see your point here.

On March 27 2010 22:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Oh sorry guys, I am going to assume the confusion comes from the wifom part and why I think Ace is mafia and not my reasoning on Day 1 RC's.

I was a little tired ^_^

Show nested quote +
Since even you Ace disagree with the depth of a WIFOM argument I am going to have to say you are mafia.
I write this because Ace disagreed with the depth of a WIFOM argument where someone does something because they predict an action so they do something else. The posts above. Plus this scenario is unlikely.

Show nested quote +
We can say that Citizen argued with Versatile because he read her role perfectly then killed her so that he would be "suspicious" because of his arguing with her, which would be what Ace would do because he knows how the town would read it.

I meant from what the view would be from an outsider, in order for citizen to be mafia and being try to get us to lynch Ace instead he would have had to planned to fight with her from the beginning of Day 1 and then kill her during the night.

Since they were fighting and she ended up dead you could say he didn't like her so he killed her, but that would draw attention onto himself. But if Citizen KNEW we were going to think that way, then we wouldn't suspect him and would go for someone else.

I hope that is more clear T_T sorry.

Show nested quote +
It is much easier (and goes with what you believe) to say that Ace killed Versatile because he had a read on her as a DT. In this scenario fighting Citizen fighting with Versatile could of been coincidence (when Ace read her as DT) or he could of just been trying to frame Citizen.


Show nested quote +
Which would be Citizen mind fucking us. From day 1.

If my former scenario was the true when and Citizen IS mafia, then that is how it would appear to me.


My overall impression is that this proves how this vivi-versatile death situation can be interpreted in both ways; whether either of them are convincing enough to warrant a vote, I am not sure about.
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 27 2010 18:46 GMT
#200
On March 28 2010 03:44 Ace wrote:
so like, is anyone going to help save me or do I have to write out a long counter post? You guys do realize its LYNCH OR LOSE right? When I flip town due to TWO votes on me the game is over.

I got 2 quick votes and one from RoL who's barely posted and everyone else is pretty much inactive.


?

Currently
2 Mafia - 5 Townie
If fail:
2 Mafia - 3 Townie
Correct lynch (since either citizen or Ace is likely Mafia)
1 Mafia - 2 Townie, with one last lynch to go.

haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 27 2010 18:56 GMT
#203
I think day ends at 29th KST, so I feel like there is still enough time before voting- especially since I only have opinion from, like, three people?
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 27 2010 19:02 GMT
#205
Well in retrospect compare which seems more exciting:

common ordinary e11 mafia game
EPIC MASSIVE NUCLEAR INTERNATIONAL POLITICAL IDIOT-FILLED APOCALYPTIC SHITSTORM
[image loading]


It literally took me some effort to motivate myself into making that big post. By the way, why did you change rules when johnnyspazz was nuked? I thought you answered multiple anti-nukes were allowed when I sent you PM after johnnyspazz messed up.
haster27
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Taiwan809 Posts
March 27 2010 19:25 GMT
#212
On March 28 2010 04:22 Ace wrote:
no problem. Just that if certain information is lost with your death or they missed when you said it in the thread it should stay that way ^_^


lol I was almost tempted to quote it and post it back in WaW thread when I saw your post actually :p

Back to the topic, that's not much we can do if both Mafia is lurking because its going to be crapshoot between Mafia and inactive Townies. It'll just be useful to assume at least one of the active players is Mafia, and try to go from there.
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