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i'll let it be, though. have fun with your amazing setup that i am jealous of people being in! | ||
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I am going to withhold my vote until it becomes clear that there is a real reason for a lynch. I agree that there could be a policy lynch on Abenson for post-style, but that would probably be detrimental to myself as well as I am not the best poster on this forum. I am going to actively try to be helpful, and if anyone has any questions, feel free to direct them my way! thanks! | ||
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Assuming I have nukes, I will not use them first. I will use them in retaliation if at all. Assuming I don't have nukes, you all have nothing to worry about from me. | ||
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I am not saying I am perfect, but I can manage to balance school, this game, and two mafia games on mafiascum. ##Vote: Abenson I like you, but I do not like your inattentiveness or your lack of a willingness to help the town | ||
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On March 24 2010 03:14 Zona wrote: Current version of proposed plan 1. No one is to initiate a nuke. 2. Anyone who initiates a nuke should be revenge-nuked by TWO players with real nukes. To ensure only TWO revenge-nuke, those with real nukes need to refresh the thread, and see if two have already been launched. If not, shoot one. 3. If any of the revenge-nukes turn out to be fake, the faker needs to be lynched or nuked as well. 4. Do not launch fake nukes. This only serves to muddy the picture for the town and gives an opportunity for the target to get another nuke in the air. 5. Anti-nukes should be used at their owner's discretion. However, save some for the late game, so that at that stage, the mafia can't simply nuke a large proportion of the remaining town members and win. 6. If the town COLLECTIVELY (not by some individual thought) feels that they're probably close to losing, start using nukes as daytime vigilante hits. I support 1, 3, and 4 from this. I would support 2 if it wasn't two nukes. I feel like wasting multiple nukes as such could potentially end the game for all parties. | ||
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All you did here was confuse me. I remember a "confirmed townie" being referenced, as tree.hugger made a crack about it being me, but I do not see HOW someone can be confirmed this early. Seems impossible to me. | ||
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and he may not ever, as he barely posts. | ||
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On March 25 2010 06:58 Nikon wrote: I don't think that they're lovers, we haven't had a night phase yet. it's another name for the sibling role...... | ||
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On March 25 2010 07:27 Zona wrote: I am suggesting RebirthOfLegend, since he is the next best lurker. However, with less than 6 hours to go, I do think it will have to be Abenson (or L), which is against my wishes. How about this - if you are online, reading, and willing to change your vote, post! Quote this post and reply if you must. We need to consider if we have enough town members to change who the majority will be, or else we have to settle for Abenson or L. here for a short while, willing to change if necessary, as it has been proven a random lynch is more pro town than a no lynch. | ||
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I should be able to be back before midnight very easily ##Vote: RebirthofLegend as I want someone to be lynched. | ||
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Also, I'm at my GFs house on her laptop. Her internet is not the best. I will use an anti-nuke to protect Caller if 10-12+ are in agreement that I should. I would like to protect him, but I don't want to appear red. If I was a smaller nation, I would wish a nation would protect me. Caller, can you protect yourself? If not, I will help you. | ||
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SO that's For: 1 Against: 1 So far. Get to the polls and vote for an anti-nuke | ||
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On March 25 2010 11:33 XeliN wrote: ##Vote Abstain Removing my vote on RoL, whilst I agree that it is not good to go the first day without lynching someone, the sheer fact that not one person has attempted to argue against voting for RoL and the overwhelming pressure to vote for him makes it very unlikely to me that he's mafia. You just argued against his lynch... If he's red, and you're not, then way to go, buddy. I'm back at my house. I will be gradually checking this to see what the plans are. Now that Caller has stated that he has no anti-nuclear-devices, where does that leave us? It would be nice to know who has Nukes and who has Anti-Nukes, are we allowed to share that information? It would benefit the town. If not allowed to do it, at least use this: Guaranteed countries with nukes: The Big Five: 1. Usa, 2. Russia, 3. France, 4. UK, 5. China The Nuclear Riff-Raff: (those not signing the NTBT or Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty) 6. India 7. Pakistan 8. North Korea Undeclared Nuclear Power 9. Israel I am not sure if there will only be 9 with nukes, but that is my assumption. It could include a nation like Iran. | ||
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On March 25 2010 11:44 flamewheel91 wrote: NUKES ARE GOOD GO YOU WHO USE NUKE YEAH. Okay so like yeah back to multi. This game is funny. Also: Phrujbaz leaves game, 18 pages of posts. Come back 10 hours later with BM joining game, 27 pages of posts! (Just kidding Bill, my first thought when seeing the page number was "oops hi Bill" and then it wasn't.) + Show Spoiler + ##Nuke Ace Flamewheel-> LOL I know. I would PM this reply, as it's not very helpful to the town to see a quote and a one liner, but I'll spoiler it to make it take less space. | ||
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That makes it 14 nations I believe. Plus, Ace will probably throw some nukes to other nations or take some away from these. I'd say that about half of the people have nukes if you look at real world. I know he said it isn't exactly real world, but I'm imagining he's going to give the big 5 nukes for sure, and a lot of the other ones as well... he's probably using the exact real world, and just telling us he might not be | ||
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On March 25 2010 12:53 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: I didn't play last game. In rare cases do you lynch on stupidity (unless you believe its a mafia feint tactic) They lynched me because I changed the outcome of two votes. within like 3 minutes of the vote ending once, and like a minute late but it was counted once. | ||
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Mod, could you prod meeple? | ||
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On March 25 2010 13:48 Zona wrote: Hey, if you're a medic, please read this: When I started proposing plans and posting, I had hoped that there would be other players who would participate as much as or even more than I have. But for better or worse, I have by far the most posts in the thread. Allow me to flatter myself and claim that at least some of my posts have been useful and beneficial to the town, such as being the first to lay out the importance of not initiating nukes. Usually I look down upon those who publicly ask for medic protection, as I think the ego of such players cause them to overestimate their contributions and importance to the town, but in this game I do think I stand out as a target for the mafia to kill at night, if only to significantly reduce the amount of discussion that takes place in the game. Please consider me as a protection target if you have not already done so. But of course, the final decision is in your hands. 'Please Vote me MVP' | ||
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If you can honestly tell me your nuke was fake, I would consider taking my vote off of you. | ||
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On March 26 2010 03:22 ~OpZ~ wrote: Watch Caller be like DT or med or something...Lol yeah he's either dt or med or he's bloody red.... that or he wants to appear influential so we save him | ||
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On March 26 2010 03:05 Versatile wrote: okay well, i was kind of hoping we could get enough people to switch their votes to someone else so that we could lynch someone who is more suspicious. i don't think that's going to happen, so i'll switch my vote so that we at least get a lynch, and i do believe in sticking with the town protocol of lynching non-town consensus nukers, even though i do not believe RoL is mafia. plus, he's asking to be lynched. i don't see why any pro-town member wouldn't vote with him at this point. ##vote: RoL I disliked your encouraging of people to come off of voting for RoL, and now you vote for him? also, no I did not imply I have a special role with having anti-nukes, I am actually not one of the larger nuclear powers. | ||
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On March 26 2010 04:02 Versatile wrote: if you keep typing @ me, i'll encourage your lynching, sir spam-a-lot. I couldn't care less. You've been flip flopping so hard in the past couple pages if it wouldn't be anti-town I'd nuke the shit out of you. | ||
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The last time that Nikon posted was before the nuke was even launched. What if we actually needed him to do something? Zona had said that those who voted for RoL (which Nikon did pre-nuke launch) needed to be around the thread in case we decided to shift our votes to someone else in case of a) the vote didnt get traction b) RoL decided to become active Well, A) was nothing to worry about. The vote was going through easily. B) happened in the wrong way, and we're here where we are today. The thing that irks me about Nikon is that Zona SPECIFICALLY said in a big wall of red text "if you are going to vote for RoL, be sure you can be back before midnight if you need to change your vote" Here, I'll give you a direct quote: On March 25 2010 07:40 Zona wrote: Anyone voting for RebirthOfLegend with us needs to be ready to switch back to another candidate if this choice doesn't gain traction, so we can obtain a majority vote to avoid a no lynch for day 1! If it's possible, try to spare some time to check back later today, before 12AM EST! On March 25 2010 07:37 Nikon wrote: Even tho Abenson hasn't replied, and it doesn't look like he will, the roleclaim seems legit. If by any chance he comes around tomorrow and says that he's not mason, it gives us an easy direction for a lynch. So... ##Vote: RebirthOfLegend 3 minutes apart. Sure, he may not have seen it, but if that's the case since he hasn't posted anything in about 22 fuckin hours, it warrants his lynching even more validity and viability. When he does post, he doesn't even really post a lot. I wouldn't mind his style if he would actually push to help the town with many posts that are a few sentences, but he has given us around 4 posts that are one to three lines of sucking up and agreeing with people who are designing policies. I wouldn't be surprised, with his lack of contribution, if he just refreshed the thread to a recent page and hopped on a voting bandwagon. The town does not need people like this alive. The fact that he's from bulgaria is just icing on the cake for me. If he responds to this, great. It's always good to have discussion of who to lynch. It's amazing to see people squirm over not dying, much like I did last game under the pressure of L after I did those last minute vote changes. Nikon's case is different, though. I don't want someone who we may need to have on our side later sitting AFK getting a muffin while his ghost doesn't cloak and nuke. If he gets defended like RoL has been, and flips red, we can shift our focus onto those who defended him or who pushed a swing in the other direction away from his lynch. | ||
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"First of all, you're criticism of my faulty logic is certainly correct, " Catching up on the thread, on page 41. | ||
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On March 26 2010 13:59 L wrote: That doesn't change the fact that attempting to kill someone off zero evidence and purely because of your feelings from prior games is a douchebag move. But yeah, keep scapegoating. Totally pro-town move. No offense, but how is this any different than what you did to me for ten days? | ||
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Tree.Hugger: That was not the best course of action that you could have pursued. Just because L was putting FoS on you, you didn't have to crack under the pressure. I understand that many people would be mod-killed for what he said to you, but that doesn't warrant you ruining the game for the rest of the world here! I would like to live, while having the green earth prevail; however, I care more about the world winning than myself. My nation doesn't have any special abilities, but I could counter-nuke someone if you all would want me to. WHAT I PROPOSE: Lynch Abenson solely to give the town someone to build a circle around with ~OpZ~. I find it highly unlikely that masons would be on different sides given the format that we are using. | ||
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On March 27 2010 01:19 haster27 wrote: I, and I think the Town as well, just find you more suspicious than L. Also, what am I supposed to do with that nuke? As long as we don't at least show effort to shoot down the nukes of non-concensus nukers, there will always be people suddenly coming out of woodwork to singlehandedly launch nuke against someone he is highly convinced of being Mafia. There will be always someone fully convinced about validity of his suspect list, and unless we as a Town set our feet down and say "unless you discuss your nuke never gonna matter lolol" unwanted nukes are going to keep on coming. speak for yourself I find them equally not suspicious at all, and have labeled them both argumentative townies | ||
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Also, I'm waiting on L.M.N.O.P. to come out with a huge wall of text. | ||
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I personally want to save them both, regardless of their color, as I want to save the ToD. I know the argument is "well, it's only a couple nukes (the first few that could hit of the game)", but we can't continue to think this way. | ||
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on a serious note, you really have been epically-lurking and badgering people, while supporting very anti-town and splitting ideas and concepts. you're saying that if someone anti-nukes someone else, that you're just going to nuke again to raise the ToD? Even if that's not your goal, that is what will happen. The town would do well to keep everyone alive, as I guarantee that we have a lot more members than the mafia does within our ranks. If everyone survives, we can begin to see vote-trains, ties, who defends who, etc. that will point to mafia. It is not advantageous to play the way you are playing right now, and I would advise you to either change it, or shut up. | ||
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On March 27 2010 05:35 tree.hugger wrote: Well, yes that's exactly what I'm arguing. I mean, the nuke's in the air, no point in second guessing the past, eh? At least you actually understood something I said for once. (But I thought you were going to ignore me?) I've tried to provide a reason. If L is mafia, then we should let the mafia save him. We should not waste town anti-nukes on people who are not confirmed townies. But even more so, Bill, what the hell were you thinking with that? I've only said it like 10 times, you really must not read the thread, and this makes me question your nuking even more. You've made a huge mistake to claim your possession of anti-nukes, BM. There was nothing suggesting you would be killed in the night, until now. Which means that if you aren't killed tonight, I'll be damn suspicious of you. And at that, to be honest, I really don't see an out for you. You've essentially requested to be killed in the night, and the choice is whether or not you feel like using your powers. I believe that we let the nuke fall on L, and see what color he is, and whether or not anyone stages an intervention on his behalf. But in claiming to posses anti-nukes, you've essentially destroyed the possibility of the town using them later in the game for our own benefits. That's like roleclaiming to be the last medic in the game. That's the most unproductive thing ANYONE has done this game. Goddammit. | ||
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he is playing the exact same way he did last game, and if he is red, hurray, if he is not, whatever im going to save him if you all don't like it, or want to lynch me, go ahead. i'll withhold my nukes if i'm lynched | ||
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i am vanilla green for the most part. | ||
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L and LMNOP to me are both very pro-town this game. L has his own personal way of helping the town when he is green/blue, which is to put heavy FoS onto one person. That's all hes been doing this game. He has been going after tree.hugger much the same way that he went after me when I made two stupid crucial voteswings that looked like they resulted in both an innocent death, and a botched election. In my defense, I wasn't sure if he was red last game, as I wasn't all that familiar with his style when hes pro-town because the only game I had played with him previously to that one he was red. I do not really have a read on many other people, and I don't know if I even really trust LMNOP as much as I trust L. I could be wrong, I've been wrong in the past. I've posted a list of 5 names where only 1/5 were correct (Malongo), but many reputable players have made a similar mistake (showtime, for instance). I'm not saying I'm perfect, but given my read of L being pro-town, and the fact that I could die before getting to use that in the night-period as I mistakenly and stupidly let my possession of my weaponry be known to everyone. Should I sit back and let a fellow town-member die? No. Would I if it was someone who was not contributing to the thread? Sure. That being said, it is obvious that I feel like L is contributing his heart and soul to catching whoever is conspiring behind the scenes. He has put more FoS this game than some of you have put throughout your entire mafia careers. If you really feel like he is red because of my anti-nuking for him, lynch me, and offer your own head when I don't flip red, because I won't. "He who saves one life saves the world entire" I have saved and preserved the world as it is, and this was my goal. I have done my part to guarantee that the ToD will not have risen from the improper actions that have taken place. You all should consider trying to stop nuking so we can save the world. | ||
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don't say I didn't warn you. | ||
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On March 28 2010 04:44 Iaaan wrote: I am happy that elemenope has been saved, since his nuke was probably launched by mafia. I want all the nukes in the air to fall, none of the players being nuked are confirmed townies. Assuming that the town is stupid, and that the mafia are saving their nukes, it makes sense that we should save our anti nukes for when it is more likely mafia nukes that have been launched, otherwise the mafia will have a huge amount of KP. I think it is suspicious that Bill Murray and L are supporting each other after what has happened in the past. I think they could easily be mafia defending each other/using chainsaw defense with nukes/antinukes. I don't see any solid reason that people (haster, sup) are defending them, other than that they feel they are town. Let me die. I'm green. That will put to rest your suspicions. If you want to save me, though, that'd be cool too. | ||
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can we go with his list? he was right last game. | ||
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On March 28 2010 05:22 Versatile wrote: to the bolded: are you high on drugs? L is a fcukin' cancer to the town. he makes very little sense and for some reason i cannot comprehend, you seem to think he's good @ this game. smh. many players keep saying "people are voting for L because they don't like his behavior or the way he communicates". well, clearly that doesn't apply to me, as i am an asshole to pretty much everyone. so i don't care if he's nice. hell, sometimes he's funny. i just think he's a moron most of the time. if you can't understand, whatever. we'll have to agree to disagree, i don't think either one of us are going to change our minds. No, you are the obvious cancer to the town. You, tree.hugger, and whoever else are trying to get rid of people who are obvtown. The fact that the rest of the thread haven't cracked down on you shows me that they either have no nukes, have no balls, or haven't read the thread. | ||
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On March 28 2010 05:35 Versatile wrote: when are you going to get L's dick out of your mouth? you're pathetic. get away from me. please. seriously. stop posting towards me. how about you attack my arguments instead of attacking me? oh wait, too late in two senses. moron. | ||
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On March 28 2010 07:55 Iaaan wrote: and I would be fine saving BM, then lynching him or tree.hugger based on L's color, if L is green then BM is green, because why would a red save a green? and if L is red then tree.hugger is green because why would mafia nuke mafia? very good plan. i am green, though, so i'll tell you and you can save us some time how about you anti-nuke me then we can lynch tree.hugger for starting all of this shit. | ||
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I can't do it myself, as I've used the only one I have. | ||
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"I am so hip, even my errors are correct" X_X Hope you win town. | ||
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had to post to give props on that joke | ||
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now everything makes sense | ||
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