EPTOn April 11 2010 15:38 Elemenope wrote:
I had asked Flamewheel what his definition of majority was, and he said if we had 3-3, then we would win. I had waited until Caller was online before sending in our night actions anyway to ensure that we had 2-3 regardless. And since no anti-nukes were used previously, I was sure both were going to hit unless some townie decided that saving nemy would be an awful idea.
aka
You're dumb, 6 bottle more on Tiny fgt.
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On April 11 2010 14:04 JeeJee wrote:
tbh, there was no way you would have lynched any mafia that day. if lmnop/caller were actually in danger of getting lynched, we were gonna have d3 play the "lol im too busy but lets make it fun ##nuke:opz" card, drawing out an anti-nuke if there is one, and have caller/lmnop throw down real nukes after cuz we needed 2 to land for victory.
i guess if we had done that during day4 we would've had that flawless which i oh so wanted, but decided to go with nolynch and do the nuke plan after as then we would only need 1 of the nukes to hit, so less risk in that sense. of course i ended up dying so both would've had to land anyway.... oh well
come to think of it, did u guys even consider this when launching the nukes? were u so certain both were gonna land due to some new info or were you under the impression that we still needed only one? i was sleeping so i wasn't part of the decision making process there
i mean i think flamewheel wasnt aware as he said it's gonna be gg as soon as one of the nukes lands which wasn't true actually, needed both. but yeah, fill me in?
durr nvm im stupid
ignore the above
On April 11 2010 13:38 ~OpZ~ wrote:
No....Iaaan afk'd our way to loss...Even switching to LMNOP we coulda won if Iaaan was on and trusting me
-_-
On April 11 2010 06:36 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Well basically Opz was on the right track (finally) and Abenson would listen to him. Haster of course knew that he had to get mafia to win, so he was playing for the town that day. iaaan afk'd and didnt do anything, and citizen decided to be dramatic and vote for himself in a rage until he got his shit together and tried to defend himself.
i think the town could have lynched caller, until they tried to switch to Elemenope at the last second and basically not enough people were there.
On April 11 2010 06:27 L wrote:
Not really. That was stupid in its own right, but the last day alone was absolutely ridiculous. The entire mafia team was caught and townies basically went:
" Ok lol, we won't kill any of you :3 :3 :3 "
On April 11 2010 05:45 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
I think the distraction provided by XeliN / Nikon really helped him get away with it.
edit: i'm also surprised at the number of nukes the mafia had
On April 11 2010 05:05 L wrote:
On April 11 2010 03:08 Ver wrote:
I loved Caller's strategy. Hosting his games must've paid off.
Caller's Recipe for Success. What to do if you get caught red-handed:
1) Post immediately out of nowhere after being accused despite having lurked the entire game.
2) Make up a bunch of random and far-fetched claims to mislead them. A cop here, random nation there, weird sanity here, convenient dead person check there...hmm that's not good enough.
3) Add even more bizarre claims to confuse them so much they just ignore you. What's missing? Invent a role! How about a Bus driver switch? Follow it up by sidetracking everyone into debates about how this role that doesn't exist works so they forget about the real issue.
4) When people finally stop getting sidetracked and come back to accusing you, spice it up more! Reveal you are actually an even more suspicious country, supply some random filler, and 'rolecheck' your accusers.
5) Now sidetrack everything onto a long debate about how the accuser's role works according to other rules to make everyone confused and waste time. Accuse said person that they don't understand their role. Mayhem ensues and town misses the lynch.
This should not have worked, but people are terrible. I loved Caller's strategy. Hosting his games must've paid off.
Caller's Recipe for Success. What to do if you get caught red-handed:
1) Post immediately out of nowhere after being accused despite having lurked the entire game.
2) Make up a bunch of random and far-fetched claims to mislead them. A cop here, random nation there, weird sanity here, convenient dead person check there...hmm that's not good enough.
3) Add even more bizarre claims to confuse them so much they just ignore you. What's missing? Invent a role! How about a Bus driver switch? Follow it up by sidetracking everyone into debates about how this role that doesn't exist works so they forget about the real issue.
4) When people finally stop getting sidetracked and come back to accusing you, spice it up more! Reveal you are actually an even more suspicious country, supply some random filler, and 'rolecheck' your accusers.
5) Now sidetrack everything onto a long debate about how the accuser's role works according to other rules to make everyone confused and waste time. Accuse said person that they don't understand their role. Mayhem ensues and town misses the lynch.
I think the distraction provided by XeliN / Nikon really helped him get away with it.
edit: i'm also surprised at the number of nukes the mafia had
Not really. That was stupid in its own right, but the last day alone was absolutely ridiculous. The entire mafia team was caught and townies basically went:
" Ok lol, we won't kill any of you :3 :3 :3 "
Well basically Opz was on the right track (finally) and Abenson would listen to him. Haster of course knew that he had to get mafia to win, so he was playing for the town that day. iaaan afk'd and didnt do anything, and citizen decided to be dramatic and vote for himself in a rage until he got his shit together and tried to defend himself.
i think the town could have lynched caller, until they tried to switch to Elemenope at the last second and basically not enough people were there.
No....Iaaan afk'd our way to loss...Even switching to LMNOP we coulda won if Iaaan was on and trusting me
-_-
tbh, there was no way you would have lynched any mafia that day. if lmnop/caller were actually in danger of getting lynched, we were gonna have d3 play the "lol im too busy but lets make it fun ##nuke:opz" card, drawing out an anti-nuke if there is one, and have caller/lmnop throw down real nukes after cuz we needed 2 to land for victory.
i guess if we had done that during day4 we would've had that flawless which i oh so wanted, but decided to go with nolynch and do the nuke plan after as then we would only need 1 of the nukes to hit, so less risk in that sense. of course i ended up dying so both would've had to land anyway.... oh well
come to think of it, did u guys even consider this when launching the nukes? were u so certain both were gonna land due to some new info or were you under the impression that we still needed only one? i was sleeping so i wasn't part of the decision making process there
i mean i think flamewheel wasnt aware as he said it's gonna be gg as soon as one of the nukes lands which wasn't true actually, needed both. but yeah, fill me in?
durr nvm im stupid
ignore the above
I had asked Flamewheel what his definition of majority was, and he said if we had 3-3, then we would win. I had waited until Caller was online before sending in our night actions anyway to ensure that we had 2-3 regardless. And since no anti-nukes were used previously, I was sure both were going to hit unless some townie decided that saving nemy would be an awful idea.
aka
You're dumb, 6 bottle more on Tiny fgt.
if you were so sure both were gonna hit why didnt u agree to do this on day4 u fagling
you just wanted me to die didn't you?
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On April 11 2010 13:58 L wrote:
He gets leaked lists of all the roles, for starters.
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On April 11 2010 12:25 JeeJee wrote:
stfu
no
it was only 2 bottles
also after this game i have no idea how to do post analysis for mafia anymore
at least for the first 2 days i was just posting whatever pro-town shit i would post normally just a bit more active cos i had a role. it doesnt really affect mafia unless a mafia's a target of popular opinion which given the odds they probably aren't. so i have no friggin' clue how people like mbh are so damn good at it.
On April 11 2010 12:14 Elemenope wrote:
If the bus claim wasn't thrown in, admit it: we would've lost. Just admit it right here 6 bottle shinbichan.
On April 11 2010 12:01 JeeJee wrote:
also
epic quotes (filler text usually cut out)
**initial plans**
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[22 Mar 10 22:25] * ace * all im saying is
[22 Mar 10 22:25] * ace * look at the power of your roles
[22 Mar 10 22:26] * elemenope * what, we have nukes
[22 Mar 10 22:26] * elemenope * that's all we need
[22 Mar 10 22:26] * ace * and how hard it is for you to just straight out get raped by nukes
[22 Mar 10 22:26] * shinbi * ace i think ur problem is
[22 Mar 10 22:26] * caller * wtf i wanna nuke L
[22 Mar 10 22:26] * shinbi * u think we're good at mafia
[22 Mar 10 22:26] * shinbi * but we just wanna nuke shit
[22 Mar 10 22:26] * caller * i agree
[22 Mar 10 22:26] * ace * I know
**discussing night kills and random roletalk -- night 1**
oh and meeple snipe reasoning is in here. at least my take on it, lmnop had a different reason iirc
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[14:32] elemenope: anyway, what I'm thinking of is prot-me, kill-meeple, rb-whoever
[14:32] shinbi: no
[14:32] shinbi: we have a problem
[14:32] elemenope: what
[14:32] shinbi: or rather
[14:32] shinbi: an issue worth discussing
[14:32] shinbi: i talked to ace-- it matters WHO sends in the kill
[14:32] shinbi: becaus that person is doing hte killing
[14:33] shinbi: this leads me to believe there is like a triggerhappy or a tracker role in the game
[14:33] elemenope: so we'll have caller do it
[14:33] elemenope: easy pz
[14:33] shinbi: tbh i think meeple is DT, but if he's not
[14:33] shinbi: why not have you do it?
[14:33] shinbi: if you hit a triggerhappy, you have medic prot
[14:33] elemenope: wouldn't that bypass medic prot?
[14:34] shinbi: i dunno
[14:34] shinbi: i don think it should
[14:34] shinbi: otoh if it uses up a medic prot and like SK hits u then u'll still die
[14:34] shinbi: so maybe we're just better off using caller
[14:34] elemenope: yeah
[14:34] elemenope: we'll just have caller do it
[14:35] shinbi: ok
[14:35] shinbi: btw the reason i think meeple is dt is cos
[14:35] shinbi: before L died he had like 35 posts
[14:35] shinbi: after L died he had like 2
[14:35] shinbi: maybe he's thinking " o shit no more medix for me"
[14:35] shinbi:
[14:35] elemenope: yeah
**during discussing of the insane-dt-bussed-onto-dead-guy plans**
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[31 Mar 10 21:53] * caller * i should totally claim tracker
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * caller * and claim i tracked fishball
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * caller * and saw him hit meeple
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * shinbi * SO MAFIA HAS A ROLEBLOCKER AND A BUS?
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * ace * lmao
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * shinbi * i find that hard to believe
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * shinbi * that's fucking imba as fuck
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * elemenope * FUCK WHAT YOU FIND HARD TO BELIEVE
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * elemenope * THIS IS WORLD AT WAR
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * ace * somehow
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * ace * I see this ending very badly
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * caller * so what did i do
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * shinbi * go claim you got bussed
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * shinbi * from nikon
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * shinbi * to meeple
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * caller * as a dt
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * shinbi * yes
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * elemenope * Yes
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * caller * and on top of that im paranoid/insane
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * shinbi * as a, you've found out, insane dt
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * caller * lol ok
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * caller * this seems highly implausible
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * caller * and is going to get me killed
[31 Mar 10 21:57] * d3_crescentia * yes.
[31 Mar 10 21:57] * caller * but i like it
[31 Mar 10 21:58] * shinbi * for the record, i think the bus claim is fucking stupid as fuck-all. and is going to get caller killed
after the bus claim worked, it all kind of generated into random lulz and shit so i don't really have much to post aside from elemenope making fun of my bottles
oh and one final excerpt for flamewheel commenting on elemenope's wall of text posts.. this was our take
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[25 Mar 10 23:23] * shinbi * you realize i hope
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * shinbi * nobody reads them
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * shinbi * even i didn't
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * elemenope * yeah I know
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * elemenope * but when somebody says something
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * elemenope * I'm just like
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * elemenope * hey douche bag
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * elemenope * I addressed this here
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * elemenope * fucking read next time
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * shinbi * LOL
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * ace * lmao
again thanks for the game ace, was lulz ^^. based on M.A.D. from MS i guess?
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@haster oh right. cuz i knew my nuke didn't go through, i was just screwing with the town during pages 115-116. i forgot that kind of revealed that i'm mafia and should've requested prot.. oh well
also
epic quotes (filler text usually cut out)
**initial plans**
+ Show Spoiler +
[22 Mar 10 22:25] * ace * all im saying is
[22 Mar 10 22:25] * ace * look at the power of your roles
[22 Mar 10 22:26] * elemenope * what, we have nukes
[22 Mar 10 22:26] * elemenope * that's all we need
[22 Mar 10 22:26] * ace * and how hard it is for you to just straight out get raped by nukes
[22 Mar 10 22:26] * shinbi * ace i think ur problem is
[22 Mar 10 22:26] * caller * wtf i wanna nuke L
[22 Mar 10 22:26] * shinbi * u think we're good at mafia
[22 Mar 10 22:26] * shinbi * but we just wanna nuke shit
[22 Mar 10 22:26] * caller * i agree
[22 Mar 10 22:26] * ace * I know
**discussing night kills and random roletalk -- night 1**
oh and meeple snipe reasoning is in here. at least my take on it, lmnop had a different reason iirc
+ Show Spoiler +
[14:32] elemenope: anyway, what I'm thinking of is prot-me, kill-meeple, rb-whoever
[14:32] shinbi: no
[14:32] shinbi: we have a problem
[14:32] elemenope: what
[14:32] shinbi: or rather
[14:32] shinbi: an issue worth discussing
[14:32] shinbi: i talked to ace-- it matters WHO sends in the kill
[14:32] shinbi: becaus that person is doing hte killing
[14:33] shinbi: this leads me to believe there is like a triggerhappy or a tracker role in the game
[14:33] elemenope: so we'll have caller do it
[14:33] elemenope: easy pz
[14:33] shinbi: tbh i think meeple is DT, but if he's not
[14:33] shinbi: why not have you do it?
[14:33] shinbi: if you hit a triggerhappy, you have medic prot
[14:33] elemenope: wouldn't that bypass medic prot?
[14:34] shinbi: i dunno
[14:34] shinbi: i don think it should
[14:34] shinbi: otoh if it uses up a medic prot and like SK hits u then u'll still die
[14:34] shinbi: so maybe we're just better off using caller
[14:34] elemenope: yeah
[14:34] elemenope: we'll just have caller do it
[14:35] shinbi: ok
[14:35] shinbi: btw the reason i think meeple is dt is cos
[14:35] shinbi: before L died he had like 35 posts
[14:35] shinbi: after L died he had like 2
[14:35] shinbi: maybe he's thinking " o shit no more medix for me"
[14:35] shinbi:
[14:35] elemenope: yeah
**during discussing of the insane-dt-bussed-onto-dead-guy plans**
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[31 Mar 10 21:53] * caller * i should totally claim tracker
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * caller * and claim i tracked fishball
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * caller * and saw him hit meeple
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * shinbi * SO MAFIA HAS A ROLEBLOCKER AND A BUS?
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * ace * lmao
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * shinbi * i find that hard to believe
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * shinbi * that's fucking imba as fuck
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * elemenope * FUCK WHAT YOU FIND HARD TO BELIEVE
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * elemenope * THIS IS WORLD AT WAR
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * ace * somehow
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * ace * I see this ending very badly
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * caller * so what did i do
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * shinbi * go claim you got bussed
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * shinbi * from nikon
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * shinbi * to meeple
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * caller * as a dt
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * shinbi * yes
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * elemenope * Yes
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * caller * and on top of that im paranoid/insane
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * shinbi * as a, you've found out, insane dt
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * caller * lol ok
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * caller * this seems highly implausible
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * caller * and is going to get me killed
[31 Mar 10 21:57] * d3_crescentia * yes.
[31 Mar 10 21:57] * caller * but i like it
[31 Mar 10 21:58] * shinbi * for the record, i think the bus claim is fucking stupid as fuck-all. and is going to get caller killed
after the bus claim worked, it all kind of generated into random lulz and shit so i don't really have much to post aside from elemenope making fun of my bottles
oh and one final excerpt for flamewheel commenting on elemenope's wall of text posts.. this was our take
+ Show Spoiler +
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * shinbi * you realize i hope
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * shinbi * nobody reads them
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * shinbi * even i didn't
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * elemenope * yeah I know
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * elemenope * but when somebody says something
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * elemenope * I'm just like
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * elemenope * hey douche bag
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * elemenope * I addressed this here
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * elemenope * fucking read next time
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * shinbi * LOL
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * ace * lmao
again thanks for the game ace, was lulz ^^. based on M.A.D. from MS i guess?
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@haster oh right. cuz i knew my nuke didn't go through, i was just screwing with the town during pages 115-116. i forgot that kind of revealed that i'm mafia and should've requested prot.. oh well
If the bus claim wasn't thrown in, admit it: we would've lost. Just admit it right here 6 bottle shinbichan.
stfu
no
it was only 2 bottles
also after this game i have no idea how to do post analysis for mafia anymore
at least for the first 2 days i was just posting whatever pro-town shit i would post normally just a bit more active cos i had a role. it doesnt really affect mafia unless a mafia's a target of popular opinion which given the odds they probably aren't. so i have no friggin' clue how people like mbh are so damn good at it.
He gets leaked lists of all the roles, for starters.
hmm? maybe you are referring to another game, maybe not, but the one i remember, i afk'd out like the townie everyone hates, and instead decided to spectate, knowing who the mafia were, so when mbh posted his "Furious Five" or whatever, getting 5/5 iirc, i was just rofling and shaking my head wondering how he did it..
it was a clue-based game and i remember scooter was one of the mafia if it helps narrow it down
apparently it was TLM5
seriously i'm re-reading TLM5 and i just don't get it. halp?
