World at War Mafia - Page 4

On April 03 2010 17:02 Elemenope wrote:


This is interesting, and from this, only one thing comes to mind - though I'd like to hear Nikon's take about Iaaan claiming veteran before coming to a decision.

On April 03 2010 20:27 Elemenope wrote:



You seem to be confused. I'm not interested about the fact that there are multiple people role claiming as 'Veteran'. What I'm more interested about is the fact that these same two roles have different abilities, yet you seem to be fine with this.

We have you who claimed to be hit during the night, yet you are wondering if Iaaan's claim of a free nuke block during the day is true or not, going so far as to launch a nuke at him. Yet Iaaan is also claiming to be a veteran with a free nuke block and a free night hit block, and you don't find this surprising even when he roleclaimed the same role as you?

You seem quite casual about this and I can only guess that due to the difference of abilities of the same claimed roles:
One or both of you are lying about your roleclaims.

On April 04 2010 01:15 Elemenope wrote:


What was the point in nuking him? Let's assume these things:
A) You are a veteran
B) Veteran ability entails a free night hit which is standard, but not as standard: a free nuke hit
C) Nobody mentions that they are immune to a single nuke hit until Iaaan mentions it

Given these three things, you still launch a nuke at Iaaan when only B is something Veterans could know. Iaaan could've guessed the ability, thinking it makes sense given that given that nukes are in the hands of 22 people, somebody ought to have nuke protection, even if it is a one-shot ability; however, the chance of this is very slim in my eyes, especially coupled with the fact that he says


in response to you role claiming Veteran. He clearly says that veterans also have a one-shot day nuke protection. Yet you go ahead and nuke him and choose to withhold your capabilities even while roleclaiming? You realize the problem with this, right?

On top of this, you claim that your missile is fake which accomplishes absolutely nothing in terms of confirming whether Iaaan is truly veteran or not as his ability, which you should know, blocks a nuke hit because, as Iaaan puts it which you are also implying by not denying the fact that veterans have a one-shot nuke protection, it gives an extra life against nukes which means an actual nuke has to hit.

Because of this, your only purpose in sending that nuke is to accomplish one of two things:
A) Burn up an antinuke which you did so well with your first nuke, or
B) Burn up a veteran's extra nuke protection

Both of which do not help the town at all.

So perhaps you could explain why you thought that someone stating he possesses an ability that hasn't been mentioned by anybody until then which somehow conveniently matches your ability would deserve a nuke in order to prove this ability? If he's not veteran: congratulations, you probably killed scum since he lied, but this means you also lied about your fake nuke on Zona. If he is veteran: you burned his day protection and you lied about your fake nuke on Zona. If your missile is a dud: you accomplished nothing at all in terms of extra information for the town and we have no confirmation of your first missile.

What was really going through your mind when you decided to nuke Iaaan?

On April 06 2010 05:44 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Well...Nikon...Tell us what your country is.

This would be useful....Your the only country who hasn't claimed yet.

Are YOU Japan?

On April 06 2010 11:46 haster27 wrote:
...Okay, time for calmness.

It is highly likely Nikon has reflect the nuke-back ability, and he is clearly Mafia for hiding this ability. Since we cannot remove him by nuke, this makes him a high possibility Mafia target. Also, does this move prove nemY as Town also since he is currently being targetted by highly likely Mafia nuke? At least, it is obvious we need to intercept it to keep Townie numbers high.

There are also another possibility; Mafia has someone with ability that can affect 'any' nukes in the air, and is using it to frame Nikon, but considering the situation I feel this is extremely unlikely.

Finally, what do we do with Caller - who is under fire due to Japan not roleclaiming - since nemY nuke turned out to be ineffective? Do we nuke him or keep him alive for the next day lynch?

On April 06 2010 12:04 haster27 wrote:
Is it me or those all Mafia seem to have some kind of special ability? There has been four already: Role Blocker, Bus Driver, Nuke-stealer, and Nuke-hacker. From this the fact there are at minimum 4 Mafia in the Town are confirmed. I can only hope that Ace did not underestimate how much stupid Town nukes there were going to be and put five Mafia in.

Finally I want to state that this development makes laaan in a slightly less flattering light. It feels too convenient that out of all Mafia nuke-hacker was the one that laaan's roleclaim contradicted. It could have been Mafia ploy to decrease Town's nuke/anti-nuke stockpile.

On April 11 2010 05:45 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:



I think the distraction provided by XeliN / Nikon really helped him get away with it.

edit: i'm also surprised at the number of nukes the mafia had

On April 16 2010 03:12 haster27 wrote:

I hate you so much. /~_~/
(Serial Killer who tried to hide his abilitiy- failed, Serial Killer who thought he had Mafia who lied about night actions- failed again.)