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On March 27 2010 07:19 L wrote:Nah, the points I disagree with I've already put counter arguments out against prior. I can fully understand townies falling on both sides of this issue. That said, if I do end up dying, take responsibility.
Okay@paragraph 1, maybe I was a bit rude, I really do enjoy playing with you, even when you do stupid things ;p
The way I see it happening is that tree.hugger will take the brunt of 'responsibility' directly, most other people will be ignored. But of course I won't deny that I supported your nuking.
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On March 27 2010 07:53 johnnyspazz wrote:
hrm so im a retard and didn't read my role carefully
do you guys mind if i save myself and L at the same time?
wat
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On March 27 2010 07:58 haster27 wrote:
Seriously, where is the unanimous mood the Town shared against nuke at early stages of the game? At then everyone agreed that non-concensus nuker was bad, and only matter up to debate was whether we should counter-nuke or lynch him. I simply cannot understand why people are suddenly changing their stances to say that nuking is fine as long as it is fired against "unconfirmed" Townie.
And nukes shouldn't be fired without discussion, but I have changed my opinion, we should account for them once they have been fired and use them to our advantage, not just save people and lynch idiots, if we can be reasonably certain that they are town.
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I agree with haster, third nuke is probably a mafia nuke, and it should be shot down.
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so, gogo bill murray or someone o:
And oh my god, will day 1 ever end?
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On March 27 2010 11:42 Bill Murray wrote:
LMNOP is hugely pro-town with his walls of text, but noone believes L is except me
he is playing the exact same way he did last game, and if he is red, hurray, if he is not, whatever
im going to save him
if you all don't like it, or want to lynch me, go ahead. i'll withhold my nukes if i'm lynched
I probably can't change your mind about saving L. I hope you at least save elementope, seeing as its an anonymous nuke, and we can't learn anything from it other than that the mafia probably want him dead.
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and how interesting to see L and BM working together, I do not have any evidence at this point, nor am I sure I am right, but I would like to point out that the two of them working together could indicate them both being mafia. Bill would have to post that it was him saving L in the thread, because if it was an anonymous save, I'm sure a lot of people would think it was logical that L was being saved by mafia.
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I am happy that elemenope has been saved, since his nuke was probably launched by mafia.
I want all the nukes in the air to fall, none of the players being nuked are confirmed townies. Assuming that the town is stupid, and that the mafia are saving their nukes, it makes sense that we should save our anti nukes for when it is more likely mafia nukes that have been launched, otherwise the mafia will have a huge amount of KP.
I think it is suspicious that Bill Murray and L are supporting each other after what has happened in the past. I think they could easily be mafia defending each other/using chainsaw defense with nukes/antinukes. I don't see any solid reason that people (haster, sup) are defending them, other than that they feel they are town.
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That was a really stupid nuke, and a really really stupid claim, Xelin.
and @ verse, I want you to die as well as L, no not completely on your side ^.^
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and I would be fine saving BM, then lynching him or tree.hugger based on L's color, if L is green then BM is green, because why would a red save a green? and if L is red then tree.hugger is green because why would mafia nuke mafia?
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I think I missed what the point of extending the day AGAIN was.....
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I want to point out that the mafia will have been sitting around laughing at us while we were screwing ourselves. There was no reason for them to post anything to screw up the town because we were doing it for them. So the people who haven't posted much in a reasonable amount of time I think should be called attention to:
2. d3_crescentia
3. JeeJee
7. Amber[LighT]
8. Caller
12. Zona
14. Fishball
16. meeple
18. Nikon
20. nemy
People who voted against L originally for no reason other than that he was banned are Fishball and d3. Versatile and tree.hugger also voted for L for no reason, and used nukes stupidly. These four people are who I think should be lynched. Verse will probably be hit with a nuke soon.
Verse and tree.hugger both nuked L, looking at it from a mafia's perspective, they would know that L is town, and a veteran/useful player; thus they would have motivation to nuke him past just being pissed off at him.
And I can see why people are suspicious of me, I haven't really been posting much rational behind my thoughts, but just my thoughts themselves. I've been busy/lazy, but like foolishness says, no one cares. But I acknowledge the accusations at least, and will try to respond to them, and point to people that I think are more suspicious than me.
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So, as a townie I should really be trying to get the town not to waste a lynch on me.
In this post, Verse points out d3 and fishball as suspects.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 29 2010 02:02 Versatile wrote:
i agree with waiting out the rest of the day and night. as i stated before, if we launch any nukes at mafia, i think they will just shoot them down. lynching is the only surefire way of getting a red out of the game.
i'll say it one more time: i am not going to fire again without town consent. i have no reason to at this point.
also, there have been plenty of people who the town has suspected. to decide how to lynch them, i say we rank them in order of most suspect. here is my list, make your own if you don't agree with it.
1. caller: was anonymously saved and has posted very little. little to no posting is a mafia tell for him.
2. iaaan: scummy posting style pointed out by several players.
3. tree.hugger/versatile/xelin: for non-consensus nuking.
suspicious: LMNOP for attacking opz and abenson after mason claim. the one thing i'd like to point out here is that L also advocated for killing one to prove the other if i am remembering correctly, and he was a towny. and i believe one other person did the same as well.
then there is zona's inactive list, L's vote list, and the list i posted.
L's vote list (as of page 21):
tree.hugger
Versatile
Abenson
Fishball
RebirthofLegend
~Opz~
d3_crescentia
zona's latest inactive list:
iNfuNdiBuLuM: 31
JeeJee: 30
Iaaan: 29
meeple: 28
Fishball: 26
Amber[LighT]: 26
Nikon: 18
d3_crescentia: 14
nemY: 13
Abenson: 12
Caller: 12
Phrujbaz: 2
Versatile's suspect list:
iaaan
caller
amberlight
nemy
d3_crescentia
xelin
nikon
fishball
i'd just like to point out that fishball and d3_crescentia are on all three of those lists. just something to note. not putting FoS on them, but the fact that they're on 3 different lists, all of which were formed with different criteria speaks to the need for both to give more to the town and a necessary increase in pro-town behavior. abenson, nikon, iaaan, amberlight, nemy and caller are on two of those lists each. abenson voted for L to save himself and told us he was going to be inactive so i believe it's safe to cross him off. nemy has been kind of inactive in both this game and zona's game, so that's something to take into consideration.
i also think it may be interesting to see how zona's inactive lists have changed over the course of the game. not saying we will definitely get something useful out of them, but we should be looking for patterns.
i welcome thoughts and opinions on this post.
I want to point out that I pointed them out as suspects several pages before:
+ Show Spoiler +On March 28 2010 15:00 Iaaan wrote:
I want to point out that the mafia will have been sitting around laughing at us while we were screwing ourselves. There was no reason for them to post anything to screw up the town because we were doing it for them. So the people who haven't posted much in a reasonable amount of time I think should be called attention to:
2. d3_crescentia
3. JeeJee
7. Amber[LighT]
8. Caller
12. Zona
14. Fishball
16. meeple
18. Nikon
20. nemy
People who voted against L originally for no reason other than that he was banned are Fishball and d3. Versatile and tree.hugger also voted for L for no reason, and used nukes stupidly. These four people are who I think should be lynched. Verse will probably be hit with a nuke soon.
Verse and tree.hugger both nuked L, looking at it from a mafia's perspective, they would know that L is town, and a veteran/useful player; thus they would have motivation to nuke him past just being pissed off at him.
And I can see why people are suspicious of me, I haven't really been posting much rational behind my thoughts, but just my thoughts themselves. I've been busy/lazy, but like foolishness says, no one cares. But I acknowledge the accusations at least, and will try to respond to them, and point to people that I think are more suspicious than me.
Thus if either of them are mafia, then it logically follows that I would not bring attention to them if I were also mafia.
Also, I'm less sure than I was before that people who use nukes should die; wouldn't mafia want to lay low and not risk getting too invovled? I think it is possible that people just dont like L and enjoy killing him with nukes.
And this post of Opz I like:
+ Show Spoiler +On March 28 2010 22:35 ~OpZ~ wrote:Omg...Lol...And then you point back at Caller? We seriously have bigger fish to fry...or turn into glass, whichever term you prefer. As likely as I believe Caller to be mafia, I'm personally advocating Iaaan, Xelin, and Tree.Hugger to be rape trained. You were also the one who pointed to lynching RoL. I understand he was inactive Versatile...I know Iaaan's made some super scummy ass posts...Consistently advocated letting the nukes on L land. I think I'ma go see if he commented on Caller's nuke... Show nested quote +On March 25 2010 09:58 Iaaan wrote:
@haster27
I think we should let his nuke hit Caller. There isn't really any reason not to, its not like losing him is a big loss, we shouldn't waste our anti nukes, and we get more information. I doubt RoL is mafia (of course he still has to be lynched), so I think that it is better to let the nuke hit.
And big lol at Abenson for coming to vote for RoL and not saying anything about opz. How stupid can you get? If you are masons you need to confirm it. If you aren't, we need to know to. Saying nothing just makes us think your even stupider, you have an easy opportunity to be useful, and you just ignore it. Okay...Well...This tells me that if Caller is mafia, Iaaan isn't (unless he knew Japan would save). I think believing the first part of that is more likely.... Xelin also supported Caller being Nuked Also on page 27 they both advocate letting the nuke fall again, within a very short amount of time of each other. Infun hasn't posted too much. Show nested quote +On March 25 2010 15:36 meeple wrote:On March 25 2010 15:27 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Just to remention this again in a separate post. I think most of the thoughts towards nuking were ill conceived. A town consensus on nuking would never be reached, and not using our nukes for more than one day would be dumb. Although I like how this is turning out so far even if i die. Well... as this game goes on, that much is becoming more clear. It took some desperation to get a majority vote, so getting everyone to agree on a nuke is tough in any case. I'd like to urge people to rethink their votes. For me... I'm going to change my vote to ##vote tree.huggerHe has very few posts in the thread, and they center around lynching L because he'll be inactive. More than anything, I want him to step up and post more and defend himself. Before L was unbanned, Meeple noticed tree.hugger voted for L and fought for it because L would be inactive. Funny isn't it? I think Meeple is town aligned. Show nested quote +On March 25 2010 15:54 Zona wrote:Thank you for that response to the latter part of my post, meeple. Please respond to the middle portion which I will repost here. On March 25 2010 14:59 meeple wrote:
I've said before that I don't agree usually with lynching most inactive, I mean it tells us nothing about the person or possible ties.
I don't know why Zona was so pushy for it, since there are obviously some better targets when we consider that we have two basically confirmed townies and a better choice would be to sift through the votes for Abenson(yes I know I'm on that list...) and see who tried to push the bandwagon. I see no good reason for you to delay naming your "obviously better targets" based on criteria other than being inactive, so perhaps you could kindly name them now? The biggest strike against tree.hugger seems to be that he hasn't posted much, along with the vote for L without a post to back it up. It will give the town the benefit of your analysis and show how I was mistaken to focus on inactives. Please do recall that I pointed out RoL when he only had 3 posts, all of them content-free. Huh? HI AMBER!!!! Show nested quote +On March 23 2010 23:08 Amber[LighT] wrote:On March 23 2010 22:54 Ace wrote:
2 months? o.0
And yes L is still able to be killed even if I dont find a replacement. He's pretty much still fair game, guess you guys can consider him a lurker ^_^
If someone has nukes when they die the nukes somehow disappear, kind of like Iraq irl. On March 23 2010 13:12 Ace wrote:
Votes
With 22 players, it's 12 to lynch!
Deadline is Thursday, May 25th 12:00AM ET
^^ All this bio-chemical warfare. We should go for the ez kill then and go for L if he's going to be inactive anyway. Any other target would be foolish at this point, unless someone thinks there's any reason to suspect anyone else. ##vote L Elem supports keeping L alive, note this Show nested quote +On March 23 2010 19:01 Elemenope wrote:
He still has time to contribute or cast a vote. It'll require a nuke to go off though. Which kind of contradicts what the few of us who are up have been saying though =\ JeeJee too! Show nested quote +On March 23 2010 23:25 JeeJee wrote:
also why the fuck are you voting for L? sure he will be afk for 2 days, but when has L's activity ever been a problem in mafia? as soon as he's unbanned, he'll hop right back in. Let me point this post out, as my position on Caller, he came up with the idea to prolong days, and give L a chance to get into the game, without getting bussed originally. Show nested quote +On March 24 2010 00:55 Caller wrote:
Well guys, in case nobody noticed, before we can lynch anybody, a nuke has to be launched, or day won’t end. Seeing as how nobody else has been an obvious target, I propose that we "nuke" L this turn around. As town, we need more information, and the best way of getting information is by killing a few people. For instance, we don’t have any idea what possible roles there are, aside from our own. More importantly, he won’t be able to contribute to town for a good 40 or so hours. By which, of course, the day would have ended, timewise, unless we nuke somebody to postpone it another 24 hours. And if necessary, we can always delay the day by nuking someone that’s already being nuked, or somebody without any nukes can launch a “nuke” to prolong the day.
In fact, the best way to go about this is for somebody without any actual nukes to nuke L. This will postpone the day and give us a lynch without raising ToD or killing L in the event he is town. Since a nuke has to go off to progress the day at all, a fake nuke at this point would be the best. We should save our real nukes for when we need them.
Nikon says he doesn't think killing L too quickly would be a good thing. And points his FoS at Caller....(he quoted Caller's above post in this post) Show nested quote +On March 24 2010 01:07 Nikon wrote:
Let's not nuke anyone just yet, shall we? While I disagree with L's general plan of nuke retaliation, killing him quickly may prove to be hurtful in the long run, ESPECIALLY if we use nukes. Going towards the ToD so fast isn't good. Your post is pretty suspicious.
And having a player without nukes nuke him? That's not going to accomplish anything, since nuking anyone isn't required to end the day in the first place. P.s. Zona keeps suspicion going at caller on pages 10 and 11. Tree.Huggers vote for L Show nested quote +On March 24 2010 03:04 tree.hugger wrote:
As per the typical Mayor decision to lynch the most inactive person, I say we should just lynch L, and avoid the eventual abrasive spam that will descend on this thread in two days time.
##vote L Versatile (jack ass) Abenson(mason) are the next to vote for L...I shoulda whopped him for that -_- Then JohnnySpazz...(green) Hi Hi Iaaan!! He might be a townie afterall!! Honestly, my suspicions of Iaaan occur later, in pages numbered 40- 55 I think. It's just how his posts are speaking I think. Show nested quote +On March 24 2010 08:27 Iaaan wrote:On March 24 2010 05:55 Abenson wrote:
I will vote for L simply because he is temp-banned and not much help as of now.
##vote L Bullshit, your just hopping on the bandwagon because L called to get you lynched. Revenge voting is stupid. Everyone bandwagoning on L needs to stop, he will be back before day 2, and by killing someone without any posts, what information do we get as town? none. We can lynch L after he comes back if he is action scummy/stupid, it is a waste to do it before. He has contributed with a plan and will be active when he is back. If you think that the day 1 lynch is a crapshoot, your right, but voting for someone just because they are banned for a little bit, especially when they have been actively posting content is retarded, there are plenty of other people who haven't contributed, and who obviously wont bring in any content to the game. Therefor, I am voting for Abenson. Its between him and johnnyspazz who are hopping on the bandwagon. Bandwagonning is scummy, Mafia would love to get someone else killed asap to protect themselves an be able to pass the blame for it, that is the only reason I can think of for voting L without posting any real reasons of, other than just being bad. Think for yourselves, and if your going to follow someone elses ideas, at least choose good ones. ##vote: Abenson I'm just going to leave Fishball's post up to someone else...I can't even see his intentions at all. Lol. He didn't wanna argue with L, but it's obvious by this point L's getting quite the amount of votes. Show nested quote +On March 24 2010 09:13 Fishball wrote:
##Vote: L
Ironically, I don't like retaliation.
Or do I?
So Iaaan starts defending L rather swiftly...and BAM here comes, you guessed it, the all knowing tree.hugger...Rather scummy. Show nested quote +On March 24 2010 09:43 tree.hugger wrote:
Don't let L's reputation for being frightening and wrong discourage you. His guesses haven't gotten better over time, and I doubt a two day break will help his logic sober up.
That man should never be let near a blinking red button, take him out.
Also the 'or worse' clearly means a kind of 'Dr. Strangelove' doomsday device. Purity of Essence, remember, PoE, PoE, Purity of Essence....
+ Show Spoiler +On March 24 2010 11:49 Iaaan wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2010 16:13 ~OpZ~ wrote:On March 23 2010 13:39 L wrote:
Hey; Better idea.
Don't fucking nuke anyone at all because we might lose to radiation. First person to nuke gets chain nuked by everyone else. I call this strategy M.A.D. for Mutually Assured Destruction.
Sound awesome? I know it does.
Now for day 1 lynch: Kill abenson. Kid's terribad and not worth keeping alive. Aye....I will make certain to fire many nukes in the interest of assuring mutual destruction if things do not go properly. First step of these talks shall be a statement of bargaining. L, if you bus someone for something for a previous game, I can assure you destruction. Abenson has done nothing improper yet in this game and hasn't even had the opportunity to post. I feel he at least deserves the opportunity to prove he can be a better player. We should first discuss a plan of action. Ace was pretty smart by not telling us what countries were included in this game, otherwise we could of simply called out our countries (not including our arsenals), and seen if the country we had mattered. I'll assume countries with anti-nukes are like day time paramedics. I'm curious if their are ones that protect against night actions. While Zona has a decent plan to deter nuking, it involves a lot of secondary nuking. (One nuke = Two more nukes being fired as retaliation). Then his suggestion of a third party scares me into believing he himself is a third party. Seriously, one retaliatory nuke should be enough. We have no idea how many nukes can actually be fired before we wind up fucked from radiation. Until we hear from every person I don't think we should decide on a lynch candidate. We have 2 days to find a target, let's use them. Everyone post an overall strategy, don't just cosign someone elses. I support L's M.A.D. only because I will not let someone bully me, or force a band wagon when half a day hasn't even went by yet. Be wary of following L too hard. I don't support holding grudges like that. Also, Abenson, remember this: I'm only defending for now because you haven't posted. If you continue with your habitual one liners, I may be forced to side with L and support some corrective actions. Don't take this lightly. L is rather amazing at creating band wagons, but I see people have become atleast mildly fed up with his strong grudge holding. We also have no need to day lynch, remember this. We can start shit and throw suspicion as much as possible. Ace said we need a majority of players, and once he notices, the days over. No changing your vote after that. Day cycle ends. This can hurt us severely. Everyone must be active or else we will be thoroughly fucked. Keep yourselves read up on the thread at the least, don't miss anything. If you see a bandwagon, hesitate. Don't just jump on it because you might just wind up ending the day and regret it later. Good Luck. Let's try and play nice. Going back a few pages... Sup, North Korea, I hope you aren't still hoping to throw all those nukes around, or maybe you will be the one to lynch day 1. I like your posts, but make sure you are clear. I can see why people are voting for you, need to be less ambiguous. ^_^ Haha...N.K. comment... Another confirmed townie votes for L Show nested quote +On March 24 2010 21:41 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I will be later tonight and can read everything, but at the moment I don't have time. I have class 10-6 EST but can read after that. I will vote for L just in case I don't get back in time.
##I vote for L Now...this post comes at what I'd like to consider a more crucial time...and D3 hasn't said much so this is a little out of place...Abenson and me were gaining votes, and now would be a good time for the mafia to start voting L. He was still, or was almost, the vote leader at the point. Show nested quote +On March 25 2010 01:06 d3_crescentia wrote:
Lunchtiem. Don't really feel too strongly for anyone right now, though I'd rather vote L than Abenson, because L could dick over the town way harder. Abenson, well, doesn't really *do* anything so we can lynch him anytime.
##vote L I role claimed around this time, and then Zona jumps to my aid...LMNOP was trying to still get Abenson lynched or atleast considers it an option still...so its kinda weird here...-_-...I dunno...And Xelin comes to my aid...weird... Show nested quote +On March 25 2010 07:28 XeliN wrote:
I'm going to ##vote Elemenope . He has contributed alot and from what I have read I don't see how it is possible that he would argue for lynching one of OpZ and Abenson, now we know they are confirmed, from a pro-town perspective.
Other than that I would switch to voting for the least active poster if it means getting a majority. I'll post a little more on the importance of most of this. Versatile (? Jack ass?) JohnnySpazz (Green)) Abenson (blue) ~OpZ~ (Blue RoL (Blue/Green) Tree.Hugger (Nuked L (medic) without agreement) Fishball ( -_- ) Might be missing a few, very tired....2 hours of sleep. And hung over. This is my composition of notes for you all to see...Lots of posts sifted through to find out what about this L situation went down....and now I'm mildly disappointed... I propose Fishball be DT checked tonight, if their is a role with night role checks.
I was fairly vocal about not lynching L while he was banned, there was nothing that made him look scummy, and nothing to be learned from his allignment since he didnt have any posts. Once he came back and started posting, I started wanting him dead, for reasons that are obviously incorrect now. Thus, I didn't want L dead because he was a strong opponent, helping the town, I wanted him dead because I thought he could be mafia, and because I wanted to be a little more conservative with anti nukes.
At this point, on day 2, I would vote for caller, d3, fishball, or xelin, whoever has the best chance of getting the majority of votes.
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and I would like to point out the irony:
+ Show Spoiler +On March 28 2010 15:23 Versatile wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2010 15:00 Iaaan wrote:
I want to point out that the mafia will have been sitting around laughing at us while we were screwing ourselves. There was no reason for them to post anything to screw up the town because we were doing it for them. So the people who haven't posted much in a reasonable amount of time I think should be called attention to:
2. d3_crescentia
3. JeeJee
7. Amber[LighT]
8. Caller
12. Zona
14. Fishball
16. meeple
18. Nikon
20. nemy
People who voted against L originally for no reason other than that he was banned are Fishball and d3. Versatile and tree.hugger also voted for L for no reason, and used nukes stupidly. These four people are who I think should be lynched. Verse will probably be hit with a nuke soon.
Verse and tree.hugger both nuked L, looking at it from a mafia's perspective, they would know that L is town, and a veteran/useful player; thus they would have motivation to nuke him past just being pissed off at him.
And I can see why people are suspicious of me, I haven't really been posting much rational behind my thoughts, but just my thoughts themselves. I've been busy/lazy, but like foolishness says, no one cares. But I acknowledge the accusations at least, and will try to respond to them, and point to people that I think are more suspicious than me. well, if i was mafia, i wouldn't be getting hit with a nuke, now would i? c'mon. you've seriously got some work to do on your game face. On March 28 2010 15:28 Ace wrote:Missile Launch detected!![[image loading]](http://jeremayakovka.typepad.com/jeremayakovka/images/qassam_rocket_dud.jpg) Missiles from Bill Murray streak towards Versatile. As the missiles break the skyline the General looks on in terror. Suddenly he looks closely at the warheads and asks "Are those pies on the warheads?" The missiles end up damaging part of the city, but they are not nuclear.Versatile survives the attack!
Missiles launched in retaliation by Versatile will strike BM at 15:42 KST!
Missiles launched by L towards Caller will strike at 10:09 KST!
Nukes in the air: 2
Nukes detonated: 2
Radiation levels: low
Day currently ends at 10:09 KST March29th Not that I think verse should be lynched atm.
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*to clarify my above post, I dont think that it makes verse scummy, merely that it was funny o:
On March 29 2010 02:26 JeeJee wrote:
oh you have got to be shitting me, eh?
here's my addition to the current shitstorm. zona brought up a point where someone went "oh lul u want the night to start?? eager to use up your abilities huh?" implying him mafia. sure that's all well and good, we all know mafia get a nightkill this game, but hey. did you all forget L flipped medic? that means we also probably have the typical night roles like DTs in this game too. thing is.. the shorter the game is, the less useful they are. and at this rate i'm not even sure we'll ever get a rolecheck out of them before we blow the shit out of each other.
i mean for fuck's sake, do you realize this day started on march TWENTY THIRD? like SIX DAYS AGO? we have been launching nukes for 133 hours now. and of course there's at least another 24 hours of it thanks to canada eh. of course i can't blame him because he's quite likely townie and he *is* nuking a target that's been suggested by quite a few people. it's just that, hey, it's like the seventh nuke fired before night1. as douglas adams' Mr. L. Prosser would say -- "what a day"
now i believe L suggested me and haster nuking tree.hugger and xelin. i'm giving weight to this particular suggestion because he is confirmed townie. well, tree.hugger i suppose is no longer a choice at this point, but xelin's still there. i'd like to point out, for the umpteenth time, how i feel about nukes. if the majority wants xelin to get shot, fine, haster or I can probably take care of that. but if you think i am going to nuke without town consensus you're out of your fucking mind. i already made it quite clear that my stance is "say no to nukes" and gee, maybe this current shitstorm will help you see why.
all these inactivity lists that were brought up are quite interesting actually. i think suspects like d3 and fishball (i outlined them earlier as well) should definitely be looked at as lynch (or nuke... /rolleyes) targets. but hey, instead we're fucking nuking all willy-nilly. whatever works right? OH WAIT WE HAVEN'T EXPLODED A SINGLE RED NOW HAVE WE
grrrr
If your planning to nuke please do it soon so we can get on to day 2 T.T
or just don't nuke/wait O:
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On March 30 2010 02:05 Versatile wrote:
anti-nuke it opz.
nikon just confirmed himself as mafia.
idiot.
yes
On March 30 2010 04:09 JeeJee wrote:
iaaan
-against lynching L
-for rol's nuke hitting
-wants johnny and L to die, and lynch tree.hugger
-has a big logic flaw where if L is green, tree.hugger has to die
-supports shooting down anonymous nuke
-suspects both BM and L
-"i want all nukes in the air to fall because none of the players are confirmed townies" another logic flaw
-also wants verse to die
That does look pretty bad, I've wanted to kill 5 now confirmed townies.
But I figure I'll post what I think anyway!
Mafia:
meeple (and tree.hugger linked him to d3, if one of them is mafia the other is more likely to be)
amber
nikon
fishball
maybe infundibulum, caller and nemy, and d3
town:
me obviously (:
opz
abenson
zona
haster
verse
probably LMNOP and Jeejee
Most people have posted arguments against these people already so I wont do too much, but the one game I was mafia in (Caller's game, so similar situation with nukes, except faster), it was easy to not really read the thread, but come in occasionally and agree with ideas that sound good, but that I knew wouldn't mess my team up. Not being really inactive, but staying out of intense arguments and not really commiting myself to eitehr side of an argument. So thus, my main suspect is meeple. I think that nikon was really stupid to nuke zona whatever team he is on, IMO zona is obviously town.
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and I think someone should anti nuke the nuke going to zona.
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I would like to point out, that just because nikon says the nuke is fake doesn't mean that it is fake, if he is mafia and he is fairly sure that he will get lynched, why not claim that the nuke is a fake in order to put it through and kill a good player? or even if he is town, and he really wants zona dead, there isn't anything to stop him from lying to get his nuke to hit.
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Ace:
I think that you should start enforcing the ban rule for inactivity, for not posting at every 24 hours. Caller I'm sure hasn't posted recently at all, and I'm sure that other players (nemy, abenson, fishball maybe) have had periods well over 24 hours with no posts.
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Well, caller is obviously reading the thread actively, but still doesn't feel the need to contribute publicly. hmmm
and @ anti nuking nikons missle, I guess the question is, are we willing to risk losing zona, based on the word of nikon? based off his posts the last few pages, I would consider the possibility of a lie.
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