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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 16 2010 18:57 GMT
#969
omg dude, i've been on IRC once in the past 5 years, and it was when TeamLiquid was down for maintenance during the time that Mystlord was about to stream some pro scene.

that one time I was on IRC, I talked with BC and Ace. He can also vouch for me posting the Mystlord stream I was going to be viewing as a link in the IRC channel. I have been on there once in years.

Those statements are not contradictory, Zona.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 16 2010 18:58 GMT
#970
I do not use IRC, saying that hurts my character. I am not going to sit by and have my character hurt by someone who is sore about getting killed in a previous game. This shit is detracting from the goal of the thread, which is to catch reds. Please, stop the badgering. I've had your FoS on me way too much to really be justified. Go back to ignoring me, and talking down to me, and treating me like i'm not worthy of your analysis.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 16 2010 19:19 GMT
#975
On March 17 2010 03:59 Versatile wrote:
i can see the town is hesitant to lynch BC, and if that's not what the town wants, i will go with that.

so for lynch candidates for day 3, what does everyone think of putting the L/BM thing to rest. i highly doubt that either one of them will be killed during the night. as i stated before, if they're both townies, the mafia will want them @ each others' throats as a distraction, and if either is mafia, the death of one during the night would draw too much attention to the other. unless they're just that diabolical.

thoughts?



I would love to put it to rest. I like L. I believe he is town.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 16 2010 19:20 GMT
#976
On March 17 2010 04:02 Versatile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2010 03:55 Zona wrote:
Another thing I want the town to think about is the pardoner power.

I think the pardoner MECHANISM as a whole brings NOTHING good to the town. When players die, the rest of the town gains CONCRETE INFORMATION. However, with mafia nightkills, the mafia decides what information to reveal, so the information from a lynch is much more valuable, because it is not totally driven by the mafia. As well, vote history is very valuable when combined with lynch results. So when the pardoner ever pardons, the town is deprived of information is needs to get.

Okay, so the pardoner shouldn't pardon. But therein lies the problem. When we reach lategame, the pardoner power becomes EVEN MORE DANGEROUS to the town, when in the hands of a mafia member. By that point in the game, the pardon can simply be used to cancel a town's lynch, and allow the mafia to continue whittling down the town with their nightkill. So we as a town want to reach lategame without the pardoner having his or her power. But if the pardoner ever uses his or her power...it's a bad thing.

I have no easy answer to this dilemma. However, if we force the pardoner to use up pardons earlier in the game to remove the risk of mafia pardoning late game, the town falls behind and loses two lynches. If we kill the pardoner with a lynch, we fall behind in ONE lynch, but we also lose one town member.

The only alternative is we somehow have to prove the pardoner is definitely town, so we can avoid using pardons and also go into the lategame without worrying about mafia pardoning.


i think there is only one way to deal with this. the two tells the pardoner (incog in this game) that we do not want any lynches. and if he goes against the town's wishes so blantantly, that's cause for immediate lynching.

of course, this should have been done in the beginning of the game, but we can just keep it in mind for future games as well.

obviously there some problems with this, for example, it counts on the pardoner keeping their word so it is not full proof.


It would also be torn if the pardoner was a DT. If he claimed DT he could justify saving someone.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 16 2010 19:25 GMT
#980
not in my eyes. you can believe that. i'm not going to vote for L.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 16 2010 19:25 GMT
#981
I would be much more willing to lynch you than L.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 16 2010 19:26 GMT
#982
and apparently incognito agreed. hey, we were right about malongo, maybe he can be right about you.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 16 2010 19:37 GMT
#984
the thing that's "wrong with me" is the fact that I am green, and am not interested in detracting from the town by wasting a lynch. What's wrong with YOU?
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 16 2010 19:38 GMT
#986
How about this, we lynch someone else and we don't lynch me because I'm 100% green.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 16 2010 19:38 GMT
#987
I'm as sober as can be. I don't see where you get off acting like lynching me would benefit the town.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 16 2010 19:39 GMT
#988
Go check my archives, read my posts, maybe you'll learn how easy it is to read i'm town.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 16 2010 19:40 GMT
#989
It'd be nice if you'd post some real analysis instead of hopping on the bandwagon, and also putting the FoS on people who are obviously green.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 16 2010 19:43 GMT
#991
I've gotten 2 votes all game. Real lynch candidate there. You want to lynch our mayor and you want to lynch an obvious green? I say we lynch you.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 16 2010 19:45 GMT
#992
On March 17 2010 04:41 Versatile wrote:
lol, why are you behaving as if this is the first time you've been accused all game?

you've been a lynch candidate for ages. i'm promoting discussion to get more people involved in the discussion so we can get a better idea of where the town stands.

and if you are mafia like L has stated over and over again, lynching you would benefit the town.



nice way of admitting you're trying to ride a bandwagon to look innocent.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 16 2010 19:46 GMT
#994
Sorry, but I don't push for the lynches of people who I believe are green like you do.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 16 2010 20:55 GMT
#1005
It definitely wasn't me complainin about language I cuss like a sailor
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 16 2010 22:14 GMT
#1007
Dude, you're crazy. I'm trying to defend my name against an idiotic lynch. You come at me with the most obscure things, but i'm going to make an engineering bay and siege tanks against your obvious cheese. I don't care whether it's your DTs or your Reavers, send anything you want at me. Check me with your dts, or drop it. I'm green.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 16 2010 22:29 GMT
#1011
I'm green, though, so it will make him look good.

If he's green or blue, great.
If he's red, that's not good L.

I don't believe he's red, but I don't know who are red and who are green, so I can't write anyone off.



Quote from sidesprang:
Which brings us to other candidates. Quite frankly, there's a lot. We can never be sure, but at the moment, I'm not comfortable at all with Abenson as a candidate. I would suggest Malongo and Sidesprang as alternatives. Both of whom have very few posts. Malongo has also gone mysteriously missing after his bid for office. Soon after posting, he was called out, and never responded. Which is always unsettling. Furthermore, he usually posts more material. Sometimes its not very useful material, but he always has some material. Either way, this is different for Malongo.


Why are you so worried about Malongo, and why were you so late to post your archives?
I'm not sure if you're red or not, but this needs to be explained. You had no reason to be worried about him. Were you trying to put suspicion on him? I hope you were. At first, I figured this made you look green, but then it made me mistake you more for talking about him at all. I guess I'm being hypocritical. Just the wording you used was different from mine. You feel bad he's not posting, whereas I was saying he was my highest suspect on my list of who could possibly be red (I expect it of everyone but myself).
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 16 2010 22:30 GMT
#1012
MY team = green players, and I have no idea who they are. I'm in no circles. I can't trust anyone.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 16 2010 22:38 GMT
#1015
With you I wasn't too serious, just trying to do the same thing to you you're doing to me. I mentioned him to many people as being red.
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