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On March 12 2010 17:13 sidesprang wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2010 16:57 johnnyspazz wrote:On March 12 2010 16:48 sidesprang wrote:This is my first post, its coming up really late. Sorry about that, FF13 messed up my schoolwork which then again messed up my mafiaposting. I've now read through all the posts, and i ended up voting for L. Beliving he is the best bet for pro-town player. Tho honestly i dont think im capable of spotting scummy behavior this early in the game :S When i analyzed players before i usualy was looking at clues because that was the easiest(altho im usualy wrong there to  ). i hate excuses. why would you sign up for a mafia game if you weren't committed to it? is it cause you didn't get a MAFIA role this game? also wouldn't you rather have a DT in office? you should let this game mess up your schoolwork not FF13. oh noes im 24 hours late, did not know that was a make it or break it kinda situation. And yes im not a red role, but if i played only to play red that would make most of the games pretty dull would it not ? And ofc i would have a DT in the office if that could be 100% guarranteed. And lastly, I've waited way longer for FF13 than this mafia game, so atm FF > school > mafia, (ofc RL stuff is in there too  )
NOBODY CARES!
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L is elected Bill Murray gets lynched the town loses an active poster
I implore you all to consider voting for BloodyC0bbler. I don't mind L becoming pardoner. I actually don't believe L is red this game. It's just really fishy that he's implied he's a dt, implied he's a bus driver, and implied that he's a green on a suicide mission to discover the mafia. I hope he's any of these, as long as he isn't red, but I'd be hoping for it more if he wasn't after my head.
Other than his wanting to kill me, I'll explain why it is best to not vote for him in layman's terms. He is a loose cannon. When you get a player like BC or Incognito, even d3_crescentia, you get someone who is analytical and normal. They will react coolly to nearly any situation. L is obviously not as cool acting as he would have you believe. He holds grudges, he rages over actions, and he has been acting scummy regardless of whether or not he is red which has been detrimental to the town.
If elected, would I lynch L? ____ no. He is too valuable to lynch if he really IS something like the bus driver. I would be much more apt to go for someone who is going to be modkilled anyways if that is possible. There is a higher percentage of town vs mafia, and thus a higher propensity of picking a town member than a mafia member in a stupid day 1 lynch where you have literally no information of any substance, weight, or value.
Do the right thing, vote for BloodyC0bbler or Incognito. Don't vote for someone who changes their mind like L.
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I really appreciate how you try to paint me red, especially given that if you go to the damn archives i'm probably the most innocent person in this game. Noone in this game really thinks I'm red, and I really don't expect the mafia to want to kill me. They have bigger fish to fry. Actually, I take that back. The mafia will probably try to kill me, because you are their godfather, and want to sway their poor, clay-like minds into doing what you want them to do, even if it means risking you winning the game to pay off some personal vendetta from a previous game that should not and needn't be brought into this current game.
Not helping the town? I am giving the town a guaranteed helpful, pro-town player in office. If I was red, would I be allowed to run from my mafia? Hell no. They wouldn't touch a Bill Murray campaign with a ten foot pole. Do I expect to win? No. My sole purpose of running is not to get into office, it is to prove I'm innocent.
While people may not like me, and they may not agree with everything I agree with, I believe they can find it in their hearts to largely pardon my past discretions, and that will be easier in part because they realize that I am honestly trying my hardest to help the town this game.
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We already know who the DT is....
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I'd also like to re-iterate that the public conception of me and it's perception of me make it plain to see that the chances of my being red are literally slim to none. In this instance, I implore you all to shift votes towards me and enable my creation of a town circle. I am not going to ask you to roleclaim to me in PM, but I ask you to at least consider PMing me so we can have a nice talk. This will enable me to analyze the way that people are PMing me, and I can organize files on you within a sort of "portfolio" word document. I'm not going to be quoting you if necessary, I would just like to start taking the way that you act and what your opinions of helping the town are. I will be "going door to door" so to speak, pming everyone so that I at least send a pm to every town aligned player.
Sorry to those of you who are red that I will be pming, but please don't reply to it. I don't feel like talking to you at this time. If you would like to admit it, that's fine, but I would personally rather you didn't. I'm trying to have fun catching you. Those of you who want to catch MAFIA with me SPEAK UP. Other than Incognito(with his town archives), and possibly bloodyc0bbler (with his plan in the position that we have 2 dts, checkable in office[i don't trust that, btw, because i feel like he could be a godfather claiming dt {if he wins the election first that is}]).
I, S.C.R.F. am running for Mayor. With only 2 hours until the voting closes, we need to prevent L from having to kill himself when he comes into office. It's ok L, we love you. We want you to live a couple nights. If elected, I promise not to lynch L.
I would lynch Malongo. From the get go, he was backing L. Malongo Chile. March 11 2010 11:28. Posts 2786 PM Profile Blog Quote dont be a pussy ^ trust that guy seems legit. posting that right underneath
When called on it, sure, he may have started arguing with him some. I don't trust him as far as I can throw him. I feel like his late candidacy was a ploy by the mafia to make it look like he was green. It is also fishy because at that point L was behind significantly.
L is a lot harder to pin, but I'll just use the fact that he's lying through his teeth.
"On March 11 2010 05:04 L wrote: I got a role that makes me want mayor. Mayor is DT checkable in this game, keep that in mind, so even if the other DT wants to check, he can, then the confirmed train can go to town."
On March 12 2010 11:47 L wrote: "Am I L?
Oh, looks like I am.
Hence if I'm running as green, I'm going to kill myself as confirmation in the part of a larger plan."
I'm really interested in his role. If he's not the DT himself, which from this point on I don't really consider he is even if he shows up as that in a rolecheck, I would have the DT rolecheck L tonight.
Onto MadnessMan:
On March 12 2010 09:27 madnessman wrote: Show nested quote + On March 12 2010 09:08 Iaaan wrote: I originally voted for incognito just because I thought it would be nice to protect a veteran who posts alot. No ses pools of noobiness/inactivty.
But, I'm changing my vote to BC, simply because he looks like the candidate that is easiest to hold accountable. L is quite ambiguous. Not answering questions/confirming things and posting lots of walls of text.
Also, I think that whichever of the three doesn't win will probably be the first person lynched if they aren't mafia.
I originally dismissed L as well for his hoity-toity posting, but after reading his posts more closely, I am pretty convinced he's town-aligned. I wouldn't say his posts are gems "chock full of chocolatey goodness," but they DO have a lot of substance. It's just that his rhetoric/phrasing make it very easy to miss what he implies. As such, I don't think he should be readily dismissed as a candidate just because he is not confirming things... My personal guess would be that he's vigil/bus driver.
MadnessMan is basically a radio advertisement for L's campaign. He did the same thing for BC, sure, but he's blindly sticking with the weakest of the 3 candidates whenever he is a very analytical person. He knows L is scummy, because he is scummy himself, so he has to shift his playstyle away from what he has been doing in previous games to try and hide the fact that he's red. Not this time, the jig is up.
Fulgrim wrote something that I found interesting too. "Especially since its not critical if we lose the sheriff role to a godfather, because even if we do there would be no way to tell by simple DT chekcs." This alone wouldn't ring any alarm bells, but I am reminded of a line by L stating that he needs the mayor's spot.
Last but not least is ~OpZ~. He has been the least active of them, having real life commitments, and he comes out with that as his excuse for being red, maintaining KP, and not giving himself away. Seems and feels scummy to me. I would consider lynching him if people wanted to save Malongo in large numbers (if I was Mayor, which I won't be).
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we'll see if fulgrim shifts his vote to L. I'm not 100% on him.
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It's tough to organize the town when they don't want to be organized, or are inactive.
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Also, Ver was pretty certain C0bbler, Ace, and Redtooth were all red that other game. two blues and a green right there. Day 1 analysis is always fishy, L. I just want to do as much as I can to help the town. If fulgrim shifts his vote to you, though, that will be sketchy as fuck.
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Which is exactly what you're doing. That's the pot calling the kettle black if I've ever seen it. You're going to lynch someone who is trying to help the town? I'm honestly trying to figure out who is red. If you get elected, and lynch me, my name won't be red.
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I asked you to vote for me because I literally pmed every person like I said I would because I am a man of my word. I also feel like you are worried about being accused. this is the most i've ever seen you post, madnessman. scared?
Feels like you were really quick to defend yourself. If you were green you would be like "what do i have to hide?", but that's not how you're being.
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lol you like that? i laughed my ass off
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hahaha nakedness = guaranteed green
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oh, yeah. too bad i'd end up green or the miller.
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jeejee pmed me telling me to change my vote, and I originally wanted Incognito in power anyways. I voted for BC out of necessity so I can make the mafia waste a hit on me later on.
I guess i've finally convinced people not to trust you, and i'm going to admit something now:
I kind of trust you, L. Sorry that I was so accusatory with you, I sort of had to do that to keep myself alive. I feel like you're either townie or the bus driver... only like 10-15% chance of being mafia.
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How about the fact that I voted Incognito a long time ago........ then i voted BC because I didnt want to die? make sense BRA?
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im sorry you lost, im sorry for you that i might live... im going to go watch a movie dts rolecheck me if you want, but it would be a waste. u can pm me and ill tell you what color i am.
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So I suspiciously voted for the person I wanted to vote for originally? you all make me laugh. The timing of it was off because I wasn't even thinking "you know, you can totally screw this guy who wanted to lynch you" until JeeJee brought it to my attention.
Tough shit, L. Sorry you didn't get to lynch me. If BC does, that's his decision. I'm going to like him whether he does it or not. If he does lynch me, though, I guaran-fucking-tee you I'm going to be flipping blue, green, or black. Anyone want to step up and put their head on the line for Day 2 if I don't flip red?
I can't trust anyone, because I'm the only person I know is a townie. I have noone.
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going to go lay down... might be back.
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i've explained my switch 3 times already. this is the last time i'm explaining it.
I have FIFTEEN PMS from you Incognito. L wanted to lynch me. JeeJee made me realize that you can be in office too. I had figured that it was either going to be L as mayor with me dead, or L as pardoner where I have THIS pm from him last game:
Original Message: "I'm not pardoning anyone. " ----------------------------------------- Original Message: if the town lynches me, would you pardon me?
Do I want a pardoner who would not save me? He goes on to say that it would be a "gigantic waste of a day", but I disagree. With night hits, the voting on lynches and the like actually shift. Someone, given an extra day or two, can actually make a good case as to why they shouldn't be killed.
Lastly, I simply like you more than L this game(Incognito), and am happy with who we have in office. We have two level-headed veterans in office. L has been all over the place on hinting his role. BC says DT and you say blue.
DTs don't waste your checks on me Medics don't bother protecting me i'm green.
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dislike double-posting, but i'd like to call out our elected officials to update their archives...
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