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That should prove I'm green if anything. I told you I was suspicious of Malongo 3 days before he was up for lynching. I sat in the archives thread literally f5ing for 4 fucking minutes dude lol just in case he showed back up, i was going to vote for him again. i've explained this. produce some results that didn't come from L, as he's obviously only trying to get me killed because i killed him in caller's game................
how about you produce some results like a damn rolecheck? ever think of actually doing something that makes sense, as oppose to linking biased criticism that actually proves i'm green?
i'll highlight where i said malongo was red in the thread before ANYONE ELSE DID:
I, S.C.R.F. am running for Mayor. With only 2 hours until the voting closes, we need to prevent L from having to kill himself when he comes into office. It's ok L, we love you. We want you to live a couple nights. If elected, I promise not to lynch L.
I would lynch Malongo.
Oh, really? During MAYORAL CAMPAIGNS I highlighted Malongo as red. We have 1 confirmed red player, and I was going to lynch them if elected. I WOULD HAVE LYNCHED A RED ON DAY 1 IF YOU MADE ME MAYOR.
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On March 17 2010 14:47 L wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2010 14:44 Bill Murray wrote: What information do you have on me? Produce it, because that shit will roll right off of me. Kinda irrelevant. You're going to die unless you take the ticket we gave you a few days ago. Instead of producing content you're spamming. On the plus side, you flipping red gives us an easy roadmap to all your allies, including that cute GF of yours.
if i die, i will be townie or miller. you are completely wrong, and you being on my case all game proves that you are a wrathful kid.
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On March 17 2010 14:49 Bill Murray wrote:That should prove I'm green if anything. I told you I was suspicious of Malongo 3 days before he was up for lynching. I sat in the archives thread literally f5ing for 4 fucking minutes dude lol just in case he showed back up, i was going to vote for him again. i've explained this. produce some results that didn't come from L, as he's obviously only trying to get me killed because i killed him in caller's game................ how about you produce some results like a damn rolecheck? ever think of actually doing something that makes sense, as oppose to linking biased criticism that actually proves i'm green? i'll highlight where i said malongo was red in the thread before ANYONE ELSE DID: Show nested quote +I, S.C.R.F. am running for Mayor. With only 2 hours until the voting closes, we need to prevent L from having to kill himself when he comes into office. It's ok L, we love you. We want you to live a couple nights. If elected, I promise not to lynch L.
I would lynch Malongo. Oh, really? During MAYORAL CAMPAIGNS I highlighted Malongo as red. We have 1 confirmed red player, and I was going to lynch them if elected. I WOULD HAVE LYNCHED A RED ON DAY 1 IF YOU MADE ME MAYOR.
respond to this L
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On March 17 2010 14:51 johnnyspazz wrote: nice BM, you finally posted something that makes me doubt your redness
would be nice if your vote would show that
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Um, respond to the fact I was going to lynch Malongo with my mayor lynch, L
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that is a brilliant idea, though. that is sort of why i ran for mayor in the first place; the mafia wouldn't let me run if i was on their team.
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On March 17 2010 15:03 johnnyspazz wrote:why not? i don't quite understand this reasoning Because I am a fuckup.
On August 20 2009 10:18 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2009 10:17 SugiuraMidori wrote:Foolish.. you always love to complain about bandwagons... are you perhaps against losing one of your red friends?  There's a good reason why I love to complain about them. Surely you can see it my way no? I am against losing innocent townies.
Come save me, Foolishness.
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On March 17 2010 15:55 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2010 15:08 Bill Murray wrote:On March 17 2010 15:03 johnnyspazz wrote:the mafia wouldn't let me run if i was on their team. why not? i don't quite understand this reasoning Because I am a fuckup. On August 20 2009 10:18 Foolishness wrote:On August 20 2009 10:17 SugiuraMidori wrote:Foolish.. you always love to complain about bandwagons... are you perhaps against losing one of your red friends?  There's a good reason why I love to complain about them. Surely you can see it my way no? I am against losing innocent townies. Come save me, Foolishness. Unfortunately I'm about to lose a green friend, not a red one.
Thanks. I've got a better style post upcoming.
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BloodyC0bbler Votes: 8 Vivi57 tree.hugger Incognito Zona Fulgrim Iaaan johnnyspazz CynanMachae
Incognito Votes: 7 Versatile Abenson XeliN Fishball madnessman JeeJee Bill Murray
It is a critical point of the game. I am trying to help you all. You can drastically improve your chances with 4/17 or 3/17. You have a 0% chance of 3/17 if you lynch me. I am a town member. I hope the town can finally see that since I am trying to be helpful, and to want what is best and good for this town. I'd love to win.
If I was looking for a red, I would definitely be looking at where people voted, posts someone has made, and where the person was aligned. To me, it looks like it would be someone who was voting for L. The fact that L claims that mafia won't vote to try to get someone into office, and was generally mad about losing the election in which he really wanted pardoner while scummily claiming he wanted to be mayor. L was the true mayoral candidate, and tries to clear his name forcing Malongo to die since L posted right after Malongo's candidacy that he was probably the Mafia candidate. He would be cleared of the format, and made into Godfather by his team where he was the only veteran. L would then proceed to pick Mad Hatter because it is only accounted for posthumously. Malongo could say that the epic Chilean Earthquake devastated his IP and voila he would at most have a 1 game ban if any at all depending on the host. L then goes on to say RC me, Bus me, Focus on me I'm clean, and would have been saying "I pardon my red buddies." If I hadn't been a thorn in his side for that one, too. Glad that wasn't a vivi 2.0. By confusing the people in office and bein the one privately pming them whispering in their ears like wormtongue he can abuse them into doing what he wants them to do. He is being very manipulative having you all kill a person who is trying to help the town win moreso than any other player!!!!!!! Don't let him manipulate you. Be strong. He's wanted to kill me all game people! The Mafia will try to hide my post, trust me, this will get spammed to death if not tonight, before everyone wakes up. L is over 5% likely to be mafia, (1/18) and I am 0%. This is the only knowledge I have to impart to you all. I understand that you all believe that people say this no matter what their color, but I am seriously not a liar. I have been blue once, and I roleclaimed detective day 1 in a pm... maybe night 1... yeah. lol. I don't know what I'd do as red, because i haven't been blessed with being red yet.
I say let's lynch L, see if I blow up, and then if he's red and we improve by 6% vs 4/17 (3/17), awesome. If he's really the mad hatter, we see fireworks, more awesome.
I am open to other targets, but he really does have a strong case against himself.
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+ Show Spoiler +On March 14 2010 14:17 Fishball wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 11 2010 04:26 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2010 02:48 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Do we have to wait till he puts up the day post for people to start running for office? or can we start playing before he puts it up? So you're running for Mayor again... On March 11 2010 14:13 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2010 13:45 Incognito wrote:On March 11 2010 13:28 JeeJee wrote:On March 11 2010 12:57 Fulgrim wrote:On March 11 2010 12:35 citi.zen wrote:+ Show Spoiler +From: Fulgrim [ Profile | Buddy ] Subject: Bonjour Date: 3/11/10 12:26 Tu es rouge oui? C'est la verite? J'espere que je ne mort pas la derniere nuit. Reply Keep'em coming. I'm so proud of typing that without a translator, pure skill alone. let's put my french course to work from like 7 years ago >.< you're red yes? it's the truth? something something dead last night? or next night, idk lol The last sentence is: I hope I do not die the last night. Which doesn't make too much sense...but ok. On a more serious note, suspects. Ah this thread is so...slow. As we all know, the mayor gets an autolynch. Anybody have opinions? I'd start off by prodding the people on the bottom of the activity list. Of course it could be that you haven't been around since the game has started yet. Anyway... 1. d3_crescentia 2. l10f 3. sidesprang 4. Fishball 5. Vivi57 6. Iaaan 7. Foolishness 8. ShoCkeyy 9. tree.hugger All have under 5 posts. Including pre-game posts. I'd like to hear from all of you. We can't find the mafia if you guys don't post, ya know. I'm here, just reading. Looking at all the potential shit being stirred up. On March 12 2010 04:46 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2010 03:43 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On March 11 2010 22:31 citi.zen wrote: So BC has not denied his roleclaim. The question is: why choose this weird way to come out? Seems it was a slip-up from vivi? But then why would BC trust vivi without a rolecheeck??? BC is a smart player who knows the importance of dts in this game. Why risk it all for one vote??? It makes no sense if BC really is dt to take that risk in a pm.
Any comments BC?? Especially in a game where as incog stated earlier (believe it was him) that the big names this game are me, L, incog himself, malongo, foolishness. No, it was L. On March 13 2010 10:29 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2010 10:16 Bill Murray wrote: If you were green you would be like "what do i have to hide?", but that's not how you're being. Takes off pants. *Moons* On March 13 2010 11:31 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2010 11:00 flamewheel91 wrote: At this point, I don't believe I can put up the night post since the projected winner, BloodyC0bbler, has not sent in his lynch candidate. When he does the night post will go up. Night 1 will run from whenever I get the post up to 9:00 p.m. tomorrow (Saturday). Sorry for the delay. Woops, posted in voting thread. Show nested quote +On March 13 2010 11:30 Fishball wrote: BC is not on MSN, so he is probably working now. Night shift. Also, only severe warning for d3? I thought this game was hardcore. On March 13 2010 12:26 Fishball wrote: Curious question L, how old are you.
On March 13 2010 16:58 Fishball wrote: Uh, why the hell would you lynch JeeJee.
Fishball's archive post is devoid of any content. He, to me, isn't putting forth nearly as much effort as a lot of other people within this game are. I get a general feeling that he is being "coached" by a "veteran".
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oh, really? Fishy.......ball
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I pmed you one time, quit making it look like I am actively pming you.
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there should be a rule on quoting 27 lines of text and only providing a little over 2
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On March 16 2010 11:18 Zona wrote: Also, I want everyone to keep this in mind when analyzing how people interacted with Malongo.
Since he was inactive, he was an ideal person for the mafia to sacrifice to burnish their own townie credentials.
On March 12 2010 16:00 Malongo wrote:So after reading the full thread i just got convinced of some things: A) Balance wise, it is more than likely that one of the runners is mafia. This has happened many times in terms of distribution, for those that doesnt know rol distribution is not completely random. B) Having a mafia in the office is a lot worse this game imo. At least other times/games mafia member in the office was reduced to a)troll the town as long as he could, b) waste any resources given to him. Normally this ends up with a lynch day 2~4 because it gets plain obvious when the mafia official is not doing what he meant when he was running and because theres not that much he can do to hurt the town. However, with 2 KP and noclue setup it is highly unlikely that a mafia official can be spotted that quickly. C) Blues should be running for the office. However this is not completely sure in this case, since Incognito, BC and L are good enough to run even with a less powerful rol /green or vet/ D) Activity is the only thing we can get other than votes to nail mafia. In this case im afraid a lot of players have misunderstood active with "posting". As long as we spam less important stuff it is as if we werent posting. Not trying to be a douche, but please try to be as accurate and put some weight in the posting. This is critical to help the town identify if you are really trying to help or just posting to note that you are not inactive. E) There are various nonvoters up to now. This is scary as hell combined with A. With just 1~3 mafia in this list we are going to get in trouble. 8. johnnyspazz 10. sidesprang 17. d3_crescentia 18. L 21. Foolishness 25. BloodyC0bbler So with all these things im proposing myself to fill one of the spots. Malongo is Running For Officials My platform is based on:A) I have a "decent" skill at reading the strategy from the mafia. This has been agreed from various veteran players. Most of the time i work on my own private analisys that i put up when it is better for the town. B) I feel im very valuable at the middle~late game state. I ve came up with some half decent plays like the ghetto checklists, and other stuff from the setup. C) Im a town player in the sense that i ve always tried my best to support the town. If it is good for the town to sacrifice me ill do it gladly.
D) I always come up with this at the begginnig of the game: first day is more than anything a random start, where we cant be sure about anything. If my process is right there is at least one mafia in those 3. That is a high chance that we will put a good mafia player in the office. By adding myself at this stage im giving another chance to the town since it is quite unlikely that there are 2 or 3 mafias running in a group of 4. Thats it. I expect my late run doesnt look really that weird since it is likely that i dont get votes anyways 
On March 12 2010 16:12 L wrote: Oh hey, good of you to join the party.
Did you finally get picked for the mafia team? If not, are you claiming blue by running? Who would you kill if voted mayor and who would you like to get voted in if you can't get in?
Sleep time, but I EXPECT ANSWERS.
Malongo admits he won't be getting any votes. If he knew he wasn't going to be getting any votes, and was admitting that there could be 2 mafia candidates out of 4, I have to believe that the real reason he was running was to hide the candidacy of the Godfather, and clear their name. It would be easy to do this through sacrificing himself, which he says in his post that he doesn't mind doing. He is an old veteran, and a lot of veterans have learned that they can get more out of sacrificing theirself with a cool play than staying alive and being wasteful. I feel like this is what he was doing. In this format, he can just say that there's simply no way that the mafia will run 2 candidates. I'm fairly certain he has even said this.
On March 12 2010 09:39 l10f wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2010 09:27 madnessman wrote:
"I originally dismissed L as well for his hoity-toity posting, but after reading his posts more closely, I am pretty convinced he's town-aligned. "... "My personal guess would be that he's vigil/bus driver. " I also think L is town.
Two people trying to make it look as if they have reason to support someone who has had the only red voting for them. They are hopping on the bandwagon blindly... pretty scummy behavior.
IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THEIR VOTING PATTERN Neither one of them voted to lynch Malongo AT ANY TIME.
One of them voted for Abenson, and one of them voted for ~OpZ~.
On March 17 2010 19:26 madnessman wrote: Where you been, man? Also, l10f, all you've contributed lately is telling flamewheel how he formatted the coloring in his post wrong. (lol). I do realize though that last game, you were a blue and you were awfully quiet as well. But as Zona said before he died (RIP Zona!), keeping quiet only hinders the town in a game where there are no behavioral clues. So post your thoughts on what's going on?
On March 17 2010 20:48 l10f wrote: I like to work with people that I believe are town aligned and experienced and only speak out if I'm called upon or people are doing something that I think is stupid (i.e. lynching redtooth when QS was a confirmed sumiyoshi).
Also, how did he know that l10f was going to respond? It's like they have been in on it together. Both of these posts above have been back to back posts, and I feel like they are incriminating even if they do not appear to be so on the outside. I feel as if these two are acting way too buddy-buddy with one another to merit their being green. I feel like they are aligned together on a red team. MadnessMan was horror stricken whenever L didn't get pardoner. Both voted for L with Malongo.
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Incognito, I've stated literally 5 times that I was f5ing the thread and would have voted for Malongo if he wasn't going to be modkilled. drop that, please.
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Oh, you were talking to Xelin there
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On March 18 2010 00:48 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2010 11:18 Zona wrote: Also, I want everyone to keep this in mind when analyzing how people interacted with Malongo.
Since he was inactive, he was an ideal person for the mafia to sacrifice to burnish their own townie credentials. Show nested quote +On March 12 2010 16:00 Malongo wrote:So after reading the full thread i just got convinced of some things: A) Balance wise, it is more than likely that one of the runners is mafia. This has happened many times in terms of distribution, for those that doesnt know rol distribution is not completely random. B) Having a mafia in the office is a lot worse this game imo. At least other times/games mafia member in the office was reduced to a)troll the town as long as he could, b) waste any resources given to him. Normally this ends up with a lynch day 2~4 because it gets plain obvious when the mafia official is not doing what he meant when he was running and because theres not that much he can do to hurt the town. However, with 2 KP and noclue setup it is highly unlikely that a mafia official can be spotted that quickly. C) Blues should be running for the office. However this is not completely sure in this case, since Incognito, BC and L are good enough to run even with a less powerful rol /green or vet/ D) Activity is the only thing we can get other than votes to nail mafia. In this case im afraid a lot of players have misunderstood active with "posting". As long as we spam less important stuff it is as if we werent posting. Not trying to be a douche, but please try to be as accurate and put some weight in the posting. This is critical to help the town identify if you are really trying to help or just posting to note that you are not inactive. E) There are various nonvoters up to now. This is scary as hell combined with A. With just 1~3 mafia in this list we are going to get in trouble. 8. johnnyspazz 10. sidesprang 17. d3_crescentia 18. L 21. Foolishness 25. BloodyC0bbler So with all these things im proposing myself to fill one of the spots. Malongo is Running For Officials My platform is based on:A) I have a "decent" skill at reading the strategy from the mafia. This has been agreed from various veteran players. Most of the time i work on my own private analisys that i put up when it is better for the town. B) I feel im very valuable at the middle~late game state. I ve came up with some half decent plays like the ghetto checklists, and other stuff from the setup. C) Im a town player in the sense that i ve always tried my best to support the town. If it is good for the town to sacrifice me ill do it gladly.
D) I always come up with this at the begginnig of the game: first day is more than anything a random start, where we cant be sure about anything. If my process is right there is at least one mafia in those 3. That is a high chance that we will put a good mafia player in the office. By adding myself at this stage im giving another chance to the town since it is quite unlikely that there are 2 or 3 mafias running in a group of 4. Thats it. I expect my late run doesnt look really that weird since it is likely that i dont get votes anyways  Show nested quote +On March 12 2010 16:12 L wrote: Oh hey, good of you to join the party.
Did you finally get picked for the mafia team? If not, are you claiming blue by running? Who would you kill if voted mayor and who would you like to get voted in if you can't get in?
Sleep time, but I EXPECT ANSWERS. Malongo admits he won't be getting any votes. If he knew he wasn't going to be getting any votes, and was admitting that there could be 2 mafia candidates out of 4, I have to believe that the real reason he was running was to hide the candidacy of the Godfather, and clear their name. It would be easy to do this through sacrificing himself, which he says in his post that he doesn't mind doing. He is an old veteran, and a lot of veterans have learned that they can get more out of sacrificing theirself with a cool play than staying alive and being wasteful. I feel like this is what he was doing. In this format, he can just say that there's simply no way that the mafia will run 2 candidates. I'm fairly certain he has even said this. Show nested quote +On March 12 2010 09:39 l10f wrote:On March 12 2010 09:27 madnessman wrote:
"I originally dismissed L as well for his hoity-toity posting, but after reading his posts more closely, I am pretty convinced he's town-aligned. "... "My personal guess would be that he's vigil/bus driver. " I also think L is town. Two people trying to make it look as if they have reason to support someone who has had the only red voting for them. They are hopping on the bandwagon blindly... pretty scummy behavior. IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THEIR VOTING PATTERNNeither one of them voted to lynch Malongo AT ANY TIME. One of them voted for Abenson, and one of them voted for ~OpZ~. Show nested quote +On March 17 2010 19:26 madnessman wrote: Where you been, man? Also, l10f, all you've contributed lately is telling flamewheel how he formatted the coloring in his post wrong. (lol). I do realize though that last game, you were a blue and you were awfully quiet as well. But as Zona said before he died (RIP Zona!), keeping quiet only hinders the town in a game where there are no behavioral clues. So post your thoughts on what's going on? Show nested quote +On March 17 2010 20:48 l10f wrote: I like to work with people that I believe are town aligned and experienced and only speak out if I'm called upon or people are doing something that I think is stupid (i.e. lynching redtooth when QS was a confirmed sumiyoshi). Also, how did he know that l10f was going to respond? It's like they have been in on it together. Both of these posts above have been back to back posts, and I feel like they are incriminating even if they do not appear to be so on the outside. I feel as if these two are acting way too buddy-buddy with one another to merit their being green. I feel like they are aligned together on a red team. MadnessMan was horror stricken whenever L didn't get pardoner. Both voted for L with Malongo.
The reason they are more suspicious is in the last paragraph, here.
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Also, the fact that they didn't ever want malongo killed when it was obvious to me he was red.
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Also, there's no way in hell anyone can know Incognito's alignment. He doesn't even know it himself. He's neutral. He could be like the secret nazi, he could be town aligned, or he could be mafia aligned. There's really no way that anyone can know this.
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