• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:56
CEST 06:56
KST 13:56
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4)5TL.net Map Contest #21 - Finalists4Team TLMC #5: Vote to Decide Ladder Maps!0[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Mile High15
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sept 29-Oct 5): MaxPax triples up2PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition245.0.15 Balance Patch Notes (Live version)105$2,500 WardiTV TL Map Contest Tournament 151Stellar Fest: StarCraft II returns to Canada11
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.15 Balance Patch Notes (Live version) Weekly Cups (Sept 29-Oct 5): MaxPax triples up PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition ZvT - Army Composition - Slow Lings + Fast Banes Stellar Fest: StarCraft II returns to Canada
Tourneys
Tenacious Turtle Tussle Stellar Fest $2,500 WardiTV TL Map Contest Tournament 15 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LANified! 37: Groundswell, BYOC LAN, Nov 28-30 2025
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment Mutation # 493 Quick Killers Mutation # 492 Get Out More Mutation # 491 Night Drive
Brood War
General
RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site BW General Discussion Question regarding recent ASL Bisu vs Larva game BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Ro8 Day 4 [ASL20] Ro8 Day 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Proposed Glossary of Strategic Uncertainty Current Meta TvZ Theorycraft - Improving on State of the Art 9 hatch vs 10 hatch vs 12 hatch
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
UK Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts The Automated Ban List BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final
Blogs
[AI] From Comfort Women to …
Peanutsc
Mental Health In Esports: Wo…
TrAiDoS
Try to reverse getting fired …
Garnet
[ASL20] Players bad at pi…
pullarius1
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1026 users

TL Mafia Ban List - Page 152

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 150 151 152 153 154 180 Next
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
December 20 2012 15:26 GMT
#3021
If you think that, plus considering you disruptive, means I hate you, you may be setting a new record for thin skin among my detractors.

Well, not really, but you're getting well above the 50th percentile.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 20 2012 17:37 GMT
#3022
by JH standards that's a loving caress and a warm whisper in the ear
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 20 2012 20:42 GMT
#3023
you are one of my detractors not the other way around
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
December 20 2012 21:17 GMT
#3024
Saying I hate you based on evidence that's tenuous at best and irrational at worst is specifically the sort of characterization a detractor would make.

I guess if it helps you sleep at night, keep thinking whatever you like about me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
December 20 2012 23:04 GMT
#3025
Can we have this conversation elsewhere?

At this point we're not discussing a ban we just talking about who wants to hug or hit Kush. I don't see any value in this conversation continuing, some hosts feel he is disruptive and some don't. He can play in some games but not in others. So it goes.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
December 21 2012 02:04 GMT
#3026
I have never ever had a problem with kush's play in any of the many games I have played in with him. It seems like he made a bad decision in terms of misusing/misunderstanding his role in chrono.

If he used his role poorly then he should not be banned IMO. Banning for poor play is a slippery slope that should not be risked.

Although I am not sure if this ban list is even active anymore, the OP has not been updated in 7 months. If it is not active it should cease to be used and hosts should allow/disallow players at their own discretion.

the OP has not been updated in 7 months.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 21 2012 02:29 GMT
#3027
On December 21 2012 11:04 DarthPunk wrote:
Although I am not sure if this ban list is even active anymore, the OP has not been updated in 7 months. If it is not active it should cease to be used and hosts should allow/disallow players at their own discretion.

the OP has not been updated in 7 months.


I think we've been fortunate enough to not have a major incident in quite a while and people have gotten better at sitting out their ban before trying to join another game. I do still like having an up to date list though when hosting. I'm a lot more comfortable not allowing a player play because they broke rule X, rather than deciding who can play based on personal preference. Perhaps we can change the thread owner to a shared account such as the TL Library user if flamewheel could use some help?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
December 21 2012 02:37 GMT
#3028
kush is a fucking boss.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 21 2012 03:01 GMT
#3029
Kush was not banned for poor play. I have made that clear.
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
December 21 2012 06:25 GMT
#3030
On December 21 2012 12:01 GreYMisT wrote:
Kush was not banned for poor play. I have made that clear.


I can't find the explanation in this thread? What exactly was he banned for? if you don't mind my asking.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
December 21 2012 06:30 GMT
#3031
On December 21 2012 11:29 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 11:04 DarthPunk wrote:
Although I am not sure if this ban list is even active anymore, the OP has not been updated in 7 months. If it is not active it should cease to be used and hosts should allow/disallow players at their own discretion.

the OP has not been updated in 7 months.


I think we've been fortunate enough to not have a major incident in quite a while and people have gotten better at sitting out their ban before trying to join another game. I do still like having an up to date list though when hosting. I'm a lot more comfortable not allowing a player play because they broke rule X, rather than deciding who can play based on personal preference. Perhaps we can change the thread owner to a shared account such as the TL Library user if flamewheel could use some help?


Yeah. Regular updates to the ban list would be more appropriate than adhering to something that clearly isn't functioning in it's present state.

For example. Kush's ban. He was made to sit out some games but not others. Some people allow him in their games, some don't. There was no formal punishment in this thread and he was not added to the ban list. Some people agreed with his ban some didn't and there has not been any real resolution on kush's status as far as I can see.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 21 2012 06:58 GMT
#3032
On December 21 2012 15:30 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 11:29 kitaman27 wrote:
On December 21 2012 11:04 DarthPunk wrote:
Although I am not sure if this ban list is even active anymore, the OP has not been updated in 7 months. If it is not active it should cease to be used and hosts should allow/disallow players at their own discretion.

the OP has not been updated in 7 months.


I think we've been fortunate enough to not have a major incident in quite a while and people have gotten better at sitting out their ban before trying to join another game. I do still like having an up to date list though when hosting. I'm a lot more comfortable not allowing a player play because they broke rule X, rather than deciding who can play based on personal preference. Perhaps we can change the thread owner to a shared account such as the TL Library user if flamewheel could use some help?


Yeah. Regular updates to the ban list would be more appropriate than adhering to something that clearly isn't functioning in it's present state.

For example. Kush's ban. He was made to sit out some games but not others. Some people allow him in their games, some don't. There was no formal punishment in this thread and he was not added to the ban list. Some people agreed with his ban some didn't and there has not been any real resolution on kush's status as far as I can see.



Thats because, for the most part, I prefer to handle things on my own. If a player bothers me he will be handled by me. I will state in this thread what occurred so hosts can make their own informed decisions. I have no need to beg the ban list when I have power over my own games.
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
December 21 2012 07:26 GMT
#3033
On December 21 2012 15:58 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 15:30 DarthPunk wrote:
On December 21 2012 11:29 kitaman27 wrote:
On December 21 2012 11:04 DarthPunk wrote:
Although I am not sure if this ban list is even active anymore, the OP has not been updated in 7 months. If it is not active it should cease to be used and hosts should allow/disallow players at their own discretion.

the OP has not been updated in 7 months.


I think we've been fortunate enough to not have a major incident in quite a while and people have gotten better at sitting out their ban before trying to join another game. I do still like having an up to date list though when hosting. I'm a lot more comfortable not allowing a player play because they broke rule X, rather than deciding who can play based on personal preference. Perhaps we can change the thread owner to a shared account such as the TL Library user if flamewheel could use some help?


Yeah. Regular updates to the ban list would be more appropriate than adhering to something that clearly isn't functioning in it's present state.

For example. Kush's ban. He was made to sit out some games but not others. Some people allow him in their games, some don't. There was no formal punishment in this thread and he was not added to the ban list. Some people agreed with his ban some didn't and there has not been any real resolution on kush's status as far as I can see.



Thats because, for the most part, I prefer to handle things on my own. If a player bothers me he will be handled by me. I will state in this thread what occurred so hosts can make their own informed decisions. I have no need to beg the ban list when I have power over my own games.


Ok. So how are hosts supposed to make informed decisions when you haven't stated in this thread what happened? Like, I don't want to stir up shit. But the only things I have heard about it are hearsay and some things that kush said. There really isn't an explanation here by which other hosts can make up their own minds. You don't need to beg the ban list for your own games certainly. But kush has been forced to sit out games due to the rule set established by this ban list, so it only seems fair that his case gets to be heard in full and reviewed by his peers.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18077 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 13:22:04
December 21 2012 13:16 GMT
#3034
For DarthPunk: all you needed to do was click on Chrono Trigger mafia and look through Greymist's filter instead of complaining here that you don't think Kush should be banned for something you clearly have not read up on.

Here is the ban:
On November 23 2012 02:15 GreYMisT wrote:
Kushm4sta (Cyrus) Has both died in humiliation and has been MODKILLED

+ Show Spoiler [reasons] +
Realizing you have RL issues is one thing, but just saying "well im not going to have time" or "I feel sick" and then blowing your 1 shot ability becasue why not WHEN I HAVE 4 REPLACEMENTS WAITING TO /IN is simply unacceptable.

Thus Kushm4sta will be banned from all games of mine in the future and I will seek ban list action against him after the conclusion of this game.


+ Show Spoiler [Role Pm] +
Welcome To Chrono Trigger Mafia! You are Cyrus. You are a loyal knight and a hero of 600 AD, sworn to do whatever it takes to defend your king and queen. At any point, once per game, you may choose to unleash your finishing move, Nirvana Strike. You may activate this by typing ##Nirvana Strike: Player Name in the thread. At this point, no passive or active abilities or states will affect you or your target. If your target has a lower % of health than you do, you will kill the target instantly. If you are tied or have a lower % health, you will be humiliated and die. You also have a 1 shot passive self protection ability. If you are about to die the most damaging ability that is targeting you will be prevented. If this prevention would save you, you will automatically use Nirvana strike on the source of that damage (this passive will not use your Nirvana strike charge). You have 600 max HP. You win with the town.


Let this serve as a warning to everyone. Don't toy with me.


And here the explanation is a bit better worded (from Paranoia signups):
On November 23 2012 07:05 GreYMisT wrote:
Its not that you were lying that was the problem. Its that instead of notifying me that you didn't feel up to the game so I could put in 1 of my replacements who would LOVE to play, you decided to just say "screw it". Its a disrespect to me, the host and creator of your role, a disrespect to the spot that will never be played or filled by a replacement, and a disrespect to the other players in the game who have had their experience worsened due to your actions.


EDIT: I have played with Kush and found him to be perfectly acceptable in ACME. He clearly wasn't in CT, but he has (been forced to) sat out all games starting until CT ended, so hosts have been self-policing perfectly fine without the use of the ban thread. In the future, I would not have a problem letting Kush into a game, but every host is given full freedom to stop players from joining their games. If I was Greymist, I would probably also feel differently about Kush.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
December 21 2012 13:41 GMT
#3035
Well, if the intended function of this list is to inform others then I don't understand why the explanation wasn't simply copied across as you have done. rather than every potential reader of this thread in the future having to look up that particular post in a game as large as chrono.

It was my understanding that he misread his role and thought he was a suicide vig and that going in with that assumption he decided to trade one for one.

If that is the case and he simply misread his role PM and has been fine in countless other games then he shouldn't be banned IMO.

If he suicides for the sole purpose of leaving the game in full knowledge of the failure of his role he should be banned.

It is the intent behind the action rather than the consequence that is important. After all, isn't this about reforming/weeding out toxic players rather than a means of vengeance by the aggrieved party?

Anyway, that is all I have to say about the matter.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 21 2012 14:01 GMT
#3036
On December 21 2012 22:41 DarthPunk wrote:
Well, if the intended function of this list is to inform others then I don't understand why the explanation wasn't simply copied across as you have done. rather than every potential reader of this thread in the future having to look up that particular post in a game as large as chrono.

It was my understanding that he misread his role and thought he was a suicide vig and that going in with that assumption he decided to trade one for one.

If that is the case and he simply misread his role PM and has been fine in countless other games then he shouldn't be banned IMO.

If he suicides for the sole purpose of leaving the game in full knowledge of the failure of his role he should be banned.

It is the intent behind the action rather than the consequence that is important. After all, isn't this about reforming/weeding out toxic players rather than a means of vengeance by the aggrieved party?

Anyway, that is all I have to say about the matter.

Kush intentionally suicided, misread his PM, and complained that he was too sick to play. Once dead, he attempted to almost immediately signup for another game. His actions were completely unacceptable. I understand that you may not have all the facts, but they are there.

I don't believe an open license for hosts to ban Kush is reasonable but I also don't think Kush fully acknowledges the severity of his actions, so a formal punishment is still outstanding.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 21 2012 16:33 GMT
#3037
For 4 days around thanksgiving I had this thing where I was super sick and felt terrible at night then in the morning I felt way better, only to become really sick again at night. That's why I signed up for a game in the morning (even though that would have been a shit idea because I felt like shit soon after, but that was the first night of it so I didn't know that at the time)

I knew there was a chance of me dying but I did not intentionally suicide. I thought if I had more hp than marv and if he was scum, then I would do it and everyone would be like ooo kush what an ownzor. If he had more hp than me I wouldn't have to deal with this game anymore. If we was town and he died then that was ok too because he said something in the thread that pissed me off. Therefore it seemed kind of like a win-win scenario. I did have a fever and I was not thinking that clearly.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 21 2012 16:43 GMT
#3038
On December 22 2012 01:33 kushm4sta wrote:
For 4 days around thanksgiving I had this thing where I was super sick and felt terrible at night then in the morning I felt way better, only to become really sick again at night. That's why I signed up for a game in the morning (even though that would have been a shit idea because I felt like shit soon after, but that was the first night of it so I didn't know that at the time)

I knew there was a chance of me dying but I did not intentionally suicide. I thought if I had more hp than marv and if he was scum, then I would do it and everyone would be like ooo kush what an ownzor. If he had more hp than me I wouldn't have to deal with this game anymore. If we was town and he died then that was ok too because he said something in the thread that pissed me off. Therefore it seemed kind of like a win-win scenario. I did have a fever and I was not thinking that clearly.


I don't know how many more times I have to say this. Its the fact that you blew your ability because you were done with the game INSTEAD OF asking me to replace out so someone else could enjoy the game in your stead.

If you cannot see why that is wrong then I don't know what to say to you anymore.
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
December 23 2012 01:59 GMT
#3039
lol grey
You gave him a role and he has every right to use it how he wants to use it within the rules you set for the game.(I dont see him breaking any rules) you cant penalize him for using his role in a way that you dont like. Its his choice not yours. He clearly didnt want to be replaced cause he wanted to see the results of his choice he made with his role. Whats your problem?
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 23 2012 02:06 GMT
#3040
It's been a while since coag has been banned. Lets ban him too.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Prev 1 150 151 152 153 154 180 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 6h 4m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SpeCial 12
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 1420
Larva 1086
zelot 98
Icarus 8
Dota 2
monkeys_forever815
capcasts300
League of Legends
JimRising 796
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K726
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor148
Other Games
summit1g9273
C9.Mang0310
Maynarde118
Mew2King42
RuFF_SC224
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick982
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH189
• practicex 31
• davetesta12
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1368
• Stunt514
Upcoming Events
Map Test Tournament
6h 4m
PiGosaur Monday
19h 4m
Map Test Tournament
1d 6h
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
1d 18h
The PondCast
2 days
Map Test Tournament
2 days
Map Test Tournament
3 days
OSC
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
[ Show More ]
Map Test Tournament
4 days
OSC
4 days
[BSL 2025] Weekly
4 days
Safe House 2
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Map Test Tournament
5 days
OSC
5 days
IPSL
5 days
dxtr13 vs Napoleon
Doodle vs OldBoy
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 20 Team Wars
Maestros of the Game
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
Acropolis #4 - TS2
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
WardiTV TLMC #15
EC S1
ESL Pro League S22
Frag Blocktober 2025
Urban Riga Open #1
FERJEE Rush 2025
Birch Cup 2025
DraculaN #2
LanDaLan #3
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.