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On February 16 2010 09:53 Fulgrim wrote: So you took it away from him because you realized that having an elected official that careless would be horrible for the town? Or because you wanted him to be rolechecked? No I switched because I don't like Day 1 roleclaimers that can't be verified in general. It doesn't matter what I did in those 5 minutes because I was never going to keep my vote on L. You're making a big deal about the wrong thing. | ||
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I went from Redtooth -> L - > Redtooth in the span of a few minutes and anyone reading this thread knows I wasn't going to vote for L seriously. How can you continue to question me but NOT look at the people that tipped over Redtooth in becoming Mayor? Come on, you can't say with a straight face I'm more suspect than yourself in that regard. | ||
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they see me rollin, they hatin | ||
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Maybe if you people just let me be instead of calling me out on ridiculous "arguments" we wouldn't be having this problem? L has been far from reasonable and I've already showed how. But keep skipping my posts and saying I'm not contributing when clearly I have been. | ||
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They see me rollin! | ||
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Go back to when he claimed Medic. I switched my vote off. Then I switch back on, with Emp and BM both voting for him also. With EMP flipping green it's not 100% certain that it was a Mafia split that tipped him over. If that's the case that means looking at the entire vote list, more accurately Bill Murray who was the deciding vote would "solve" your scenario. It would actually look more suspicious if Redtooth and BM had loose ties, aka barely talking to each other in the thread as that's surely a common mafia tell when none of them are in danger. However, I'm more interested in the early voters. With 2 Mafia families neither can wait around for swing votes unless they felt their candidates were strong enough to get those votes early on their own. | ||
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On February 16 2010 12:32 Malongo wrote: I disagree here Ace. From mafia pov its direct that knowing all the bgs-> confirmed townies or at least few chances of mafia from the other family + 3 votes is huge. Think about this: this game is more likely to go until 20 players remain unless one family is absolutely demolishing the other. In this case having a mafia having 3 votes and clearing up the targets with the bgs list is lot better than 2 pardons overall. Having a mafia mayor is a huge advantage against the other mafia, having a pardoner *may* save one of your foes but its not like the other mafia cant target him anyways next night. As you see pardoner <<<< mayor for a mafia player. Being that redtooth doesn't have a large group of support being Mayor isn't that great even with 3 votes. Pardoner on the other hand saves your faam from a lynch and forces the other Mafia to have to hit the guy. Who knows what the Pardoner can convince the town about his fellow scum in that time frame. That's a sweet trade. The only way I'd say Mafia Mayor > Pardoner is IF they have BGs they never have to reveal and that don't get killed. Otherwise there's no power play there imo. Either way I'm glad he got it over L. Yay. So the point is, what is redtooth going to do about his claim¿ The best way to set this up is : Redtooth self claimed medic declares his target for protection before the night. This way the other family /assuming redtooth is mafia/ has the chance to hit that target and unreveal redtooth. It is win for that family because then they force the town to lynch him if he turns nonmedic, and it is win for that family in case the target survives because they can play knowing that redtooth is not in the other mafia. Thoughts¿ This scenario dies under 2 conditions: 1.) You need to know that the target is going to get HIT in the first place, not protected by Medics and isn't a Veteran. If the player gets hit, we need to know which of these conditions was satisfied. Then you have to verify the guy that got hit is pro-town since he'd have no incentive to lie. 2.) Target gets dbl tapped. If this happens and Redtooth is indeed a Medic he'd look guilty. We'd have no idea if the person he protected was hit by multiple people. In fact knowing the idea is to confirm Redtooth via this way why wouldn't they want to stack the hit, or take the chance the other family sends the hit too? It's not an easy thing to confirm him without Vigilantes since our evidence comes from scum who I'm sure don't want to help us in any way. Also the possible loss for the town is a waste of protection if he is legit. If he isn't oh well, let's lynch him! | ||
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Seriously, with so many people accusing me of being scum with no proof that actually makes it more likely I'm town. | ||
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Also don't you think it's odd that multiple people have tried to get me killed already? That surely has to raise some alarms right? | ||
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