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On February 23 2010 17:47 Malongo wrote:
A) Vote quickstricker today .
B) I ask Caller to not to vote if he is town alligned. You see, Ver and i had doubts about him and at this point he has been useless. This way he can clear up next suspect and let us move on the list
C) Vote for double lynch.
Erm, he has already publicly admit he is Mafia. Gambino to be specific. Whether it is a lie or not, is another story.
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ShoCkeyy was brought up before already.
It solidifies his position as one of the prime suspects.
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On February 24 2010 11:27 johnnyspazz wrote:
would you say that l10f's killer could also be shockeyy? who else could it be?
If you want vague connections, [NyC]HoBbes could work.
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On February 24 2010 11:58 johnnyspazz wrote:
how is that a vague connection? l10f died by electricity and shockeyy is shockeyy
Is your reading comprehension that bad?
I said, Hobbes that I brought up could be a vague connection.
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On February 24 2010 12:19 Malongo wrote:
So i came up to this:
It is for the best interest of the town to lynch tree.hugger today. First of he was to be lynched last night but "somehow" the voting was turned into redtooth impalation. So given that Quickstricker claimed that he wont vote today to force a modkill it is fair to assume that:
- Town has 3 kills total (counting 1 today 2 tomorrow)
- If we kill quickstricker we lose the chance to take his claim to our advantage
- If we lynch tree.hugger and quickstricker votes we can lynch him tomorrow.
- We can take a lot of information about tree.huggers allignment. (namely L, decafchicken, amber and laaan, players that look mafia to me).
Some things:
-Why hasnt gambino hit some gambino fake claimers¿ Guys claiming to be gambino CANT be Yumiyumi because gambino family would have killed them already.
-Where are our clue analizers¿
So please lets change our kill tonight. We can get Quickstricker tomorrow if he votes, but we win an extra kill (and it would be great if it is a miller kill) by killing someone else.
Im changing to tree.hugger and i expect a lot of resistance from the Yumiyumi family
I am re-quoting myself on page 109.
On February 23 2010 13:14 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2010 13:05 Fishball wrote:
Sumiyoshi I can understand, but if Gambino is just killing town for shits and giggles, then well, this game is kinda meaningless as they are not playing to win.
Just wanted to elaborate on this a bit more. Gambino can argue they are playing for their victory indeed, as they just want to kill off Town first and go head to head with Sumiyoshi. Well, this is definitely possible, but is it the best way to do so? After already down 3 more members than Sumiyoshi and 1 KP less? Another possible scenario, assuming Gambino and Sumiyoshi are temporarily united to kill off the remaning 15 townies. Is it guaranteed that one would not back stab the other? Especially with one party already having a clear advantage?
Seeing that you seemed to miss "certain" parts of the thread.
On February 23 2010 23:09 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2010 17:47 Malongo wrote:
A) Vote quickstricker today .
B) I ask Caller to not to vote if he is town alligned. You see, Ver and i had doubts about him and at this point he has been useless. This way he can clear up next suspect and let us move on the list
C) Vote for double lynch. Erm, he has already publicly admit he is Mafia. Gambino to be specific. Whether it is a lie or not, is another story.
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Ah fuck me, I meant to quote this.
On February 23 2010 14:14 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2010 13:50 sidesprang wrote:
why dont we vote for L? If quickstriker does not vote he will get modkilled and we kill L.
And its not like we will lower Sumiyoshi KP if quickstriker dies anyhow.
I will await some arguments before i vote, but for now i think this is the best plan. Few questions you should ask yourself. Actually, all townies should ask themselves the following. - What prevents QS from jumping on last second to vote? Do you trust him? - L lead to redtooth's death, does that mean he is a sure Mafia? Is he Sumiyoshi? Is he Gambino? - Compared to a confirmed Sumiyoshi DT check along with a dead DT and dead Vet vouching for the QS lynch, despite the possibility of a miller, is L a better lynching candidate? I've already brought up all my arguments in my previous posts quite a few times, so I don't want to repeat myself. In my honest opinion, L can very possibly be Mafia. It all boils down to which move next is your best move.
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On February 24 2010 13:30 Scamp wrote:
I'm glad to see there isn't a real push toward me, as it's a huge waste of time. Only person that seems to be serious about it is L, and he's clearly not sure that I'm mafia. According to him, it's either me or Chez, and Chez claimed DT so I should be hit first. According to everyone else who mentioned me, there's no proof of which family I am if I am mafia.
I like how everyone I challenged to find a link between myself and anyone else in the game has shut up on the topic. I say this to everyone: Going after me, for any reason, is a waste of time.
There is no real push towards you is because we have more "obvious" candidates running around.
A few have already brought up the sewage clue and you. Whether it is indeed you or not, that is not point for now.
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Ok, these typos/mistakes makes me want to edit my posts -_-.
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On February 24 2010 13:45 johnnyspazz wrote:
Fishball, do you trust QuickStriker to mod-kill himself?
I don't want to reply anymore, or else I'll start breaking down in tears.
機歪
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Just for the record, from now on, keep a close eye on those who tries to create another bandwagon away from the QS vote, or change to vote for another person that has no chance to be lynched. Everything that needs to be said, has already been said.
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/Flex
Chances are I will die tonight. 
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On a side note, nice try QS, lying your way out.
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On February 25 2010 09:19 L wrote:
Also, madnessman somehow voted without voting in the vote thread.
Wow there's some bad news blues going on in vote tallying town.
Read the voting thread, I replied there.
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You still need to die for your sins.
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On February 25 2010 09:27 Vivi57 wrote:
medics should try to prot gambino tonight
this means one of them should prot caller
I'm not arguing that if or if not he is Gambino, but this can't be confirmed.
On February 25 2010 09:32 Malongo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2010 09:24 L wrote:On February 25 2010 09:21 Fishball wrote:On February 25 2010 09:19 L wrote:
Also, madnessman somehow voted without voting in the vote thread.
Wow there's some bad news blues going on in vote tallying town. Read the voting thread, I replied there. So you did. If we have any medics left, I need to have a chats with you :3. lol L how you dare. You see theres no way to think you are not mafia¿ Dont trust this guy townies.
Personally, I never trusted him; Never voted for redtooth, debated johnyspazz (which is now a confirmed mafia) over Scamp.
To be honest, I trust no one unless the person is dead.
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Trust is a relevant thing.
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On February 25 2010 11:32 L wrote:
A big thanks to the two medics that contacted me. Cynan and Versatile are going to be protected tonight. Just a heads up.
Haha.
Ok, where should I start...
If what L says is true, then the two medics are either huge idiots, or he thinks the rest of us (both Town and Mafia) are idiots.
Once again, it is "ask-yourself-some-questions" time.
- L is already guilty for redtooth's death, whom is a Medic. A lot of people would like to see him dead, both Mafia and Town. Why on earth would someone, specifically Medics, would want to roleclaim to him?
- L called out and asked Medics to PM him. Two hours later, he claims that he got the Medics. Not one, but two. Isn't that a little too fast, too furious, too many?
- L claims Cynan and Versatile would be protected. This is just an unbelievably wrong in so many ways.
Let's assume two Medics did role claim to L, a shady character, within two hours. He then announces the two candidates to be protected. First off, why CynanMachae and Versatile? Both players, especially Cynan haven't been particularly active, or to word it bluntly, productive. Why them?
Secondly, who would hit a target if they are protected? (Unless Mafia really wants you dead and blow multiple hits). Why announce them? Just to create a diversion?
Thirdly, just all the above. Does this picture makes any sense at all?
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Now keep in mind, L is the Pardoner. No one can touch him unless all bodyguards are dead. The only thing he would "fear" is being lynched.
I see Malongo and some others are already proposing lynch candidates. I personally am wanting to hold off proposing anyone until further evaluation. But after L made this stunt, and considering his previous history, this is just getting flat out dumb. I was the one who suggested to stop the L lynch bandwagon, but now, he would be one of my top picks for our double lynch.
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Heads Up.
This is what I'm proposing.
Regardless of clues, if johnnyspazz survives Day 5, he should be one of our double lynch candidates for Night 5.
- He is a self proclaimed Gambino, but I'm second guessing him. He has been outspoken for the past few days, claiming "Gambino" on a lot of his posts.
- When I first debated with L, to whether lynch johnnyspazz or Scamp a few days ago, L pm'd me and tried to convince me those "Sonic the Hedgehog" clues were not directed johnnyspazz. It was a relatively suspicious move to me, as those clues are just rock solid. An entire paragraph was dedicated to that killer, not just a single line.
Clue:
Meanwhile, the second Mafioso made his way all the way across town to a small apartment on the edge of the city wall. Although the road to the residence was filled with many twists and turns, the Mafioso was able to reach the apartment without too much loss of time. The Mafioso knocked on the door, waiting for a response. Nervous, Zato-1 pulled out his shotgun, ready to shoot the intruder if he proved to be a menace. But Zato-1 could not have been more prepared for what happened next. As he opened the door, he was immediately knocked down and impaled by an array of sharp objects. The intruder was nowhere to be seen, although neighbors who have walked by the now open door have noticed a hole in the wall directly behind where Zato-1 had been killed.
- Caller has also claimed Gambino and have "argued" against johnnyspazz that one of them is lying. However there is no way to prove who is telling the lie, or if it was all just a show and they are in the same family. This is all irrelevant for now.
If I were Sumiyoshi, I would kill every single Gambino I can come across. Sumiyoshi still has one extra KP advantage over Gambino, and god knows when they would lose this advantage (They currently have 7 members; With 6 members, KP becomes 2). It would be unwise to hit the Town, unless they have no Gambino targets at all. Town has no Mad Hatters left, there are no vigilantes in this game, and there are 15 of us left. The only way town could be a threat, would be through lynching. Currently having the lead in the game, would Sumiyoshi rather kill town? or kill Gambino, to further extend their lead? Will Town always get a Sumiyoshi lynch? I would certainly hope so, but that would be unrealistic.
So back to my original proposal, lynch johnnyspazz if he survives Day 5.
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I would like to see myself live through Day 5, so I can see who is alive and who isn't and make changes accordingly, but if I die, I wouldn't be surprised at all.
I'm also going to be upfront and bring up a flaw in my proposal. If we are for sure going to lynch johnnyspazz, who might actually Gambino, would Sumiyoshi, leave him alive on purpose just to let us kill him instead? I don't know.
All I can say is, by judging johnnyspazz's survival rate so far, his behavior, and all the points I have brought up above, I like my chances.
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So the KP's are even up again.
Like I said, I'm not surprised that I'm dead, but haha @ Miller.
I would have lots to say if I weren't dead.
Good luck town. Think twice and play smart.
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I'm laughing under my face palm.
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