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On February 15 2010 12:23 SugiuraMidori wrote: Has tree.hugger ever made a post, or has it just been his vote for Ace just now? Don't think so. It'd be with his normal posting pattern, though - he wasn't overactive in the last game. | ||
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On February 15 2010 12:24 SugiuraMidori wrote: Read more... bodyguards check normally, nothing special about them as far as checks. I'm sorry, maybe I should rephrase - why was the bodyguard check suggested in the first place and/or what kind of benefit do we get from doing it? That's what I'm confused about. | ||
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On February 15 2010 13:03 tree.hugger wrote: I have a feeling that way to many of these posts, especially the ones from our veterans are tainted by personal feelings. Which is a little disappointing, because only unbiased, in-depth analysis is what is going to win us the game. And activity of course. I don't think my last stint as mayor would make me a good choice for the post, but I would suggest that the mayor be someone without the massive ego. On the contrary, people with massive egos have higher opinions of themselves and are more likely to be driven to WIN out of said egos. | ||
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Question: do town-aligned bodyguards still protect mafia-aligned officials in this game? | ||
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I thought we all knew this already -_- | ||
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On February 15 2010 13:57 SugiuraMidori wrote: I told you why I'm abstaining... they're all hooligans!! And it gets OLD to see vet players always take mayor pardoner.. what's the freaking point, let some new players learn how to play the game. Also.. edited the last post to show it in count order, and placed old post in spoiler so it's preserved. Removed the mods from the counts as well... We newer players had games before these to learn a bit... some of us did very well; others, not so much =[ Though, I will agree that they're all hooligans. | ||
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On February 15 2010 14:12 QuickStriker wrote: Hi everyone, I am back.... wow, the last time I remember I posted, I think it was page 24.... how the hell did this game went to page 44 in one day?? My last mafia game stopped and finished at page 44. This is really sad and interesting at the same time.... I seriously honestly don't want to read thru all these 20+ pages I missed.... can someone PLEASE PLEASEEEEEEE make a post of summarization and brief key points from the start of the game to now??? Please????? I really don't want to sit back, and spend an actual 3 hours reading all this when like today, I had places to go and people to do. Thank you. x_x search through the thread and look at DrH's summary post (except take it with a grain of salt, since he might be some filthy red scum again) | ||
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On February 15 2010 14:18 QuickStriker wrote: Or have his own personal bias-feedback?? Do you know what page # is that?? I mean you're talking me searching thru 45 pages to find one post.... 15 posts per page times 40 pages.... 600 posts... you could just hit 'All' and Ctrl+F for 'DoctorHelvetica' | ||
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On February 16 2010 01:47 789 wrote: Redtooth, I'm curious as to why you push L for voting so hard. How can you be sure he is non mafia? It doesn't matter as much (or at least, not in the same way) as if this were a town v mafia game. Whoever we end up electing will have the same goals - kill more mafia - so the real issue is simply KNOWING whether the mayor is mafia or not and figuring out when the most optimal time to kill him is. | ||
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On February 16 2010 03:34 citi.zen wrote: It may even be nice to have a mafia elected official, they will have to be very active and generate a long trail f posts to analyze later. In the end I think the game gets interesting once DTs build a circle of trust with grens/blues and we can really get some traction. Provided the DTs don't check mafia 2x nights in a row, or stumble across the GF - which could make life very hard. More preferable to have a mafia mayor than a pardoner, because the pardoner has that much more power in the late game to cement a mafia lead. We should watch out for this. I've been trying to wrap my mind around the bodyguard/substitution process for the last day or so, and I think DT checks on bodyguards would help to determine the nature of our officials. I'm still working out the details, though. | ||
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On February 16 2010 06:28 L wrote: Nikoner, not killing someone day 1 is generally a box of dumb. Even if it makes me look bad, its better to have 100% confirmable information for the town to work with regarding associations and whatnot. My only fear is that ZERO people have pushed back against my claim against emp, and a number of people have tagged along well after i took pains to make it clear i wasn't dropping the accusation. Either one of the mafia teams is using him as a sacrifice to get, say, ver, to look good by supporting my position, or emp is green/blue and afk like a moron. Given his vote, it would seem that he isn't afk, which leads me to believe that killing him will at least give me some information. I'm actually more worried about how much information regarding clue interpretation for this game I can glean from a red or green flip than anything else. Like i said; Grow some fucking balls. L, I'll nibble... only a bit. The clues we have regarding Emp are that his name has links to light, fire and heaven, but it seems to me that "thinking that an angel had saved the town" is more a manner of speech; a being masked by light is not necessarily the same as an angelic being. Consider BloodyCobbler's profile - plenty of blue-ish light in there, and it seems that he was eager to set you up as super-eager to lynch Ace. I'm curious as to why no one's focusing on the hyena-laughter/psychopathic noises. Madnessman feels pretty red-herring to me, but who else could it be? | ||
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On February 16 2010 06:52 SugiuraMidori wrote: So why are people voting for Chez all of a sudden? He just acts like a 12yr old kid that has yet to have his balls drop, as L so brilliantly pointed out. He also had 0 votes till now.. I think it's that we know Chez won't win; L doesn't want to support anyone and picks a joke vote, and Bill is an idiot... | ||
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On February 16 2010 07:05 L wrote: Its not a wasted vote. I'd rather have someone who i'm pretty sure is a DT in office regardless of his posting mannerisms if the alternatives are just as stupid with far less potential for being blue. But with a little less than two hours left, do you think your vote can actually make a difference? | ||
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On February 16 2010 07:20 L wrote: Instead of asking me incredibly stupid questions, why don't you think on your own for 3 seconds? Yeah, no shit I think it makes a difference, otherwise I wouldn't have voted. Well, that certainly puts everything into a whole new perspective for me. I appreciate your honestly. | ||
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On February 16 2010 08:39 Bill Murray wrote: "Mutual Chainsaw Defense, where two players defend each other by attacking each others' attackers. This is a major scumtell," so you read a wiki and suddenly decide you're the king of analysis? | ||
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On February 16 2010 09:33 Bill Murray wrote: I honestly have been suspicious of d3_crescentia, regardless of people telling me that my analysis of the moon in his signature is a red herring... 5 mentions of the moon or moonlight are too many for me to ignore... I say this for 2 reasons: First, assume he is mafia. He would then defend ace/redtooth who are obviously already mutually defending each other until it was pointed out when redtooth decided that his best course of action would be to roleclaim as opposed to defending ace. second, assume he is an idiot townie: he would be mad at me for my spamming the thread, and for lumping him in with bloodycobbler, ace, mystlord, etc. with my analysis final analysis: I do not think redtooth is mafia, but I DEFINITELY HAVE BEEN WRONG IN THE PAST LOL U KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE. I feel that d3_crescentia fell into a trap by this, and I'm pretty sure someone else agrees with me too. I feel like d3_crescentia is trying to defend ace, and they they are both mafia from the same family. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA no. | ||
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On February 16 2010 09:45 Bill Murray wrote: no on what? it's one or the other, and you aren't as strong of a player as ace so you cant just be like "im ace i have bodyarmor u cant kill me" like ace does because he knows that nothing will stick to him. i really do think you are mafia, though. because I've done none of the above. have I defended ace or redtooth at all this game? perhaps it would serve you to count the number of posts I've made that haven't been attempting to be exceedingly neutral and attempt to contribute something other than pointless name-calling. well, screw that. and, scratch that - I have been pissed off at you, and it is because you spam the thread with analysis - but only because it's bad. | ||
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Zato, in reference to this post: Imagine that I'm a mafia member from the Gambino family. I know that neither the mayor or the pardoner are from my ranks, and we have no infiltrated bodyguards. Since my family's goal is to kill all members of the Sumiyoshi family, this includes potentially killing the mayor / pardoner, because there's a good chance at least one of them is from the other family. Because they will be immune to hits due to bodyguards, getting the list of bodyguards will be quite valuable and possibly well worth the trade. I think there's a problem with this line of thinking. The mafia (S) are going to have to spend 4 KP to get themselves rid of the bodyguards before they can get rid of the officials... but that's going to take two nights of potentially wasted KP while the other family is free to strike; or one night if the other mafia decides to substitute their two guys. I *doubt* that the (G) who are in control of the office will want to substitute any guys, because it only makes them more vulnerable if such a list is leaked. If the (S) decides to substitute and while the Mayor is (G), then it will obviously make the Mayor/Pardoner more vulnerable to attack after the two town BGs have been killed or lynched, though this would be suspicious for the (S)-aligned BGs as well after two of their comrades have died. If such a substitution is made, then likely we won't be seeing any BGs die until later in the game... but then, it's still possible to find a mafia. I think the BG list should be made public. The DTs can check them, and the mafia can choose to waste their KP on them, if they so choose. Killing 2-4 people just to get to 1 seems awfully inefficient. | ||
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