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SugiuraMidori
Profile Joined May 2009
United States281 Posts
February 17 2010 02:17 GMT
#1557
On February 17 2010 10:20 LucasWoJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2010 09:50 Ver wrote:
If someone was protected they should always call out that they took a hit.

In this case, that would be me.

I took a hit last night.



Good. Just reminding everyone that this means one of three things:

a) Ver is town-aligned
b) Ver is on Mafia X and took a hit from Mafia Y
c) Ver is on Mafia X or Y who stacked hits on someone else now dead and are having Ver claim that he took a hit last night to gain admittance into townie circles.

Their likeliness or unlikeliness doesn't matter. They're all possibilities.

I'll help with the profiles in a moment.


You forgot the part where...

d) Ver is anything and had a bomb on him by BC that went off when BC was double hit but since he was medic'ed he still gets that message ;P
Foolish Brother ... If You Want to Kill Me ... Then Hate, Spite ... and Survive Pathetically. Run and Run ... and Cling Desperately to Life.
SugiuraMidori
Profile Joined May 2009
United States281 Posts
February 17 2010 02:20 GMT
#1559
Oh yeh.. and I didn't read page 78 before I made that post.. but It sure sums up page 78!
Foolish Brother ... If You Want to Kill Me ... Then Hate, Spite ... and Survive Pathetically. Run and Run ... and Cling Desperately to Life.
SugiuraMidori
Profile Joined May 2009
United States281 Posts
February 17 2010 02:28 GMT
#1564
Something no one is considering, and maybe I'm just over thinking things due to my technical background.. but can't the hole in the back of the house have been made first. Then the mafioso knocks on the door. Once the door is open, and the light between the door and that hole is blocked... let loose the guns.

At least.. last time I opened a door, when I didn't know who it was, I opened and stood to the side of the door. It's not until you're looking for something or have opened the door all the way that you are then standing broad center with it. And if you got a shotgun, it's a good thing to do.

So.. the hole is holding off some trigger due to ability to see from one side and the other.. then you can see.. then you can't.. activate trigger and fire?
Foolish Brother ... If You Want to Kill Me ... Then Hate, Spite ... and Survive Pathetically. Run and Run ... and Cling Desperately to Life.
SugiuraMidori
Profile Joined May 2009
United States281 Posts
February 17 2010 02:35 GMT
#1568
Hmm.. something else... how can we quite be linking day one and day two clues to a same person yet? Would incog really double clue someone without first doing a clue on every mafia member first?

That means we only have clues for 5 (day 2) + 4 (day 1) = 9 folks? Seems silly to link a set from day 2 to day 1 in such a manner.



And Caller... I'm trying not to be sexist against all you males, I'm sure you can do the same for me?
Foolish Brother ... If You Want to Kill Me ... Then Hate, Spite ... and Survive Pathetically. Run and Run ... and Cling Desperately to Life.
SugiuraMidori
Profile Joined May 2009
United States281 Posts
February 17 2010 02:37 GMT
#1569
On February 17 2010 11:33 Mystlord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2010 11:28 meeple wrote:
On February 17 2010 11:23 Mystlord wrote:
On February 17 2010 10:40 meeple wrote:
My analysis:

Killer 1: [r]Mystlord[/r]

Sorry man, too many fire and moonlight references for me to overlook this. Your posting hasn't especially been incriminating, but you're laying low similar to the last game...

Killer 4: [r]Phrujbaz[/r]

Sneezing and white things reference

Killer 5:[r]madnessman[/r]

Bickering and madness references

Dunno about the others yet

I don't see me for Killer 1. I don't see any moonlight references - just the contrast between light and dark. And by the way, you're missing half of the equation for the fire - the gasoline.


The gasoline does seem odd, but the dark/light reference does seem to be related to moonlight... and even if the gasoline doesn't point to you, the sharp objects in Killer 2's murder could, since the character in your profile picture seems to be throwing sharp objects.

I reread the first story, and this jumped out at me:
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As he left the scene, Ace’s attacker muttered to himself, thinking how much fun it would be to terrorize the town not only in the darkness, but also in the light.

I think that's a reference that he's terrorizing the town in day time. Could also refer to the fire, but I think the day time is far more likely. Since the first attack took place at night, I think it means that he terrorized the town at night then, and he's terrorizing the town at daytime now.

And the character in my profile is not throwing sharp things. Those crystals are part of her wings.

Sorry for the high frequency of posts. I just love having something objective I can grasp onto. Interpretation might be wrong, but let's get the facts straight first.


Wow.. so like.. uhh.. that whole "terrorizing by night and day"
Mayor anyone? First he blunders and kills Emp, a townie... now blunders and kills another, Ace?
Foolish Brother ... If You Want to Kill Me ... Then Hate, Spite ... and Survive Pathetically. Run and Run ... and Cling Desperately to Life.
SugiuraMidori
Profile Joined May 2009
United States281 Posts
February 17 2010 03:24 GMT
#1580
But Ver, I still ask, what about how you named several of the now-dead people in one of your suspect lists? What do you think happened.. mafia blindly followed you? You're on one of the mafia teams and your team followed you into the ashes and dragged the other team with you?

I'm curious on what you say about that
Foolish Brother ... If You Want to Kill Me ... Then Hate, Spite ... and Survive Pathetically. Run and Run ... and Cling Desperately to Life.
SugiuraMidori
Profile Joined May 2009
United States281 Posts
February 17 2010 19:14 GMT
#1636
As it was requested, so it shall be done:

List of post counts AFTER the Night 1 post by incognito.
I also, for everyone's convenience, removed post counts of mods and dead players.

Placed in a spoiler to avoid needless page stretching.

+ Show Spoiler +

bill murray = 54
redtooth = 24
malongo = 24
meeple = 22
l = 14
citi.zen = 13
chezinu = 12
lucaswoj = 11
789 = 11
mystlord  = 10
amber[light] = 9
madnessman = 9
sugiuramidori = 9
ver = 9
doctorhelvetica = 9
scamp = 6
vivi57 = 5
~opz~ = 5
nemy = 4
iaaan = 4
infundibulum = 4
[nyc]hobbes = 3
masterdana = 3
faronel = 3
fishball = 3
johnnyspazz = 3
caller = 3
shockeyy = 2
versatile = 2
abenson = 2
dozko = 2
foolishness = 2
xelin = 2
nikoner = 2
quickstriker = 1
shikyo = 1
phrujbaz = 1
Foolish Brother ... If You Want to Kill Me ... Then Hate, Spite ... and Survive Pathetically. Run and Run ... and Cling Desperately to Life.
SugiuraMidori
Profile Joined May 2009
United States281 Posts
February 17 2010 19:22 GMT
#1638
It is quite apparent, at least to me, that those few on the bottom with little posts, coincide a bunch with many of the people that the town has called out on.

Shikyo... Phrujbaz..

I am suspicious a bit of foolish, but then.. I always am, I'm just not as open about it like L and Ace are with each other.

We also observe there is an obvious gap from L to meeple. So either the top four are trying to stand out enough to not get suspected of the usual mafia inactivity, or are generally concerned townies that want to help more than anyone else in town? That in itself seems suspicious to me.

Also, how many people have been suspected from scamp down, the other slight break in post counts?

Scamp, Vivi57, Abenson, etc.



P.S. You're welcome, Lucas.
Foolish Brother ... If You Want to Kill Me ... Then Hate, Spite ... and Survive Pathetically. Run and Run ... and Cling Desperately to Life.
SugiuraMidori
Profile Joined May 2009
United States281 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-18 01:34:54
February 18 2010 01:22 GMT
#1662
On February 18 2010 09:42 L wrote:
Yeah you're full of shit.

There's no conclusive link between the rooftop killer in the day 1 clues and the actual murder. The guy was just running away from the sounds and died.


This inspired me to draw:

[image loading]



EDIT:: clarification is apparently required.. that's a bird on the roof saying 'chirp' indicating it's peaceful outside, but not so much inside. This is a metaphor for our now rather silent town except for the few still active.

And as Qatol has so painfully pointed out.. I meant 'Gavel' not 'gravel' ... but he's a lawyer and I'm not, so I had no idea and got corrected! xD
Foolish Brother ... If You Want to Kill Me ... Then Hate, Spite ... and Survive Pathetically. Run and Run ... and Cling Desperately to Life.
SugiuraMidori
Profile Joined May 2009
United States281 Posts
February 18 2010 01:47 GMT
#1667
On February 18 2010 10:34 L wrote:
I'd be happy if that picture inspired people to post, because shit got REAL SLOW REAL FAST.

Its like people only feel like they can post when I'm away and thus more likely to overlook stupid shit they say.


We're all too busy watching live SC2 feeds, why aren't you :D
Foolish Brother ... If You Want to Kill Me ... Then Hate, Spite ... and Survive Pathetically. Run and Run ... and Cling Desperately to Life.
SugiuraMidori
Profile Joined May 2009
United States281 Posts
February 18 2010 02:08 GMT
#1671
On February 18 2010 11:06 Bill Murray wrote:
watching chill's
he just completely raped a terran


I was.. but it lagged me hard, so now I'm watching Psyonic_Reavers
Foolish Brother ... If You Want to Kill Me ... Then Hate, Spite ... and Survive Pathetically. Run and Run ... and Cling Desperately to Life.
SugiuraMidori
Profile Joined May 2009
United States281 Posts
February 18 2010 22:01 GMT
#1704
All right, something I've noticed, and don't go trying to hide now.. is based on the votes being made for individuals.. as there are only a few possibilities of each, and thus we can begin to stick people into groups!!!

Anyone that votes for someone that isn't a main vote (bandwagon type) or abstain has the following possibilities:

1) They're both green/blue, just trying to peg another target without following the thread much or using their own suspicions and ignoring the rest of town.
2) They're both red, but they have to be on opposite teams if this is the case.
3) At least one is red and the other is anything as who would individually vote for their own team without a damn good reason in the thread or first following many others.

This makes the following groups of people..

• Cheznu and Ver.. likely both fit into category 1.
• Opz and DrH.. could be either 2 or 3 as there are many that suspect DrH could be red still?
• Zona and 789.. L has mentioned 789 before, and others have mentioned Zona. This leads me to think category 2.
• Faronel and Malango.. Again, both have been accused (if memory serves me well) thus category 2.
• Opz & Lucas and nemY.. This means that there is a high chance that Lucas and OpZ are the opposite of NemY, I guess category 1.
• Nikoner and myself and Scamp.. I think Nikoner is red, so Scamp won't be on the same red team, so he's either opposing or green.
• Xelin and Nemy.. Could be anything.

Now, applying logic...
• We can group OpZ, Lucas, and Xelin as either all a red/green team, or a mix of red and greens all on the opposite side as Nemy.
• We can group DrH and Nemy, most likely both red, thus making the above three a set of red on the opposite side, or more likely, a mix of the colors.

As for the rest, can't correlate much at the time. And of course all the abstainers cause issues and could likely all be in a group themselves! Confused townies or various mixes of both red families not wanting to vote for fellow innocent townies or family members that have been called out in the thread.


And lastly.. a post count just prior to the day end:
+ Show Spoiler +

bill murray = 63
redtooth = 27
l = 26
malongo = 25
meeple = 24

citi.zen = 16
sugiuramidori = 14
chezinu = 13
lucaswoj = 12
mystlord  = 12
ver = 12
789 = 12
amber[light] = 11
doctorhelvetica = 11
madnessman = 10

scamp = 7
nemy = 6
vivi57 = 6
xelin = 6
faronel = 5
fishball = 4
caller = 4
foolishness = 4
iaaan = 4
infundibulum = 4
[nyc]hobbes = 3
masterdana = 3
shockeyy = 3
johnnyspazz = 3
phrujbaz = 3
abenson = 3
dozko = 3
versatile = 2
nikoner = 2
quickstriker = 1
shikyo = 1

I used blank lines to seperate out groups of Heavy/Moderate/Light posters.
Foolish Brother ... If You Want to Kill Me ... Then Hate, Spite ... and Survive Pathetically. Run and Run ... and Cling Desperately to Life.
SugiuraMidori
Profile Joined May 2009
United States281 Posts
February 18 2010 22:03 GMT
#1705
Oh.. and there is:
madnessmen vs. L now showing up. which is more based on his recent long post against L more than anything else.
Foolish Brother ... If You Want to Kill Me ... Then Hate, Spite ... and Survive Pathetically. Run and Run ... and Cling Desperately to Life.
SugiuraMidori
Profile Joined May 2009
United States281 Posts
February 19 2010 00:05 GMT
#1725
I may have done the vote count, but it is still unofficial till incog does his, I just wanted to give everyone a rough idea on how it turned out.
Foolish Brother ... If You Want to Kill Me ... Then Hate, Spite ... and Survive Pathetically. Run and Run ... and Cling Desperately to Life.
SugiuraMidori
Profile Joined May 2009
United States281 Posts
February 19 2010 00:38 GMT
#1729
On February 19 2010 09:35 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
i will laugh if all the modkills are red


Either way.. I'm highlighting all the names in the post-count list.. maybe it will lead us to more mafia.
Foolish Brother ... If You Want to Kill Me ... Then Hate, Spite ... and Survive Pathetically. Run and Run ... and Cling Desperately to Life.
SugiuraMidori
Profile Joined May 2009
United States281 Posts
February 19 2010 00:58 GMT
#1734
"... leaving the hangman to clean up the three bodies." <-- you're still dead, Abenson, just a zombie now.
Foolish Brother ... If You Want to Kill Me ... Then Hate, Spite ... and Survive Pathetically. Run and Run ... and Cling Desperately to Life.
SugiuraMidori
Profile Joined May 2009
United States281 Posts
February 19 2010 01:21 GMT
#1737
+ Show Spoiler +

bill murray = 63

redtooth = 27
l = 26
malongo = 25
meeple = 24

citi.zen = 16
sugiuramidori = 14
chezinu = 13
lucaswoj = 12
mystlord = 12
ver = 12
789 = 12
amber[light] = 11
doctorhelvetica = 11
madnessman = 10

scamp = 7
nemy = 6
vivi57 = 6
xelin = 6
faronel = 5
fishball = 4
caller = 4
foolishness = 4
iaaan = 4
infundibulum = 4
[nyc]hobbes = 3
masterdana = 3
shockeyy = 3
johnnyspazz = 3
phrujbaz = 3
abenson = 3
dozko = 3
versatile = 2
nikoner = 2
quickstriker = 1
shikyo = 1
Foolish Brother ... If You Want to Kill Me ... Then Hate, Spite ... and Survive Pathetically. Run and Run ... and Cling Desperately to Life.
SugiuraMidori
Profile Joined May 2009
United States281 Posts
February 19 2010 07:20 GMT
#1769
On February 19 2010 14:30 Qatol wrote:
Ver has caught a VERY nasty computer virus. He has asked me to tell you all that he will be back when he finishes getting his computer up and running but it might take him a while.


Yes and pretty sure I helped cure him of it, he's got a couple scans left and then I'll let him have his Internet back :D

He caught a very nasty registry virus from, most likely, clicking a pop-up on a site accidentally.. so keep that in mind when you're browsing the Internet! Use a good browser that can handle pop-ups, Chrome and Opera are good examples. Keep at least reasonable Anti-Virus and have it updated.. and remember, just because you pay for it does not make it good... case in point: Macafee... IT SUCKS


Now back to your SC2 watching.
Foolish Brother ... If You Want to Kill Me ... Then Hate, Spite ... and Survive Pathetically. Run and Run ... and Cling Desperately to Life.
SugiuraMidori
Profile Joined May 2009
United States281 Posts
February 19 2010 08:49 GMT
#1771
Okay... well.. found a second VERY nasty virus... be a bit longer than expected haha.
Foolish Brother ... If You Want to Kill Me ... Then Hate, Spite ... and Survive Pathetically. Run and Run ... and Cling Desperately to Life.
SugiuraMidori
Profile Joined May 2009
United States281 Posts
February 20 2010 00:11 GMT
#1789
Yeh... just have an overmind land on the city and baneling hoards destroy us all :D
Foolish Brother ... If You Want to Kill Me ... Then Hate, Spite ... and Survive Pathetically. Run and Run ... and Cling Desperately to Life.
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