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Bill Murray

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January 19 2010 01:28 GMT

im ready

Bill Murray

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January 20 2010 00:23 GMT

#31

inertinept gone, one mafia down already lol

Bill Murray

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January 20 2010 12:54 GMT

#161

On January 20 2010 14:33 citi.zen wrote:
Hobbes maybe fits the "barbaric noises" and "raised fists" description. Also, he has the NyC before the name - the "big apple".

i like this

Bill Murray

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January 20 2010 13:06 GMT

#163

"same way that their bodies blended in with the encroaching night."
who's to say there were clues in the firstplace? perhaps the people have blank profiles

also, has anyone analyzed the reference to wild ponies?

Bill Murray

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January 20 2010 15:06 GMT

#169

I am liking citi.zen's analysis. The second killer, though, is more of a mystery. I am going to propose that they do not have a signature or a profile that anything could be taken from, thus resulting in the lack of clues.

Bill Murray

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January 20 2010 15:54 GMT

#176

what are your alls opinions on the upcoming election?

Bill Murray

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January 20 2010 16:05 GMT

#181

a scythe, that thing the grim reaper carries, with a thin blade on the end

Bill Murray

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January 20 2010 16:11 GMT

#183

we can agree that killer #2 has no real clues other than the fact that they are a cold, calculated killer who left no clues... which to me indicates a lack of a profile/signature... so it could be relevant to their name. im going to scan the player list

Bill Murray

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January 20 2010 16:13 GMT

#184

the most evil, calculated name i've found would be kane]deth[. that seems fitting for killer #2. it is pure speculation, though.

Bill Murray

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January 20 2010 16:27 GMT

#187

ok, if we're going to talk about #1, who is more likely to be it: keit or hobbes?

Bill Murray

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January 20 2010 16:27 GMT

#188

i also saw someone mention stimilant

Bill Murray

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January 20 2010 16:33 GMT

#190

i would probably abstain, as i wouldn't want to vote without being pretty certain. we're just speculating... we will get more clues in the future

Bill Murray

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January 20 2010 16:39 GMT

#193

On January 20 2010 21:57 citi.zen wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

If I am elected I will lynch hobbes. I identified him as a suspect and he still best fits the clues. I also suggested we separate our analysis between bad guy one and two for clarity.As an elected official I would continue to do more of the same, as well as use my powers to get extra clues.

citi.zen

Bill Murray

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January 20 2010 16:51 GMT

#199

yea, his edit was adding on, not erasing something he felt made him look bad or incriminating. i'll attest to that as i read it before and after said edit.

citi.zen -> as long as you/DH/meeple get mayor i'm happy
i don't mind t_co being sheriff, unless he puts me in the slammer, in which case i will cry

Bill Murray

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January 20 2010 16:54 GMT

#201

i hadn't thought about that... i just don't like jail

Bill Murray

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January 20 2010 16:58 GMT

#204

yeah, i was about to say that. wouldn't it suck if he incarcerated our medic?

Bill Murray

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January 20 2010 17:04 GMT

#206

i was just thinking this: everyone is agreeing to lynch someone tonight. everyone is wanting to kill Ng5 (for instance, not saying they want to). the mayor decides to kill blue_arrow out of the blue. i vote we lynch the mayor next if this happens... the mayor can be mafia right?

Bill Murray

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January 20 2010 17:08 GMT

#210

yeah thats what im saying

Bill Murray

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January 20 2010 17:19 GMT

#214

789 my theory is not thrown out the window... it is correct
town wants player A lynched tonight
mayor lynches player B instead
Player B and mayor are either friends or mafia, and are going against the town's wishes.
We should then lynch the mayor, as he has 3 possible votes per voting window. Him saying "i vote for [NyC]Hobbes" = 3 votes. We can't have someone doing that and going against the wishes of the majority of the town.

i suppose the mayor could do this just on a whim, but would we want someone like that as the mayor even if they arent mafia?

Bill Murray

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January 20 2010 19:24 GMT

#242

Nikoner, that can't be possible, check the times things are done. you're wrong on that.

Bill Murray

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January 20 2010 19:29 GMT

#245

t_co, why is it that you're trying to turn the town against each other?
i wonder

Bill Murray

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January 20 2010 19:33 GMT

#250

call me paranoid, but i'm eyeballing everyone voting for T_CO

List of suspicious people

T_CO,
StimiLant,
Faronel,
the cookiemonster,
and i'm going to throw Hobbes in there too

Bill Murray

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January 20 2010 20:34 GMT

#277

ok. t_co, apologies for jumping the gun. you seem to have good arguments.

Bill Murray

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January 20 2010 21:08 GMT

#288

we need to get meeple out here hitting the campaign trail

Bill Murray

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January 20 2010 21:38 GMT

#293

what if the mafia get mayor, and then purposefully lynch their own player? that would sure make a godfather as mayor look good/trustworthy to the town wouldn't it?

Bill Murray

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January 20 2010 22:01 GMT

#303

well, if we were mafia, we wouldn't be talking about it.... we'd be doing it!

Bill Murray

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January 20 2010 22:02 GMT

#306

is that a thin knife, or a pen to the left of your name DoctorH?

/joking

Bill Murray

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January 20 2010 22:07 GMT

#311

very true

Bill Murray

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January 20 2010 22:08 GMT

#312

i will admit that i would lean more towards inactive players when the clues or consensus doesn't add up, but both are sort of pointing towards a few people.

Bill Murray

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January 20 2010 22:34 GMT

#322

jeez 4? you're mafia target #1 now

Bill Murray

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January 21 2010 03:38 GMT

#387

go back to page 13 and read it, and then tell me how it makes you feel

Bill Murray

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January 21 2010 04:03 GMT

#396

stimilant both voted for t_co and fits a clue, that's a double whammy if i ever saw one

Bill Murray

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January 21 2010 04:09 GMT

#400

hobbes voted for meeple after it was clear that t_co wasn't going to win, yes. what's your point?

Bill Murray

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January 21 2010 04:12 GMT

#403

people who we believe are suspicious

Bill Murray

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January 21 2010 05:09 GMT

#426

i hope 789 is mafia, and isn't sub-100 IQ

Bill Murray

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January 21 2010 05:10 GMT

#427

for his sake

Bill Murray

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January 21 2010 07:36 GMT

#486

what would your plan be as mafia, t_co? run for sheriff and then estrange your competition throwing mud all over the place?

Bill Murray

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January 21 2010 08:14 GMT

#487

there are only 4 people who have yet to post on here, or are lurking (i'm assuming that because there are 3 people who have posted on the vote thread, who haven't posted here. there are also a few with only 1 post.)

the 4 inactives are: Ng5, ohN, phyujbaz, and JohannesH. Correct me if i'm wrong.
Many people will now say "Lynch them!", but do you kill stasised tanks first? Do you use feedback on a maelstromed defiler, or one that is running away towards your cannons?

Bill Murray

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January 21 2010 17:19 GMT

#536

Even if t_co is green/blue like he is trying to make people believe, who are his actions helping?

he is always contradicting himself, and has many followers without much justification. I would be surprised if he got lynched and wasn't red.

Bill Murray

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January 21 2010 17:22 GMT

#539

well, if t_co is red, we have 2 easy options: Faronel and STIMILANT

if t_co is green(or blue), we go with hobbes and use the next clue we get from the night cycle.... the clues could actually give us 2 potential lynch victims, which would save hobbes.

Bill Murray

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January 21 2010 17:24 GMT

#544

On January 22 2010 02:22 Bill Murray wrote:
well, if t_co is red, we have 2 easy options: Faronel and STIMILANT

if t_co is green(or blue), we go with hobbes and use the next clue we get from the night cycle.... the clues could actually give us 2 potential lynch victims, which would save hobbes.

Bill Murray

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January 21 2010 17:25 GMT

#545

furthermore, i find the first scenario more likely.

Bill Murray

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January 21 2010 17:25 GMT

#546

but that's splitting hairs.

Bill Murray

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January 21 2010 17:40 GMT

#549

i agree with this, citi.zen, but wouldn't someone who was a mafia candidate actually have to have some votes? say.... around 6 votes (there would be 6 mafia members other than him)? how many votes does t_co have? let me go check... looks like 6 to me

(disclaimer: i realize one of the 3 inactives could be mafia, which could explain why 789 might be voting for him, yet not be mafia [imo])

Bill Murray

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January 21 2010 17:40 GMT

#550

furthermore, please don't lecture me on how they can "split their votes".

Bill Murray

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January 21 2010 17:43 GMT

#552

he claimed that he wanted both sides to have one person in "office"...

though mayor is the real important role, and that's what he wants t_co to be apparently.

Bill Murray

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January 21 2010 17:50 GMT

#554

no it wouldn't. it would be the only smart thing you've posted since page 19.

Bill Murray

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January 21 2010 18:05 GMT

#564

to be honest, after speaking with someone in private, i realize now that i hope t_co isn't red (for my own sake). If t_co is red, i hope a medic out there will protect me

Bill Murray

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January 21 2010 18:07 GMT

#567

hobbes you have moved down to lynch victim number #2->#5 somewhere in there.
you should be happy, if anything, considering what was being said about you in the first half day.

Bill Murray

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January 21 2010 18:08 GMT

#569

let's ASSUME you and meeple get into office, Doc

you will both be protected.
they will target (in my opinion)
Citi.zen,
Jugan,
and I.

that's why i'm asking for a medic to protect me night #1. We need all the townie aligned players we can get.

Bill Murray

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January 21 2010 18:09 GMT

#571

i suppose i'm just paranoid and expect the mafia to whack me

Bill Murray

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January 21 2010 18:10 GMT

#573

i have been more active than my posting would indicate, which is pretty active in and of itself.

Bill Murray

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January 21 2010 18:13 GMT

#575

i'm not for lynching you at all, really, unless t_co isn't red (which he will be)

Bill Murray

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January 21 2010 18:15 GMT

#577

even then, i would rather analyze the next set of clues.
i really am not 100% on anyone... i don't think any of us are... or we'd be able to share what roles we are.

i'd be able to say i hope i'm not the miller

Bill Murray

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January 21 2010 23:24 GMT

#612

I vote for a double lynch on day 2

Bill Murray

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January 21 2010 23:25 GMT

#613

do we vote in the mayor thread?

Bill Murray

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January 21 2010 23:32 GMT

#615

i was just going along with what i presumed to be the town's plan...
i really am not for it so much.
in lieu of this, i abstain from voting on that for now

Bill Murray

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January 21 2010 23:33 GMT

#618

also, meeple, where do you stand on the mayoral lynch issue?

i suppose we'll get to see in under 2 and 1/2 hours

Bill Murray

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January 22 2010 00:27 GMT

#626

you're letting t_co become mayor with 3 vote power, while doctorH would be sheriff with no real power other than incarceration? (which *I FEEL* is pretty weak compared to 3 votes)

Bill Murray

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January 22 2010 01:40 GMT

#684

On January 22 2010 08:32 Bill Murray wrote:
i was just going along with what i presumed to be the town's plan...
i really am not for it so much.
in lieu of this, i abstain from voting on that for now

in reference for the double lynch on day two.

anything else nikoner?

Bill Murray

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January 22 2010 01:42 GMT

#688

im voting on who to lynch?

Bill Murray

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January 22 2010 01:51 GMT

#695

give me a moment to read up from 33-35

Bill Murray

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January 22 2010 01:54 GMT

#696

how about my post on page 10-11 which incriminated t_co before anyone else did?
was that junk?

Bill Murray

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January 22 2010 01:54 GMT

#697

On January 21 2010 04:33 Bill Murray wrote:
call me paranoid, but i'm eyeballing everyone voting for T_CO

List of suspicious people

T_CO,
StimiLant,
Faronel,
the cookiemonster,
and i'm going to throw Hobbes in there too

Bill Murray

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January 22 2010 01:58 GMT

#700

If I had to pick from my mind, I would rather see Stimilant gone.
The camps of thought are twofold.
The first is this: Follow the clues.
The second is this: Follow the posts/disruption.

Camp 1 wants to lynch hobbes..
Camp 2 wants to lynch t_co

(mainly)
I don't see why we can't find common ground with Stimilant.

that being said, i vote for t_co.
my logic relates to brood war:
if you're playing 2v2, and you have a clump off 11 mutalisks with an overlord, raiding an opponent's army, do you elect to snipe a marine or a high templar?

i know i'd go for the high templar.
I'm not saying t_co is the godfather, which he probably isn't, but he is a lot more dangerous in terms of getting us townies to do what he wants. In fact, i probably shouldn't call him a high templar, i should probably call him a Dark Archon.

Bill Murray

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January 22 2010 01:59 GMT

#702

i understand what you all are saying. i will try to not post so much, and will try to focus on the quality of my posting.

Bill Murray

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January 22 2010 02:07 GMT

#718

omg..........................................
i expected him to be red so much.
jeez i hope im not the miller.

Bill Murray

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January 22 2010 02:11 GMT

#727

it doesn't clear up anyone logically...

Bill Murray

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January 22 2010 02:19 GMT

#745

i would like to apologize to t_co, if he reads this

i'm sorry t_co, i sensed you were red and i was wrong.
if you want to forgive me, maybe we can 2v2 LT someday

Bill Murray

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January 22 2010 02:25 GMT

#750

i would also like to request a detective to rolecheck me

Bill Murray

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January 22 2010 02:31 GMT

#754

i want someone to vouch for the fact that i'm not red... would probably be wasteful, though, as unless a medic saves me i'm going to be gone in 24 hours

Bill Murray

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January 22 2010 02:39 GMT

#760

well, i hope everyone feels like you all do

Bill Murray

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January 22 2010 02:42 GMT

#763

On January 22 2010 11:40 blue_arrow wrote:
well, i think people should take a breather right now, and afterwards think about how we should organize the medics and detectives

suggestion?

Bill Murray

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January 22 2010 02:43 GMT

#764

i suppose they could all band together with the sheriff...

Bill Murray

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January 22 2010 03:35 GMT

#771

our elected officials have bodyguards.

i'll explain how i voted: i voted for citi.zen because i recognized him from the TL Chess thread. He is a very good poster in there. He posts analytically, and I usually agreed with every move he would post. I guess I was playing favorites. About 10 pages into Day 1, t_co started being very abrasive with his behavior, so i no longer wanted him to be sheriff. At this point, DoctorHelvetica had 6 votes, t_co and meeple both had 3, and citi.zen had one from me. (something like that, i know it was 6-3-3 or 6-2-3). At this point, I was thinking about how can i best benefit the town by keeping someone red out of office, as i thought t_co was red. Because of this, i decided to change my vote to meeple, giving him a vote ahead or tied votes with t_co. I am not really happy with the way things turned out, as he was green, but i'll admit he had what happened to him coming with his poor behavior.

this being said, it is not good to dwell on the past, and i will discuss this no more.

Bill Murray

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January 22 2010 03:51 GMT

#775

even if the mafia claimed to be blue roles, they wouldn't be able to live up to their actions.

Bill Murray

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January 22 2010 19:40 GMT

#876

what i'm really interested in is the need for coordination in our medics preventing hits. ideally, we can block a hit, two hits, or even possibly 3 hits if we have that many medics. the REAL PROBLEM lies with us not knowing who these players are. it would not be a good idea for you all to say who you are to anyone either... just don't be afraid to protect someone.