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Phrujbaz
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Netherlands512 Posts
February 04 2010 14:37 GMT
#1861
In Chuiu's first game he said something like "fill out your profile, because if you're Mafia and all I have is your username, expect the clues to be easy."

I thought that was a great way to motivate people. If you're Mafia, and you don't have a profile, you'll just get a clue to your username that's dead obvious if need be.
Caution! Future approaching rapidly at a rate of about 60 seconds per minute.
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
February 04 2010 17:12 GMT
#1862
On February 04 2010 23:37 Phrujbaz wrote:
In Chuiu's first game he said something like "fill out your profile, because if you're Mafia and all I have is your username, expect the clues to be easy."

I thought that was a great way to motivate people. If you're Mafia, and you don't have a profile, you'll just get a clue to your username that's dead obvious if need be.

The problem with this policy is that you are essentially punishing the whole mafia for a few members not having a profile. And because we want the clues to be consistent, the mafia have no way of knowing that it is a problem until the game has already started (and it is thus too late to change anything) because the mafia don't know who their teammates are until the game starts.

Basically, I think we need to start implementing a rule that you don't make it onto the signups list unless you have a useful profile. I specify "useful" because in BC's first game, one of the cluesets was fighting. The problem was there were like 3-4 players whose sig said "XYZ Fighting!" or "XYZ Hwaiting!" and they otherwise had an empty profile. Obviously, we need to require more than that in the future if we want to continue to play games with clues.
Uff Da
[NyC]HoBbes
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States803 Posts
February 04 2010 17:34 GMT
#1863
On February 04 2010 12:14 citi.zen wrote:
In this particular game we caught 6/7 mafia yet we misinterpreted clues all the way to the end. Just ask poor Hobbes. + Show Spoiler +
On January 29 2010 13:07 [NyC]HoBbes wrote:
all I know is finally the clues dont suggest me... considering the last few nights I was expecting tonight to be "his orange, stripy attacker left a great deal of fur and tuna fish behind..."
Sorry. Could not resist.


Even I was starting to think it was me. :p
Where'er you walk cool gales shall fan the glade
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
February 04 2010 17:38 GMT
#1864
On February 05 2010 02:12 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2010 23:37 Phrujbaz wrote:
In Chuiu's first game he said something like "fill out your profile, because if you're Mafia and all I have is your username, expect the clues to be easy."

I thought that was a great way to motivate people. If you're Mafia, and you don't have a profile, you'll just get a clue to your username that's dead obvious if need be.

The problem with this policy is that you are essentially punishing the whole mafia for a few members not having a profile. And because we want the clues to be consistent, the mafia have no way of knowing that it is a problem until the game has already started (and it is thus too late to change anything) because the mafia don't know who their teammates are until the game starts.

Basically, I think we need to start implementing a rule that you don't make it onto the signups list unless you have a useful profile. I specify "useful" because in BC's first game, one of the cluesets was fighting. The problem was there were like 3-4 players whose sig said "XYZ Fighting!" or "XYZ Hwaiting!" and they otherwise had an empty profile. Obviously, we need to require more than that in the future if we want to continue to play games with clues.


Interesting suggestion. Perhaps a profile picture/sig quote could be made mandatory.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-04 17:53:32
February 04 2010 17:49 GMT
#1865
On February 05 2010 02:38 citi.zen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2010 02:12 Qatol wrote:
On February 04 2010 23:37 Phrujbaz wrote:
In Chuiu's first game he said something like "fill out your profile, because if you're Mafia and all I have is your username, expect the clues to be easy."

I thought that was a great way to motivate people. If you're Mafia, and you don't have a profile, you'll just get a clue to your username that's dead obvious if need be.

The problem with this policy is that you are essentially punishing the whole mafia for a few members not having a profile. And because we want the clues to be consistent, the mafia have no way of knowing that it is a problem until the game has already started (and it is thus too late to change anything) because the mafia don't know who their teammates are until the game starts.

Basically, I think we need to start implementing a rule that you don't make it onto the signups list unless you have a useful profile. I specify "useful" because in BC's first game, one of the cluesets was fighting. The problem was there were like 3-4 players whose sig said "XYZ Fighting!" or "XYZ Hwaiting!" and they otherwise had an empty profile. Obviously, we need to require more than that in the future if we want to continue to play games with clues.


Interesting suggestion. Perhaps a profile picture/sig quote could be made mandatory.

A profile quote would work as well. The more material the host has for you, the easier it is to formulate a clueset. The only items in the user profile generally seen as off limits are the country because it is just too common usually and the user icon (assuming it isn't a custom staff icon) because that can change during the game without the user being able to control it. And I think this is a bit better than using previous posts on TL because that can just get ugly in the case of the forum veterans who have thousands of posts (this was Chuiu's solution in Mafia I - his Quesadilla clueset was based on some strongman posts Quesadilla made elsewhere on the site).
Uff Da
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
February 04 2010 18:20 GMT
#1866
For a while I thought the clue about the vile, disgusting...etc. might have to do with some old forum argument you've had with another player. I did not bother to check though, and in general I would agree that old posts are weak clue material.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
February 04 2010 18:36 GMT
#1867
Mandatory does seem the way to go... looking at my own profile, I only have the picture of the Chinese guy (man that got attacked for a long time though) and my signature saying "no you"... yeah definitely not the best idea to choose cluesets from.

Next mafia game I will spruce up the profile ahead of time!
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
February 04 2010 19:30 GMT
#1868
On February 05 2010 02:12 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2010 23:37 Phrujbaz wrote:
In Chuiu's first game he said something like "fill out your profile, because if you're Mafia and all I have is your username, expect the clues to be easy."

I thought that was a great way to motivate people. If you're Mafia, and you don't have a profile, you'll just get a clue to your username that's dead obvious if need be.

The problem with this policy is that you are essentially punishing the whole mafia for a few members not having a profile. And because we want the clues to be consistent, the mafia have no way of knowing that it is a problem until the game has already started (and it is thus too late to change anything) because the mafia don't know who their teammates are until the game starts.

Basically, I think we need to start implementing a rule that you don't make it onto the signups list unless you have a useful profile. I specify "useful" because in BC's first game, one of the cluesets was fighting. The problem was there were like 3-4 players whose sig said "XYZ Fighting!" or "XYZ Hwaiting!" and they otherwise had an empty profile. Obviously, we need to require more than that in the future if we want to continue to play games with clues.


I would also say, that to make that clue set even more terrible, They were two inactive players in the end so it was next to impossible to catch them (alot of people didnt post).

My current games clueset wasn't as farfetched as my previous games, at least in my head .
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
February 04 2010 21:32 GMT
#1869
Tempted to include a random 2 pages of text in my profile and a few pictures before the next game. For added confusions. All killings will point to me, at least a little bit.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-04 22:53:25
February 04 2010 21:50 GMT
#1870
On February 05 2010 06:32 citi.zen wrote:
Tempted to include a random 2 pages of text in my profile and a few pictures before the next game. For added confusions. All killings will point to me, at least a little bit.

There is such a thing as too much.
Really, people just need a few interesting phrases in their profile/ an interesting picture. It doesn't have to be long, just unique and image-provoking.

EDIT:
LucasWoJ removed his ridiculous profile. Finding a preserved copy.

EDIT:
Found it! Thanks dreamflower for your profile collection (now doubling as preservation) thread!
20. LucasWoJ - Bodyguard (died Day Two)
+ Show Spoiler +
Picture: None
Quote: The Mafia Forum Is Alive: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31"Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are it could have been." - Kurt Vonnegut
Profile: Alright, how can I make myself a prime mafia suspect...hmm, here are some vague references (they can refer to anything!)

- Pirates have always been elusive figures.
- Oh the times! Oh the morals!
- Lasciat ogni speranza, voi che intrante.
- ”凡事须得研究,才会明白。“ - 鲁迅
- Focus the machine!
- white, blue, red, red, yellow, green, purple, brown, black, colors!
- "Procrastination is the thief of time!" - some guy from the 1600s.
- Feyman's "Law of gravitation" <--best lecture I've ever read

There, clues shouldn't be too difficult to think up with all that junk.



SHADOW SHADOW SHADOW! DRAGON FIRE STORK JAEDONG DINOSAUR SPACESHIP

I hope I'm providing the right words. Let's see...

Knife, gun, burning alive, matches, broken bottle, movie sign, punched to death, kicked to death, boiled to death, run over by a car, abducted by aliens, asphyxiation, defenestration, hanging, flaying, flagellation, robbery, arson, etc.

electronic device, book, sunglasses and other accessories.

CAR CAR CAR

cat, dog, any other pet, lion, tiger, wolf,

Little, medium, large


You got me Caller; you got me. I completely omitted an entire section of what could substantiate a clue. Songs. Ipod. Michael Jackson. Bon Jovi. Billy Joel. The beatles. Frank Sinatra. Wang Lee Hom. Bing Crosby. There.

War.

Arrow, scythe, hammer. Moonlight. Alley.

Uff Da
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-04 22:14:27
February 04 2010 21:59 GMT
#1871
Nonsense, it would be a jolly good time to have 3 killings per night point at me.

Edit: ah, nice. He lived through day 1, there is hope!
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
February 04 2010 22:51 GMT
#1872
On February 05 2010 06:59 citi.zen wrote:
Nonsense, it would be a jolly good time to have 3 killings per night point at me.

Edit: ah, nice. He lived through day 1, there is hope!

He actually died during night 1, so in the day 2 post. Also, the person with the autolynch (Ver) doesn't believe in clues. I'll let you make your own conclusions on its use.
Uff Da
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
February 05 2010 02:19 GMT
#1873
I was looking at past mafia games...
and I came across Mafia X
Those guys had 100% correct lynches?!
(they double lynched a red and a green on the last day though)
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
February 05 2010 04:56 GMT
#1874
On February 05 2010 11:19 Abenson wrote:
I was looking at past mafia games...
and I came across Mafia X
Those guys had 100% correct lynches?!
(they double lynched a red and a green on the last day though)


its because we were completely broken as a town, and mafia needed a buff
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
February 05 2010 10:41 GMT
#1875
Well, it seemed pretty balanced this game, if it wasn't for the 2 modkilled mafia, it would've lasted some more time developing in a really nice game I think. 100% correct lynches sounds kinda dire tho

As for not fleshing out the profile more, I'm guilty of this, but I honestly only thought that I mustn't change my profile while the game is running. I wasn't active enough anyway. Is there going to be another game at some point in the near future?
Phrujbaz
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Netherlands512 Posts
February 05 2010 12:15 GMT
#1876
I heard that Nikoner is going to host our next game.
Caution! Future approaching rapidly at a rate of about 60 seconds per minute.
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-05 12:56:56
February 05 2010 12:53 GMT
#1877
On February 05 2010 13:56 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2010 11:19 Abenson wrote:
I was looking at past mafia games...
and I came across Mafia X
Those guys had 100% correct lynches?!
(they double lynched a red and a green on the last day though)


its because we were completely broken as a town, and mafia needed a buff

It was something insane like the top 15 or 20 players in a 60 person game were all innocent. The mafia didn't have anyone who had played more than one or two games before. Also, the town managed to elect a DT who promptly formed a DT circle. Not a good combination.

On February 05 2010 19:41 Nikoner wrote:
Well, it seemed pretty balanced this game, if it wasn't for the 2 modkilled mafia, it would've lasted some more time developing in a really nice game I think. 100% correct lynches sounds kinda dire tho

As for not fleshing out the profile more, I'm guilty of this, but I honestly only thought that I mustn't change my profile while the game is running. I wasn't active enough anyway. Is there going to be another game at some point in the near future?

I'm sure someone will stand up and do it relatively soon. We never seem to lack for hosts, just players.
Uff Da
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
February 05 2010 12:56 GMT
#1878
Caller for next host!
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
February 05 2010 12:58 GMT
#1879
On February 05 2010 21:56 Ace wrote:
Caller for next host!

.....Don't tempt him. Unless you really want to hear him singing again......
Uff Da
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
February 05 2010 13:00 GMT
#1880
Incognito again?
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