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We still have:
1. The day one clues. Possible link to a number of players. Maybe strongest link to Hobbes.
2. Suspicion of other candidates, now that t_co turned green. Even t_co thought there was mafia interest in getting elected.
3. When t_co became the lead lynching candidate, the mafia of course knew he was in fact green. We can go back and look at people's posts and voting record keeping this in mind.
4. PMs. Be careful who you talk to and keep notes. Think critically.
When more clues surface, use some combination of the above.
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Oh how I would love to. Damn work.
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I actually like that a lot.
I guess a clue-check in these cases is better than a role-check, since the godfather cannot hide their role?
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Yes, but there is something to be said about learning early on who to trust. If dt's are duplicating each other's work, talking to the wrong people and getting killed, we're in bad shape later in the game.
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On January 23 2010 02:32 789 wrote:
Also the problem with my idea is the relay of information.
A mafia could say DoctorH is red to get him lynched. If he flips green/blue the person who relayed the information becomes a lynch target. He could be mafia or innocent, duped by the mafia.
A detective could follow through on this, send his PM to a mafia. This could potenially cost us a detective AND sherrif.
If DoctorH ends up being lynched and flips red, the person who relays the information is a target to be hit. Whether the detective himself or the person he sent a PM too.
Right, which is why it is critical to remain calm and not overreact as a detective, even if you find juicy information. Only share with people you are really sure you can trust, then jointly decide how to proceed.
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I would think tight lips & role checks go a long way. Three role checks per dt means they should each uncover on average 2 good and 1 bad guy. If you get more bad guys that is useful. If you get all good guys, that's nice too.
Either way, early on the dts should try to build these networks, rather than attempt to solve the mystery. Stay safe and out of sight, your time will come!
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Right. We will have another lynching to do, but that's after the clues/killings.
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A guideline for detectives:
1. Use your role-checks to find people you can trust.
2. Only discuss your thoughts in PMs with these people.
3. Don't try to solve everything in the early-game. FE, don't 4 pool - nobody scouted!
4. In the mid-late game, use and abuse clue-checks - they are stronger than role-checks at that point.
5. Only share findings with trusted people.
Am I forgetting something? Is this useful to help coordinate the dts?
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Yeah, I would think a medic would want try to protect someone now, rather than skip a turn. Pay attention and take your best guess(es).
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On January 23 2010 05:12 Faronel wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2010 13:06 meeple wrote:On January 22 2010 13:03 Faronel wrote:I'm kind of the inactive player. I'll post about like 1 post a day... mostly voting for who or what not. My activity is constant by small. But yea I voted for t_co cause I liked the banner  , and "mafia experience" platform. Just a warning... there is going to be a certain degree of "would would mafia do in this situation?" reasoning. But in the end, the chances of actually hitting a mafia like this is really small, and each time you do lynch on a wifom decision it thins out the town's #'s, more so in the beginning due to more density of townies per mafia. So, I'm kind of advocating a wait for better than "that's exactly what mafia would do" proof, or like a MustLynch situation to lynch. Also, isn't there logic in lynch the mayor due to the massive # of votes he gets. Mafia has better use for that power than town because town already has a majority # of votes. Especially in days where the lynch vote is split b/w 3 people, the mayor essentially has the decision in his hands. The power gained by mafia is the mayor were mafia is so much greater than the power gained by the town if the mayor is indeed town. Unless the mayor abstains from voting most of the days? What did you edit... just because you're not really allowed to edit by the rules of the game I added in the 2nd paragraph about how lynching the mayor is awesome.
At what point does this sort of thing become grounds for a ban?
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Given how things played out, I give myself a 20% chance of surviving the night.
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On January 23 2010 08:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
3 hours until the next day.
I'm a bit nervous : /
You have bodyguard protection.
I wish people were a bit more careful in their PMs. That is the biggest takeaway thus far: just be careful.
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For the record: Bill had identified himself as a detective to a number of people, including myself. I asked him to be careful and stop doing that, but he explained he is an outgoing guy and doesn't care if it gets him killed. The rest is, unfortunately, history for him.
I repeat: if you are a blue, keep quiet and stay alive, unless you are sure of those you can trust.
Will take a look at the clues now...
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For what its worth, I will confirm that, right or wrong, Bill did trust me, Jugan and Dr.H.
He thought Jugan had to be in the clear since he told Bill "I hope I'm not the miller". I have no idea why this would be evidence for anything, or why in general he would trust anyone he did not role-check.
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Agreed, flamewheel91 is by far and away the strongest suspect now. The Olympic runner reference seems very strong.
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Jayme has a cat, Hobbes the tiger, Hyperbola a squid (?)
Could kane]deth[ by a suspect for Bill killing too? kane = sledge-hammer, used to kill Bill?
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From the darkness, a figure appeared just outside the garage, advancing on him with what looked like a sledgehammer. The figure moved quickly, wearing a large helmet resembling an old rusty pail.
This seems waaaay too specific to be accidental.
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On January 23 2010 13:13 citi.zen wrote:Show nested quote +From the darkness, a figure appeared just outside the garage, advancing on him with what looked like a sledgehammer. The figure moved quickly, wearing a large helmet resembling an old rusty pail. This seems waaaay too specific to be accidental.
God damn it, I can't figure it out. The closest thing is Ng5, via knight - helmet - scepter / hammer. That's weaker than the Hobbes connection I would think.
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On January 24 2010 23:04 meeple wrote:
And there's a stronger link to him than to really any of the others... He was in the middle of the whole Bill.Murray fiasco, and yeah you can chalk that up to the Mafia catching on, but you gotta admit its still pretty incriminating.
Yes, this bothers me a lot. He also seemed to think t_co was innocent when we were discussing it, and has revealed private information about a rolecheck to another player. Not saying any of this is definite, but it does raise questions in my mind.
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I am not sure you had a choice actually. I knew you knew. I knew I had been role checked and bill was not lying to me, especially after he died and was revealed to be a detective.
I am not claiming this incriminates you beyond any reasonable doubt, it does not. But it does make your argument about willingly sharing your connection with Bill a very weak one.
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