Ok, we've been doing really well with clue analysis as of now. I tried to get everyone to do this before and no one did. So i'll ask again, where does everyone stand?

Also, who should I incarcerate tonight? I'll be incarcerating meeple as of now, but I am willing to change my mind if the town has a different opinion.

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

January 27 2010 00:17 GMT

#1440

Or the tiger in hobbes. I really don't see a good reason to suspect Jayme over hobbes.

And I see no reason to suspect anyone over keit.

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

January 27 2010 00:28 GMT

#1444

There are no holes in my reasoning and that isn't even an example of me changing my opinion. I do feel that it is likely one of the initial candidates is mafia, but I also thought it was necessary to bring up the possibility that none of them are mafia since it was the entire reason t_co was going batshit and pointing fingers. His entire reasoning was retarded, that me and meeple are both running and we agreed about a clue, therefore we are both mafia.

That has nothing to do with what we are discussing now.

What do the other two quotes have to do with the first one anyway? lol

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

January 27 2010 00:30 GMT

#1445

On January 27 2010 09:27 ghote wrote:
i would like to ask DrH why he voted so soon before night. Why did you vote before the time limit was even close to being over, and possibly some evidence was overlooked. please explain this decision.

Because based on the clues from day 1 and 3 I feel that keit is without a doubt mafia. Even after reading Ng5's analysis and various other connections, I feel that keit is the strongest candidate or lynching.

If I was swayed otherwise, I would simply change my vote.

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

January 27 2010 00:37 GMT

#1449

On January 27 2010 09:36 Ng5 wrote:

Show nested quote +

No comment.

That's ridiculous. Don't attack me and then refuse to comment on my response.

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

January 27 2010 00:41 GMT

#1452

Oh god i changed my mind i must be mafia

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

January 27 2010 00:42 GMT

#1453

You're acting like a child. If you want to argue about the logic and objective reasoning behind my decisions, let's do that.

Or you can hide behind your shitty condescension. the second i defend myself, that works too.

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

January 27 2010 00:42 GMT

#1454

You're acting like a child. If you want to argue about the logic and objective reasoning behind my decisions, let's do that.

Or you can hide behind your shitty condescension the second i defend myself, that works too.

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

January 27 2010 00:43 GMT

#1455

whoops i hit post twice

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

January 27 2010 00:51 GMT

#1457

No I don't. First of all, you didn't even manage to point out a single instance when I changed my mind. I explained why those two quotes are not at all inconsistent with eachother, which you of course ignored.

I changed my vote from kane]deth[ to keit, I believe that is the only vote I've ever changed. I've also changed my mind based on new analysis which I had not considered before, but I don't think anyone in this game has NEVER changed their mind about who may or may not be most suspicious during this game.

Back your shit up instead of making arrogant jokes and acting like you know something everyone doesn't.

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

January 27 2010 03:14 GMT

#1467

I have on multiple occasions argued to defend myself and acknowledged people who think I am suspicious. I have explained my reasoning with every decision I have made whenever asked and I've made no attempt to cover up my opinions or actions. I do think Keit/Hobbes are the strongest candidates from Day 3, but I never claimed Mystlord was innocent, rather that I feel keit is the strongest connection.

I strongly feel that keit is mafia and that while the clue reference to Mystlord is indeed strong, I don't think it is anywhere near the level of the connection to keit. I also have dictated the use of my incarceration power to the town.

If keit is lynched tonight and turns green/blue, then go ahead and lynch me if you think it'll get you more information. If I was mafia, there would be no reason to stick my neck out this far and be this active for the town. I'd have nothing to gain and everything to lose.

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

January 27 2010 03:16 GMT

#1468

Also, I fail to see how telling you why I find keit suspicious when you asked me to is even remotely incriminating.

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

January 27 2010 03:21 GMT

#1470

I think it's fair enough to provide an alternative.

If keit turns up green, that's fair reason to suspect me. However, I'm fairly certain he's mafia. The clue connections are just too strong, and his behavior is suspicious enough.

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

January 27 2010 03:25 GMT

#1472

Neither my or keit's behavior makes sense of both of us are mafia. If we were both mafia, it would make zero sense for him to accuse me in the first place, much less for me to strongly advocate his lynching.

If mafia are going to vote for mafia, wouldn't they bandwagon onto it rather than start the bandwagon themselves?

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

January 27 2010 03:27 GMT

#1474

If the town lynches keit tonight, and he flips green or blue, I don't think I'd be able to stop myself from being lynched unless the detective is exposed as fake. Which he is.

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

January 27 2010 03:31 GMT

#1476

On January 27 2010 12:29 Ng5 wrote:
We're also getting ahead of clues which are probably overlapping each other. It would also benefit the mafia to sacrifice one member for the possible safety of another. Wouldn't it?

Enough of this. Time to decide, everyone can do it on their own.

Today's decision and the consequences will pretty much decide which side will win.

It can be either 10-11 vs 3 for town or complete and utter annihilation.

Sure, but it wouldn't make sense for a mafia to out of nowhere begin a bandwagon on another mafia.

If keit and myself were both mafia. Why would a mafia member decide to paint the most active poster red? It doesn't make any sense.