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Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
December 06 2009 09:12 GMT
#32
oh, this hasn't started yet?

I'll play if we don't start till tuesday (finals)
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Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
December 10 2009 11:23 GMT
#47
lol fail

I'm skiing from saturday (19th?) to christmas eve, how about after christmas?

if you do start that week, just knock me off the list since i'd miss half the game
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Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
January 04 2010 21:23 GMT
#62
gogo
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Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
January 05 2010 07:52 GMT
#74
I say we kill scamp. He'll post so little that his role won't be too transparent and we'll be forced to kill him for inactivity without gaining new information. This also helps to enforce that mafia must post or they'll be killed for inactivity.
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Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
January 05 2010 21:40 GMT
#107
Judge is probably vet or gf. Either way, using a rolecheck on him is a waste because it tells us nothing. Ace and L shouldn't be checked either because unless they're both mafia, they'll turn up town aligned.

Malongo and chezinu are the only people who haven't posted yet.


To anyone suggesting that judge is gf and the mafia doesn't hit anyone for a night so he can make some claim to saving someone, you're wrong. There's no way the mafia would take such a huge risk for such a small potential return.
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Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
January 06 2010 21:24 GMT
#154
I really hate the idea of lynching judge now. If he's gf, we get him now and save a little potential damage.

If he's medic/vet, we just massively fucked up.


Basically, by not wanting to wait to lynch judge, you're saying that you think he could completely fuck us over and that you're not good enough to poke holes in his plan and see him as the gf. Collectively, we *are* that good so there's really no point in lynching him now.

At this point, I think it's +ev for the mafia not to accuse anyone and just stay out of the way while the town hangs itself. The people who haven't posted much or accused anyone are:

chez
heavon
mikeymoo

All 3 have posted a bit, but haven't actually said anything. I'm much less inclined to kill heavon because it seems like he's putting in a decent effort. Chez has said that he is going to not do his brown crap this game and not posted anything else. Mikeymoo has responded more directly to the game, but not really to any situations that have arisen. Because of this, I'm going to put my vote there for now, but may have to change it because I think judge should live till day 2 at least.
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Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
January 07 2010 01:45 GMT
#232
ok, we have 2.5 hours left so I'm going to offer another option:

Zato

read the posts between zato and judge carefully. They have a dialogue going where they agree about the big things while arguing about fairly small details. There's definitely some kind of alliance going on there. Right when the wagon seemed to be gaining speed against judge, he comes out and accuses malongo.

I feel like there's a really good chance that judge flips gf if zato flips red so we gain alot of information from zato's death.

I was going to get mikeymoo for inactivity, but that's changed and I really don't like the wagon of scamp and chez following me so I'm going to change my vote to zato.

I still strongly believe judge should live until tomorrow.
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Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
January 07 2010 01:47 GMT
#234
On January 07 2010 10:44 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Where the hell does emotion come up in my post at all?

is that anger?
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Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
January 07 2010 02:46 GMT
#254
shit, the claim was dubious, but wanting to absorb a dt check is just awful. Everyone knows you're going to turn up blue no matter what so the check is 100% wasted regardless of whether you're medic, vet, or gf.
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Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
January 07 2010 04:43 GMT
#316
well, what were you guys expecting honestly?
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Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
January 08 2010 06:57 GMT
#365
zato: oshit, i only get to lead one witch hunt as mafia, guess I'd better let a townie lead the next one

I'm really intrigued by chez's accusation. He needs to talk more.
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Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
January 08 2010 09:25 GMT
#371
So judge has no plan and is firing off at chez who just claimed dt and claims to have found a 100% mafia through a rc. He also complains that if chez is right, we'd blindly follow him meanwhile tell us to follow *his* plan that he still can't announce.

Looks like its between judge and mikeymoo tonight.
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Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
January 08 2010 21:56 GMT
#401
question for vets:

last game, chez did the voteswitching crap and ended up being mafia. Has he done this while town before?
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Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
January 09 2010 03:53 GMT
#423
Every one of heavon's posts were about not believing judge. I'm going to beat the mafia at their leveling war and say that they killed heavon to make us react and lynch judge. At this point, I'm fairly sure judge is town.

Right now, either chez or mikey is mafia. 4 scenarios:

we lynch chez and he flips blue so we vig mikeymoo tonight. After the mafia hit, we are left in a situation of 5v2 without a dt

we lynch chez and he's red. This confirms mikey as innocent lets us use the vig on someone else with a good chance of hitting red. 5v2 or 6v1 with our dt alive

we lynch mikey and he flips town. vig chez and back at 5v2, but still with a dt

lynch mikey and he's red. Town autowin


losing our dt would really suck, so it looks like its mikey today
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Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
January 10 2010 06:12 GMT
#468
woo, chez is 99.9% legit now

based on his voting pattern and his lack of yelling at people in the thread, I suggest the vig hits ace tonight to hit the gf.

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Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
January 10 2010 06:59 GMT
#476
On January 10 2010 15:25 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
woo, chez is 99.9% legit now
Not really. Could have been a sacrifice to gain trust.

But hey mikey. That's why we kill the roleclaimer, right?

Really now L. The mafia would have to be really stupid to risk this and lose one of their own just to chez get the trust of the town. The only time mafia EVER have caused the death of one of their own was pyrr fucking up a couple games ago.

so yeah, don't claim to chez, but I'm pretty sure he's town
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Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
January 10 2010 07:17 GMT
#479
On January 10 2010 16:02 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 15:59 Vivi57 wrote:
On January 10 2010 15:25 L wrote:
woo, chez is 99.9% legit now
Not really. Could have been a sacrifice to gain trust.

But hey mikey. That's why we kill the roleclaimer, right?

Really now L. The mafia would have to be really stupid to risk this and lose one of their own just to chez get the trust of the town. The only time mafia EVER have caused the death of one of their own was pyrr fucking up a couple games ago.

so yeah, don't claim to chez, but I'm pretty sure he's town


KP isn't affected this game. So losing one, especially with a GF still remaining, is no big loss.

but giving the town a 1 day advantage in a ~5 day game is a big loss
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Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
January 10 2010 11:11 GMT
#486
On January 10 2010 19:59 Chezinu wrote:
Scamp....scamp...scamp...why!!!!!

So I was just looking at some pms I had with Scamp...

+ Show Spoiler +
From: Scamp [ Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: Re: Question
Date: 1/7/10 12:38
Well I don't have a reason not to answer, and I like anything interesting or different no matter where it comes from, as long as it doesn't injure me or affect my gag reflex.

For the hell of it, I will roleclaim back. I am a simple townie. Now you have absolutely no reason to kill me if you are mafia unless somehow I make myself worth more than I really am.

Also your should be you're. Grammar nazi me. I explained this somewhere in the thread already.


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Original Message:
Very good answer!!! I like you! You always answer my questions no matter how crazy they are in all the games I played. With that I shall do the unspeakable!!! ROLECLAIM!!!!!! ON DAY 1!!!!!! I am....

the detective

Now if your mafia, you have no choice but to kill me tonight! muhahhahahhahahahhhaha!!!! Tell nemy hi for me, k.

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Original Message:
Well they do seem to be getting along abnormally well. By that I mean they haven't threatened to kill each other yet. Sure they're arguing and disagreeing, but that's not enough when it comes to these two. So L and Ace being on the same team is not out of the question.

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Original Message:
alright thanks. So Judge isn't an ally with both L and Ace. So do you think L and Ace are of the same team?

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Original Message:
You need to be more specific, but if I were a Judge I wouldn't wear anything anywhere that couldn't be seen anyway.

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Original Message:
Do you think a judge wears shoe laces?


I told Scamp to say hi to nemY and you know what he does? do you?
he did this!:
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 07 2010 12:50 Scamp wrote:
I just got back and I finished reading the thread.

Also: Hi NemY!


The only thing I don't want is a no-lynch. I'd prefer Malongo over Judge. I think those are my only options.


Then the following conversation occured the next day!:
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From: Scamp [ Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: Re: If I die tonight
Date: 1/8/10 08:43
Yep, shouldn't be a problem.

That is, if they kill you and you flip detective.

Also, why don't you post the PMs that incriminate Mikey?


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Original Message:
YOU MUST GET MIKEYMOO KILLED!!! If I die, he must be lynched!


Finally, the worse of them all
+ Show Spoiler +
From: Scamp [ Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: Re: uh oh...
Date: 1/9/10 12:48
Hmmm....good point. Hopefully someone else will compile a list before the day ends.


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Original Message:

Yay! I <3 you. Btw, Heavonearth was the last person I know who compiled a list.
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Original Message:
No, but I guess I'll find out.

Also I need to check what Judge has said so far. I'll probably be voting Mikey soon, unless Judge has said nothing on the topic at all.


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Original Message:
Do you know what happens to those who compile other people's quotes?


Scamp has been playing nice all game, just way too nice! He seems too much like a townie to me...

ok, sounds like we have our dt target for tonight. If scamp turns out to be town, I think we can go ahead and vig ace.
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Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
January 11 2010 01:16 GMT
#518
I agree with zato's move

vig ace tonight, lynch nemy tomorrow. Getting a vote for ace will be much harder than a vote for nemy
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Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
January 11 2010 03:21 GMT
#526
hopefully 40 mins, if he waits till 10, another day he won't be able to post till midnight and it'll just keep being pushed back >_<
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Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
January 11 2010 05:25 GMT
#538
ezgame
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Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
January 11 2010 09:15 GMT
#591
The minute Judge claimed Medic I was expecting a town lynch. It was actually the perfect reaction no matter what role I had : any Day 1 claims especially something that can't be proven should be looked at as a Mafia ploy. We've been through this like almost every game but it's impossible to know when the town is thinking straight.


wrong. there's very little to gain from lynching judge at that point


I immediately told Incognito to make me a Medic and I started accusing Judge. Even with Judge's bad play I was hoping I'd get DT checked. Amazingly I didn't, nor did Judge. This was my alibi for calling Judge out - I knew he was lying not only because it was a dumb move but because I was the real medic.


mistake 2. We agreed that judge would turn up blue whether he was gf medic or vet. We were wrong, but there was still a 100% chance he wouldn't turn up red. We also knew that if you were mafia, you'd be gf so checking you was stupid.


When the lynch came we also got another break. Chezinu said he was PMing around with Scamp. Scamp then last minute votes while Chez is playing around and taunting Malongo and Judge. Then Chez flip flops. I was actually sitting here thinking to myself how is possible no one would lynch Chez at this point?


timing. At this point, you said you'd lynch chez if others would too. At this point, I would have lynched chez for being a retard. Chez can now say he made a genius play by doing this after it was too late to swap votes

Then the play that ended the game came. Malongo didn't off Judge. This was the major play of the game that saved the town. None of the Mafia had any incentive to switch off of Judge because it made 0 sense - Judge looked guilty. If he died and flipped whatever he was (I knew he wasn't a Medic) Zato was going to be fucked royally (well, probably not with the way the town was playing). L still had a decent alibi saying he wanted to see what the plan was. Malongo was surely going to live no matter what, and we would have went into the next night sailing smooth with some good targets to hit.


yes, amazing play by malongo

Chezinu role claims the next day, and then Zato does right after. This was SWEET for us because no matter what Chez said it wasn't going to stick. I went to bed knowing it was highly possible for chez to die.


mistake 3. Going over all the possible scenarios, it was an extremely easy decision to hit mikey then vig chez if necessary. You keep playing under the assumption that killing all claimers is the best way to go about it and that's made you make many mistakes this game.

So all in all I think we did well considering the town had 0 clue what was going on, and it was Malongo's play and Chez's Ids that got the game sealed away. The town was making mistake after mistake and before this time frame no one was doing anything.


The best players will make you think they played like shit and just get lucky while in reality, they're so many levels ahead of you that you can't begin to comprehend what they're thinking. Your continual cries to lynch the claimer hurt you badly because everyone could ignore you instead of having to respond to constructive play.
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