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SugiuraMidori
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On October 21 2009 13:32 Tricode wrote: I hate having to keep putting my head upside to read this. (though it is humorous) Please stop though lol. ˙ɐıɟɐɯ ƃuıpuıɟ ɟo sǝdoɥ uı ʎɹʇ oʇ ɥɔıɥʍ ɹoɟ ɔıʇɔɐʇ pıןɐʌ ʎןʇuǝɔǝp-ıɯǝs ɐ sı ʇı 'sǝpısǝq (: ¿sn ɟo ʇsǝɹ ǝɥʇ ǝʞıן ʎןןɐɯɹou ʇı pɐǝɹ ʇ,uɐɔ noʎ ǝɯoɔ ʍoH | ||
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I've only played a couple games before this, but it could come in handy I guess (with bodyguards). I can tell my strategy has already caught the attention of a few, but it could be unwanted attention! | ||
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On October 21 2009 13:37 Tricode wrote: I can read it normally, but then i debate how can i read what you write faster. It is no way or form a valid way of finding mafia...though if you can teach me how to write upside down I would appreciate it  I wrote a script to do it in IRC (in mIRC) and just copy-paste it from there to here. An alternative choice though.. Google! | ||
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Now I must eat dinner, I await your responses my dear Shikyo~ | ||
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2. Foolishness 3. Ace <-- Acting like a non-red Ace 4. vx70GTOJudgexv <-- Acting like the blue Judge we know from before 5. RebirthofLegend <-- Small chance of being red, however, due to the poor plan to out all the Veterans and DT's. 6. Bloodyc0bbler <-- he's being an annoying senseless post-rhymer because he has nothing else useful to do for the town and just wants to be lynched out of here. 7. Incognito 8. Amber[Light] <-- Not too bright, rare posts, not massively interested in the game? 9. Pyrrhuloxia <-- too much goofing around compared to when he's red 10. L <-- Trying to rule the world, evil man, useless arguments, mafia. 11. Tricode <-- Trying to keep himself alive because he's useful, but can't be mafia cuz they'd be slapping him around for being a douche. 12. Vivi57 <-- knew far too soon that tricode was non-red 13. Infundibulum <-- acting reasonably smart. 14. Sugiuramidori <-- Me  15. Scamp 16. Shikyo <-- Not acting anything like his previous games were he wasn't red, and also it's perhaps his turn to try being red. 17. Caller 19. Redtooth 20. Heavonearth 21. Chezinu <-- On and on about his stupid brown stuff, vibe I get is he's red. (no useful posts either) This is my first list of suspects that I have gathered from reading all the posts up till now (except for the lamers and their poetry which I refuse to read from how poor it is). List is of course incomplete.. and blue and green are potentially swappable. Did my best at picking out the four reds, the other people would fall as either blue or green, and I'll refine the list later.[Note]: This is what I've gathered just from reading the grammar and methods of peoples speech patterns. | ||
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On October 23 2009 10:02 HeavOnEarth wrote: and i totally did not get a comment. -sad- Stop calling me a 'dude' then ;P | ||
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On October 23 2009 10:01 HeavOnEarth wrote: like , dude there's probably 3 ish blues not 7 lol Like I said, interchangeable, and with how Qatol has done it before with all blues, I figure it's perhaps blue heavy. | ||
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@Amber[Light]:: ʇəʎ ןןɐ ʇɐ ɐəpı ou pɐɥ ʎəɥʇ ɟı ʞɔəɥɔ pןnoɔ ʎəɥʇ oɥʍ uo sənןɔ s,ʇp əɥʇ əʌıƃ ƃuıɥʇʎuɐ ɟı puɐ 'ʇdɯəʇʇɐ ʇsɹıɟ ɐ əq oʇ pıɐs sɐʍ ʇı uosɐəɹ ɐ sı əɹəɥʇ ˙ʇɹɐd ʎɯ uo suoıɔıdsns ɹo sƃuıןʞuı sɐʍ ʇı ɟo ɥɔnɯ uəɥʍ op oʇ pɹɐɥ sɐʍ ɥɔıɥʍ 'pəʇʇods ı sƃuıɥʇ əɥʇ ɹoɟ suosɐəɹ ppɐ oʇ ƃuıʎɹʇ ʎןɹɐəɯ sɐʍ ı | ||
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On October 23 2009 16:16 Chezinu wrote: For the annoyance of it all, I will type in colors till the upsidedownness ends. ¡ɹəɥʇəƃoʇ ʞɔɐq ɯəɥʇ ʎouuɐ uɐɔ əʍ 'pooƃ sı ɥɔıɥʍ 'sdoʇs ʎɹʇəod pıdnʇs əɥʇ ןןıʇ doʇs ʇ,uoʍ noʎ ʎxoɹd ʎq suɐəɯ ʇɐɥʇ 'səpısəq puɐ px sɹnoʎ dn ədʎʇ oʇ sɹɐəʎ noʎ səʞɐʇ ʇı ʇəq ı 'sıɥʇ ədʎʇ oʇ ןןɐ ʇɐ əɯıʇ ou əɯ səʞɐʇ ʇı 'puıɯ ʇ,uop ı | ||
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now he is getting pissed off that he might get lynched (haiku's > *) | ||
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but this type is more like a joint of two haiku's without rest which I still think are the best but we still need Shikyo at gunpoint | ||
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that there was a game to play to find out his side Shikyo I know best so I made Shikyo my test a circle can start | ||
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more people that I can use so that town can win the bigger our group the faster we can absorb the better we'll win I will have to wait till after the day lynch falls to trust someone else although there are tons people being suspicious we have to pick four | ||
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productively till late game because he's afraid | ||
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setting himself up as the first dead mafia | ||
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has cast light on our Ace mess lets hope we can follow | ||
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1. Dreamflower 3. Ace <-- He admitted this, but how true is it? 4. vx70GTOJudgexv 5. RebirthofLegend 6. Bloodyc0bbler 7. Incognito 8. Amber[Light] 9. Pyrrhuloxia <-- becoming suspiciously more red.. in Chez's terms, he's brown 10. L 11. Tricode 12. Vivi57 <-- We all know he's red now. 13. Infundibulum 14. Sugiuramidori <-- not red 15. Scamp 16. Shikyo <--10% red 18. Motbob <-- mostly based on what others have pointed out as a probability 19. Redtooth <-- not blue 20. Heavonearth <-- not red 21. Chezinu Something that surely must be seen we don't know if HeavonEarth is green motbob is still alive! mafia will thrive we need the town to be more keen | ||
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have not seen a post from scamp since page twenty five nor have we seen any nor word or note from incog since twenty seven | ||
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I don't think anyone really noticed my last post with a slightly changed list of names with colors due to the flaming, but I am still rather confident that vivi gave himself away as a mafia on day one when he was basically the first person to openly say that tricode is not red while the entire town kept on about him being red. I will go upon the basis that I subliminally role-claimed to Shikyo, and Chez already knew what I was, and that I'm not dead, that they aren't mafia either. So that's at least three of us you can use, Pyrr, for giving BG names (if you are still interested in doing so.) I know this actually puts me at risk, and them too, if I die (if one of them dies and isn't red, wouldn't that claim my innocence as well? --I don't know how y'all think.) I still haven't seen much from redtooth to indicate him being non-red, but I do bet he's not blue (mostly from Ace's rants). At this point I am inclined to agree there are no VETs, and it seems something Qatol would do to us ^_^ He is a tricksy one when it comes to making role-counts for the game (case in point the all-blue game). In order to balance out the sanity stuff, having no VETs that can safely role-claim and then be med-protected would work rather well. It would be neat if all the DT's could find each-other out and then role check the same person, it would give every DT a knowledge of, within 2/6, their sanity (due to grouping, they'd all have similar sanities... after that, they would NEVER check the same person, each making a list of groups--red, blue, green-- and if anyone in any of those groups got killed, it would have the cascading effect of ALL DT's knowing their sanity in an instant just due to comparisons of the original check). But I think this would take too long to do, even with a much slower game due to a 2KP set. Now of course, knocking out one mafia like vivi doesn't change the KP, but perhaps can get us closer to winning? So for now, there's my DT plan if they want to try it, if it's even possible. | ||
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Also, anyone that abstains is probably mafia, they shall all perish in the fires of hell. | ||
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VIVI57 Please at least try to listen to me for once :/ I know I fooled everyone in my first game when I was red, but I'm not red anymore, so fooling people isn't a requirement anymore.... (also being red is too easy, my role now is substantially harder). | ||
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1. Dreamflower 4. vx70GTOJudgexv 5. RebirthofLegend 6. Bloodyc0bbler 7. Incognito <--????? 8. Amber[Light] 9. Pyrrhuloxia 10. L 11. Tricode 12. Vivi57 <-- same as redtooth 13. Infundibulum 14. Sugiuramidori <-- not red (Shikyo and Chez know my role) 15. Scamp <---?????? 16. Shikyo <--10% red 18. Motbob <-- mostly based on what others have pointed out as a probability 19. Redtooth <-- same as vivi 20. Heavonearth <-- not red 21. Chezinu ????? == haven't seen many posts from them to analyze role | ||
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1. Dreamflower 4. vx70GTOJudgexv 5. RebirthofLegend 6. Bloodyc0bbler 7. Incognito <--????? 8. Amber[Light] 9. Pyrrhuloxia 10. L 11. Tricode 12. Vivi57 <-- same as redtooth 13. Infundibulum 14. Sugiuramidori <-- not red (Shikyo and Chez know my role) 15. Scamp <---?????? 16. Shikyo <--10% red 18. Motbob <-- mostly based on what others have pointed out as a probability 19. Redtooth <-- same as vivi 20. Heavonearth <-- not red 21. Chezinu | ||
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This would imply, if my list is correct, that Ace was a DT with a proper role for Blues, meaning that Judge is indeed what Ace checked him to be. Someone please post what that was, otherwise I'll grab it later after class. AND FOR THE BILLIONTH TIME... I'M A GIRL, SO STOP SAYING HE/HIS/HIM ;_; | ||
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Silly L, keep up! | ||
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/me adds L to her deathnote | ||
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The list is formed from my reading of how people talk in their posts, and how grammar is being used (hence the rhyme posts were a waste of time to analyze, same for flaming). What I try to do is gather a reasonable hint on who the town needs to lynch, not that, as we've clearly noticed, anyone follows me since I'm not some fancy "Vet" player. Following the clues as best I can I also make an effort to group people by how they act with each other as well, which I could have used the flaming posts to read, but that was lamesauce anyhow. That is why I can easily group a lot of the folk as either green or blue, and what I feel like are reds (as well as what others are saying if my analysis is incomplete). If you do notice my first one, I listed Foolish as non-red and Caller as red... so I made a mistake there, but at least I wasn't fool enough to lynch Ace when I could tell he wasn't lying his butt off to fake y'all out (as if he was red). However, those that voted for Ace are suspect in two ways, they knew what I knew (that Ace was truthful and was a DT and are red and wanted him gone) or they were bigots ... I'd say there were some that didn't want to read his shit anymore, but I didn't vote for him, so that's not as valid. ;P | ||
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On October 28 2009 09:31 Incognito wrote: ... Also Why am I the only non colored person on that list? As I said, I haven't seen enough legit posting from you to place you either way, majority of the rest are gut feelings.. so maybe you just don't belong!! HEHE J/K However, with what you just said, you aren't blue.. red or green are more likely ;P | ||
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5. RebirthofLegend 6. Bloodyc0bbler 8. Amber[Light] 9. Pyrrhuloxia 10. L 11. Tricode 12. Vivi57 <-- same as redtooth 13. Infundibulum 14. Sugiuramidori <-- not red (Shikyo and Chez know my role) 15. Scamp <---?????? 16. Shikyo <--10% red 18. Motbob <-- mostly based on what others have pointed out as a probability 19. Redtooth <-- same as vivi 20. Heavonearth <-- not red 21. Chezinu So far my success rate has been 50/50 I guess :/ Sorry town. I'm still voting Vivi though. | ||
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IF YOU SUSPECT REDTOOTH YOU HAVE TO SUSPECT VIVI AND VICE VERSA Please kill these mafia already... | ||
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5. RebirthofLegend 6. Bloodyc0bbler 8. Amber[Light] 9. Pyrrhuloxia 10. L <-- just claimed as Vet role 11. Tricode 12. Vivi57 <-- same as redtooth 13. Infundibulum 14. Sugiuramidori <-- not red (Shikyo and Chez know my role) 15. Scamp 16. Shikyo <--10% red 18. Motbob <-- mostly based on what others have pointed out as a probability 19. Redtooth <-- same as vivi 20. Heavonearth <-- not red 21. Chezinu | ||
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On October 28 2009 13:32 Shikyo wrote: Even though your list makes sense otherwise... Scamp, Redtooth, Vivi, Judge doesn't really... seem like a likely mafia team. Then again, I guess that doesn't really matter. Eh, I'm not 100% convinced from others that Scamp is red... as it is others saying he is. As for the mafia team, we're talking about a partially influenced Qatol instance.. I know him better than any of you, he'd have no problem making a quirky but very balanced game. | ||
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On October 28 2009 13:36 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: lol What are you saying? He was either hit by the mafia or the MadHatter. DF Either put a bomb on Judge and L, or Judge and Incognito. The mafia definitely used one hit on DF which activated (her?) bombs which hit either L and Judge, or Judge and Incognito. This is all assuming that L was actually protected/Veteran last night and that DF planted two bombs already (which is possible) The mafia also could of targeted Judge, however the last two things are highly unlikely. I doubt the mafia hit one of there own and if you look in DF's past posts, (She?) said she agreed with L on something, although that was very early on so her opinion could of changed. I didn't see any comments on incognito though. This could be likely actually, DF having a bomb on L, since till now I had L as red on my list.. (he could be lying of course and get the mafia to win, but that's not something I can assess atm, I'm more apt to believe him finally claiming Vet role.) However, the bomb on Judge didn't come from my list since I never figured him as mafia ;_; Dang, here I was thinking I was being close to 70% accurate. | ||
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On October 28 2009 13:39 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: I keep asking why you keep repeating this. Is it that they have been voting identically? You haven't asked yet, but Shikyo just did in a PM so I guess no one has figured it out yet. I'm not going to roleclaim, as it IS one of the rules.... They have never once argued against each other in anything, and their posts are rather evenly interspersed within the thread, almost as if they're one person taking turns making a short burst of posts before retreating to the shadows... seems like mafia behavior to me. Additionally, we can note that Judge and Scamp have behaved similarly, although in a much quieter way. | ||
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On October 28 2009 15:15 Scamp wrote: That scenario might make the most sense but it's wrong. The mafia hit Incognito and Dreamflower, unless the way the deaths are described have no meaning. There may not be clues, but the way they died is still valid. Also don't forget that L could simply be lying. Wow, is it just me or does everything about this post just scream mafia... gg Scamp He clearly talks about the mafia like he is part of it.. if no one else can see this... I dunno what's up with you xD | ||
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If Vivi is voting for Chez, he clearly knows Chez isn't red, as who else would vote for a teammate so early on in the day? PUH-LEAZE~ | ||
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On October 28 2009 18:35 motbob wrote: ??? vivi is confirmed? I've obviously missed something So is redtooth, they're both on the same team, like I've been saying for some time now :/ You can't have one without the other, they're partners in crime. | ||
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On October 29 2009 07:47 Qatol wrote: More like a town of the undead! I still roam the streets! And I already know I'm a vampire! | ||
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All right then, I'm having a heck of a time trying to figure something out now... maybe town can help better... So here I lay out my thoughts as best I can.. I know that Vivi and Redtooth are on the same team because they both checked as blue, meaning they're the same color. Since the town has been adamant about one or the other having been red almost all game, I figured that blue meant red (implying I'm either paranoid or crooked). However, and this is something I really don't know how to explain, but with a little help from a PM from tricode made a bit of sense... I have had a gut feeling that Shikyo is doing a hella good job as GF and been playing me this whole time since I generally trust him ever since the game where he was Mayer and I was Mafia. Additionally, Tricode mentioned that Pyrr has still been acting suspiciously and thus could be red (fitting with needing a vet on the mafia team) and then there's Chez, whom others have been saying is acting exactly like when he was red in another game.... This kind of leaves us with two options, each of which has nearly equal consequences: 1) I am right about my sanity, due to town and my own observations we somehow managed to find two living red players that I conveniently checked and saw they are on the same team. 2) I'm totally wrong about my sanity and my gut feelings should be used.. In the case of (2) we would end up voting with something based on a gut feeling instead of possible fact, perhaps nabbing a mafia, and of course everyone would like a red team of Pyrr, Chez, and Shikyo better than a red team of Vivi57, redtooth, Scamp which has no obvious vet players (since we must add judge) ... the latter option of course would confirm my sanity, be more unbelievable, and possibly not get us any mafia killed. If Pyrr had bothered to tell us the bodyguards, and pretend it's Vivi and Redtooth for a moment, well for some miraculous reason I checked them and they are on the same team.. meaning that mafia subbed in two reds or no reds.. which Pyrr of course couldn't tell us (and sure wouldn't if he was red ^_^) I seriously don't know what to do with these checks, and I can obviously only confirm that they are on the same team since they both came up blue (meaning one of them is NOT the GF) and just now I realized that one could be a non-red and the other a godfather.. I really don't know how to interpret this now.. I was so sure before, but now I'm lost.. please help town :/ | ||
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On October 29 2009 10:49 Tricode wrote: Pyrr, why are you using 2 votes this time? My dear Tricode, it is a well known fact, and one Qatol forgot to observe till now, that the Mayor counts for two votes. I'm sorry Shikyo, I guess I just see you as a good player, on my level, pardon the overestimation. | ||
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Well, at least, if I do die, and Vivi is the one lynched, at least you can connect w/e Vivi is to what Redtooth is. For a while I thought Chez was another hatter, but after what Shikyo mentioned.. I'm not sure. Then again, I really can't seem to trust my own judgment atm, so I'd really rather wait to see what happens before I have better reasoning behind everything. Once we get Vivi's color, I get my sanity, and I can group everyone based on the PM's I've had, as well as the rest of the towns inferences. | ||
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Hopefully I'll do this right~ | ||
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On October 30 2009 11:12 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: well, i'll be dipped in shit. ROFL .. nice pun | ||
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( I was correct on: Ace, and Chez, and Dreamflower; Indescisive on: Incog, Scamp, and Caller; Correct in non-red sense on: Foolish Wrong on: Judge We are yet unsure on the rest ) + Show Spoiler + On October 23 2009 09:59 SugiuraMidori wrote: 1. Dreamflower 2. Foolishness 3. Ace <-- Acting like a non-red Ace 4. vx70GTOJudgexv <-- Acting like the blue Judge we know from before 5. RebirthofLegend <-- Small chance of being red, however, due to the poor plan to out all the Veterans and DT's. 6. Bloodyc0bbler <-- he's being an annoying senseless post-rhymer because he has nothing else useful to do for the town and just wants to be lynched out of here. 7. Incognito 8. Amber[Light] <-- Not too bright, rare posts, not massively interested in the game? 9. Pyrrhuloxia <-- too much goofing around compared to when he's red 10. L <-- Trying to rule the world, evil man, useless arguments, mafia. 11. Tricode <-- Trying to keep himself alive because he's useful, but can't be mafia cuz they'd be slapping him around for being a douche. 12. Vivi57 <-- knew far too soon that tricode was non-red 13. Infundibulum <-- acting reasonably smart. 14. Sugiuramidori <-- Me 15. Scamp 16. Shikyo <-- Not acting anything like his previous games were he wasn't red, and also it's perhaps his turn to try being red. 17. Caller 19. Redtooth 20. Heavonearth 21. Chezinu <-- On and on about his stupid brown stuff, vibe I get is he's red. (no useful posts either) 2nd ( Pretty much the same as in the 1st case After RC on Redtooth ) + Show Spoiler + On October 25 2009 10:30 SugiuraMidori wrote: Still sticking to this list with small modifications: 1. Dreamflower 3. Ace <-- He admitted this, but how true is it? 4. vx70GTOJudgexv 5. RebirthofLegend 6. Bloodyc0bbler 7. Incognito 8. Amber[Light] 9. Pyrrhuloxia <-- becoming suspiciously more red.. in Chez's terms, he's brown 10. L 11. Tricode 12. Vivi57 <-- We all know he's red now. 13. Infundibulum 14. Sugiuramidori <-- not red 15. Scamp 16. Shikyo <--10% red 18. Motbob <-- mostly based on what others have pointed out as a probability 19. Redtooth <-- not blue 20. Heavonearth <-- not red 21. Chezinu 3rd ( Changed my Chez assumption to Blue based on not dieing after he told me in PM he knew my role After the RC on Vivi57 ) + Show Spoiler + On October 28 2009 13:22 SugiuraMidori wrote: Not to spam.. but I guess I should update my list.... 5. RebirthofLegend 6. Bloodyc0bbler 8. Amber[Light] 9. Pyrrhuloxia 10. L <-- just claimed as Vet role 11. Tricode 12. Vivi57 <-- same as redtooth 13. Infundibulum 14. Sugiuramidori <-- not red (Shikyo and Chez know my role) 15. Scamp 16. Shikyo <--10% red 18. Motbob <-- mostly based on what others have pointed out as a probability 19. Redtooth <-- same as vivi 20. Heavonearth <-- not red 21. Chezinu On October 28 2009 11:00 SugiuraMidori wrote: Wow.... 5. RebirthofLegend 6. Bloodyc0bbler 8. Amber[Light] 9. Pyrrhuloxia 10. L 11. Tricode 12. Vivi57 <-- same as redtooth 13. Infundibulum 14. Sugiuramidori <-- not red (Shikyo and Chez know my role) 15. Scamp <---?????? 16. Shikyo <--10% red 18. Motbob <-- mostly based on what others have pointed out as a probability 19. Redtooth <-- same as vivi 20. Heavonearth <-- not red 21. Chezinu And now: Firstly, I am changing all instances of blue to green because I don't need the mafia knowing what else I know from PM's. Unless of course it's from a public claim or death, in which case all the town knows anyhow and gets to asses. 5. RebirthofLegend 6. Bloodyc0bbler <-- Used him for my sanity check.. so blame him if I'm wrong. 8. Amber[Light] 9. Pyrrhuloxia 10. L <-- Claimed as such, we should all believe what we must 11. Tricode 12. Vivi57 <-- Same as Redtooth 13. Infundibulum <-- I'm pretty damn sure he's blue if L is blue 14. Sugiuramidori 15. Scamp <-- Do we know? 16. Shikyo <-- PM stuff, he wholeheartedly believed that Chez wasn't red, and knew about Chez spreading the false PM's (and even asked Shikyo if they were any good) 18. Motbob 19. Redtooth <-- Same as Vivi57 20. Heavonearth So I'm going to go on a limb here and guess that I'm Crooked, too scared to claim it to mods and have them tell me for sure, not that it matters since I wouldn't get much out of it. Vivi57 != Redtooth iff one is GF Town still has suspicions on: L, Pyrr, and Amber.. however, I'd like to think that Pyrr is innocent since he was the FIRST to vote for Chez, and then ran away to hide in a corner.. that's pretty harsh to do to your own team. As for L, we'll see, and for Amber.. it came from BC, who is probably the town 'pro player' EDIT== Fixed a lost /quote tag iff == if and only if (for those that don't know) | ||
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If folks would like to help choose who I check each night from now on, that's fine too. | ||
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On October 30 2009 12:32 L wrote: Are you confirmed with your sanity at this point? To the point that I know colors, yes.. but what a Blue specifically is doesn't matter, so why should I risk it in case we later find something that contradicts what BC said he was and thus having had been wrong on my sanity. This way I keep getting "mystery" roles returned to me, but I know what they are color wise. I'm sure the mods hadn't intended for this, but I meh.. by rules they can't change what they've been doing unless I were to claim the wrong sanity... So I will continue to know all the colors fine, but yeh.. the type of blue doesn't matter for a damn, only the base colors do. HOWEVER, If we had numbers, then it could perhaps matter for zeroing in on the GF, but since they're obsessed with "? of ?" numbering now, it doesn't matter in the least. | ||
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On October 30 2009 16:47 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Im totally down for that. With the new day, both dts should be confirmed, as well as a few targets. I would say we should get a list of potential red suspects to have a look over posts to see if we can narrow a list down, or not. I wonder if anyone saw my previous DT Plan post (it was sort of hidden amongst another post) so I wonder if the other DT would like to follow that? I worry that there are not two medics to protect us both so I would guess it pertinent you use a voice or the like for your findings. | ||
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THANK YOU MEDIC!!~~ So mafia Is definitely after me ;P So we going on double lynch and who? | ||
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5. RebirthofLegend 8. Amber[Light] 9. Pyrrhuloxia 10. L <-- Claimed as Vet 11. Tricode 12. Vivi57 <-- Same as Redtooth 13. Infundibulum <-- I'm pretty damn sure he's blue if L is blue 14. Sugiuramidori 15. Scamp <-- Do we know? 16. Shikyo <-- He is only red if he's the GF (like I've suspected all along......) 18. Motbob 19. Redtooth <-- Same as Vivi57 20. Heavonearth Bold == a RC was involved. | ||
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So of the unchecked people from my side (that is known publicly).. we have: RoL, Amber, Pyrr, L, Tricode, Infun, Scamp, Motbob, HoE. Of these.. I can't recall anything from HoE in a long time. Of my checked, possible GF is of course: Shikyo, Vivi, or Redtooth.. but only one of them has that possibility, rest are innocent. If we do have another DT (would mean there were 3 this game) they can help divvy up the rest of my unchecked.. however that takes us to around 3 nights to do (lynches etc taking away ppl). Opinions? | ||
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I know the town has been suspect over Scamp for some time, but I don't see how RoL is a better choice over say.. Pyrr or Shikyo that folks have been mentioning for some time now. I also only mention Infun has he was suspicious about the "what about the other posts" mention after L showed off his PM's, which to me sounds a lot like he knew there was more because he was the other person and perhaps something important was said. Also, HoE no longer has any reason to not be making posts here unless he's red or green. | ||
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On November 01 2009 16:40 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: double post edit: What my point is when I say that L roleclaimed and is still alive: that by checking him he can actually be confirmed against what he says without him dying. Not that the mafia hasn't killed him yet. This way we can actually be sure about something rather than just taking his word on it. So who is Sugiura checking tonight? 1)) I am Crooked Sanity, already took care of that. 2)) Checked Shikyo the moment night post was there, he came back as blue (not going to say the type), so still a chance at GF. | ||
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On November 01 2009 18:29 motbob wrote: One thing to note: the Chez vote doesn't absolve either Pyrr or RoL (or me for that matter) completely. They might have just been sacing Chez, although that's sort of unlikely. And ya, RoL isn't the best candidate for lynch. Y'all are right. I'll probably just vote for Scamp at first when day breaks. Don't forget we still get two votes. So we can also add one of these: Vivi, Pyrr, L, etc as you guys choose.. (though I think we need to make a choice sooner rather than later so we can speed the game along a bit. My fun time is really only at night ;P | ||
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On November 02 2009 03:44 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: oh, i'm sorry. when i read this after the lynch i thought you meant that you still didn't know your sanity after he died. apologies I didn't actually, I was holding out... but then I did the calculations of a GF wanting to show up as a red... and the odds were stupid low xD So I decided to claim crooked and get all the right roles, etc. | ||
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5. RebirthofLegend 8. Amber[Light] 9. Pyrrhuloxia 10. L <-- Claimed as Vet 11. Tricode 12. Vivi57 <-- Same as Redtooth 14. Sugiuramidori 15. Scamp 16. Shikyo <-- He is only red if he's the GF (like I've suspected all along......) 18. Motbob 19. Redtooth <-- Same as Vivi57 20. Heavonearth Bold == a RC was involved. Going to just change Scamp's color to green until we know more for sure. I'm pretty sure that, based on our circle, L is legit, and RoL is a confirmed green. Someone mentioned Amber is the other Bodyguard, I personally think that's shenanigans, and it'd mean he was perhaps red if mafia made a sub-in... but if he's not, we're making Pyrr open to hits, which is a bad thing. I still have a feeling tricode is blue but I don't know what blue roles are left, maybe he's the medic (if we had more than one which seems likely), another hatter, the other DT? It has been mentioned that Pyrr is probably rather innocent, however, due to his rapid vote on Chez. So, I'll toss this out there, and these are all MY thoughts.. Shikyo flipped DT once I claimed my sanity, so this means he is the other DT, or he is the GF... and the reason I'm thinking it is possible he could be a GF claiming DT is that he'd get a rather good ability to toss out random 'checks' because of the sanity stuff we have for DT's. Picking a color for someone is easy if you don't have to pin a role on a blue (because you only get that with a correct sanity type or claimed sanity). It seems more likely that tricode is the other DT and is keeping quiet. So for todays Lynch we have: HoE, motbob, Scamp, tricode, Amber, Shikyo I agree with RoL on HoE and motbob as they've been really inactive lately despite being allowed to stay around. I mean.. you get banned, and are then allowed to come back just to play the game.. and then you don't talk.. gimme a break... | ||
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On November 02 2009 11:13 motbob wrote: ...I got the old team (you and Pyrr) to vote for Chez and you want to kill me? There are better lynch candidates. Hell, based on the fact that I pretty much singlehandedly got a mafia lynched I thought I was hovering around "confirmed town" levels. You make a valid point.. so HoE and Scamp? | ||
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Day 1 (Mayor/Pard) L Scamp Day 2 L motbob Day 3 .,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,. Day 4 iNfuNdiBuLuM Redtooth Heavonearth All I really want to mess with atm, need sleep.. get to work town! | ||
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On November 03 2009 10:19 Ver wrote: Sorry I've been away for a bit, updating OP now. I like how we still have 2 of 2 bodyguards left, thanks for continuing to show that you and math just don't get along, Ver ;P | ||
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On November 03 2009 11:27 Scamp wrote: No, I don't. But that's not the point I'm trying to make. There seems to be a lot of decision making that is being kept secret from the town. Pyrr had some reasoning to vote for Chez that he revealed after the vote. It would have been nice to have that information before the vote. Now apparently there was a plan to keep the vote close to see if anyone would reveal themselves by voting at the last second. Awesome. Again there is probably a wealth of information to be had but if there is it's being kept secret. Now we're voting on the pretense that we're bound to hit a mafia if we just vote a whole group of people off. Excellent. We are in a good situation so let's just nuke the island and pick off mafia in a random blast. What is the point of all this secrecy? The mafia only has one KP a night, we have a medic out there somewhere, we have a veteran who's afraid to speak pubically, and we have multiple DTs figuring out things as we go. Unless there's something I'm missing, all the mafia have in their favor right now is a godfather. But if we play scared and hide all the information we have, this will just cause confusion among the town that aren't "in the loop." I try to share at least a portion of what is going on without releasing everyone's roles, if you don't feel that is enough please ask more and I'll pass it on if it really was discussed. There really isn't much going on atm other than confirming that I'd be protected from now on and that Shikyo is suspect. Which, I recall, I quite clearly shared my thoughts openly.. if that isn't enough for you.. then maybe you are just being a paranoid lynch magnet ;P | ||
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After that I stopped the whole rant against vivi and red and realized they were more likely town than red, unless one is the GF (just as unlikely). | ||
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On November 04 2009 10:08 Scamp wrote: I had to check the PM I sent you. Re-reading it, I didn't really make it clear as to the intent of the PM. It was more so that someone had the info that Infun claimed medic and protected L the night he claimed he got hit and protected by a medic. I wasn't fully convinced, though, that Infun wasn't just using me to go after L. So there are two possibilities I see from this.... Mafia noticed my list where I said I was damn sure Infun was blue if L was... OR Pyrr or you knew and nuked him to make it so I no longer had protection for future nights, as I'm clearly a hamper to mafia having a sure-fire win. | ||
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I will remember this!!! but alas, night is 'bout over, and unless mafia comes out swinging their bats, it looks like Shikyo and HoE will be riding the Styx tonight. | ||
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On November 04 2009 10:36 Ver wrote: About the voting: Voting has ended at 10 KST except for Pyrr. He asked me something right before the deadline and it took me a bit to answer and I told him that he could vote after he got my answer (about mayor votes). Unfortunately it seems he is having connection problems or something as he keeps going online and offline so I won't wait much longer. edit: L's vote counts too since I had to delay it anyway and his earlier misvote was because I messed something up in the vote counts. Sorry for all the trouble guys Yeh, Pyrrs votes should count for 2, even in a double lynch.. so that adds 1 for each of those columns.. might want to change the counts to reflect that. | ||
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On November 04 2009 10:55 Ver wrote: Pyrr notified me that he only wants to use 1 vote each. I did screw up the voting stuff sorry guys but in the end I believe everything works out. HoE and Scamp are being lynched post up in a sec. Since when is that ever been allowed..................? Last I heard, when Qatol was telling me he forgot about it, was that ALL his votes count double because he's mayor.. and it doesn't even say in the game rules that they can choose to deny that 2x rule... so srsly.. WTF If it is, then that's bullshit, and we lynch Pyrr next. | ||
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On November 04 2009 13:51 L wrote: well, to be fair, I was also the one that pushed him to the tie breaker. I voted because scamp wasn't on the no-vote list, so I assumed he voted (i checked if he voted shikyo to see if he could swing the vote too) if anyone had the balls to kill someone who could have been a DT, we would have had a good suspect to go on today, but then Ver's voting hilarity kinda got in the way, because scamp didn't actually vote for anyone. Him voting for himself totally ruined what I was trying to do, so I just brought things back to the pre-me intervention status. I was actually going to vote for him, then abstain to re-tie things with scamp ahead as was previously desired, but I was pretty much the last vote so I didn't bother. Either way, we need to get rolling on checking shikyo, so sugi plz stop being afk :3 Pfft, I was far too pissed off at the bullshit mayor shit to want to make a post, I really would rather have seen Shikyo die than Scamp. I did the check on tricode as you asked.. and if he turns red I will be damn surprised, and it will once again swing invitation against Vivi due to his early-moment backing that Tricode was innocent that first day/night. If not, I think we know that Shikyo, L, Amber, or Pyrr need to sail the river Styx. I get the strange feeling RedTooth is going to get modkilled, not sure on motbob. That's all for now, my temper and sadness about an old flame really doesn't have me in the mood right now. | ||
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On November 04 2009 12:42 Ver wrote: We've messed up Pyrr's votes a bunch this game. Our fault, not his. I thought the precedent was that mayors could choose when/how to use their votes. To avoid further complications we'll just be going with that. In future votes if Pyrr could say whether he wants to use on or both of his votes that'd be great and we could avoid further problems then so long as Qatol is the one doing votecounts. Heh, apparently Qatol said that it hadn't mattered, that you'd forgotten, but would keep up with it from now.. he double checked all the past votes to make sure it hadn't changed anything. | ||
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On November 04 2009 15:11 L wrote: What. Didn't you say you wanted to hold your rolecheck back so that we could have a third party give both of you someone random to check so we could see if he had DT powers or not? Yes I realize that too late now, I don't think well when I'm in a really bad mood and just act on impulse.. shit happens, we'll manage.. :/ | ||
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On November 04 2009 19:24 Qatol wrote: Us forgetting the double vote didn't matter before. This time it did. This is our screwup. Sorry! And yes, we have had mayors not use all of their votes before or splitting them among multiple people. I did that as mayor once. (Actually, I think I remember a movement by the town to try and force me to not use my extra votes.) Notice that in the rules the mayor is given an extra vote, not a double vote. As such, the mayor gets to choose what to do with his additional vote; it doesn't necessarily follow that the mayor will always want to 2x vote for someone. In the future I'll just make sure it's me doing the votecounts and not Ver. Also, to avoid confusion, I will be marking the extra vote as an abstain if Pyrr does not wish to use it (he would then appear twice in the votecount). Ohhhh, okay, that makes sense then.. Just don't overdo it when you got so much HW. | ||
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Who knew of both medics the entire time? L and Shikyo.... They---the medics---died double fast and shouldn't have.. they're---L and Shikyo---far better suspects than Amber. Yes, I screwed up our "3rd-party" Shikyo verification, but you try not being emotional when you realize you've "lost" someone you love... kthx Now I think it's easier to lynch Shikyo now, I check L at night and post that (as they will kill me since we have no medics, so it's my last check).. if Shikyo comes back as red after the lynch, then we know L is GF so I won't check him, if Shikyo has that 20% chance to come back as DT, than we will know L is the GF. Nothing else makes sense to me. Something I'd like to point out... Shikyo hasn't responded to claims recently and has been steadily talking less.. and L isn't defending himself either. On of them is the GF, and one or both are red. So this is basically the last day for me, hope town can be more affirmative, but until I see otherwise, I'm going with what I think. Keep in mind, I've thought Shikyo was red/GF from day 1... just sayin' | ||
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8. Amber[Light] (BG 2/2) <-- Publicly known as BG now 9. Pyrrhuloxia <-- Sorry excuse for a mayer 10. L <-- Claimed as Vet (I call bs) 11. Tricode <-- Was checked during a quick fit of rage 12. Vivi57 <-- Came back Green 14. Sugiuramidori (DT 2/2) <-- So going to die now, I hope Qatol gets to kill me, he knows what I wanted for my death 16. Shikyo <-- Came back DT 18. Motbob 19. Redtooth <-- Came back Green Bold == a RC was involved. EDIT=Added strikeout to RoL | ||
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On November 05 2009 17:07 Vivi57 wrote: I'm pretty sure if amber is mafia, he's just a red Otherwise, that basically forces motbob to be the last red. I'm still not sure why people thought shikyo > L for the gf. Also, can someone tell me what shikyo's checks were and when he confirmed his sanity? Same thing I told Tricode:::: L was "checked" by Shikyo to be Vet a long time ago, and he's been basically going with that for a while. He was sort or the "circles" center-man. Knew about Amber a while ago as well. Shikyo "missed" the night 2 check he could have made if DT. Has checked BC and L that I know of, dunno anyone else more recent. RoL roleclaimed to him, could have been passing that on to L, who knew about InFuN. As I stated, both knew about both medics (even before I did since I only learned of Infun after he died). | ||
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We vote L off the island, give him his canoe, no paddle, and send him down river Styx, etc. That leaves us with two people left to DT check: I check Amber, Shikyo checks motbob. We check them and tell only Tricode (I'm making him the new center, deal with it.) I am going to make a nice long PM to Tricode on how to evaluate the responses he will get (3 possibilities leading to easy circumstances). I will of course die at the hands of mafia unless they are overly generous or something xD Tricode will then give the town both the responses he got from Shikyo and I, which will enable the town to see if Shikyo is full of it or not, and if Amber is a legit BG or an inserted red. He will also either post all the logic I gave him, or just the part that was shown to evaluate true. However... this plan assumes a few things which I think are safe to say everyone realizes by now... But either way, here's all the main possibilities for towns benifit (please add to it if I miss any): 1) Shikyo is a legit DT making L the GF, and Amber a sub-in or motbob the last red. 2) L has blue blood, Shikyo is likely GF and his DT check will be made up. 3) L has blue blood, Shikyo is legit DT, one of the people I checked as green is GF (Tricode, Redtooth, or Vivi57) and Pyrr is also then red if Amber is not. 4) L is blue, Shikyo is DT, Amber/motbob is red, then Pyrr has been playing us all game and is another GF Mayer My guesses on probabilities of likelihood of each: 1) 50% 2) 30% 3) 15% 4) 5% #1-3 will be confirmed via Tricode from Shikyo and I giving him DT checks. #1-4 will be verified by the hanging of L EDIT1:: If L isn't GF, and Tricode and Shikyo don't go along with this.. both are highly suspect of being the GF themselves. EDIT2: If Tricode doesn't match the format of the pm (when pasting) to what I shall pass Vivi and Redtooth, then he's GF. EDIT3: If Amber turns up Blue, I will give him the format as well. This allows him to take lead, and seeing if Tricode is responsible or not can help find the GF. | ||
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As that's what you'll likely be hunting for after Shikyo and I finish our checks. | ||
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On November 05 2009 21:47 Amber[LighT] wrote: I thought you were going to check me last night  I will wait yet another day I guess.... With your intense eagerness to be checked it just seemed unlikely you'd be mafia, so why waste the check? But since there's only two ppl left to check, so it shall be. | ||
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And to be honored to be GF? That'd be pretty awesome.. but I don't think anyone would give me that. You keep thinking my rage wasn't legit, maybe you should get your time machine out and come visit me and see my face and how angry I was at the bullshit that appeared letting Pyrr not have to use the x2 power and getting Scamp x'd instead of Shikyo. Which, IMO, is the BIGGEST CROCK OF SHIT I have ever seen since playing mafia... blatantly changing how the game has been understood because you're screwing up on counting votes in the first place? (Which by the way... Qatol said changed nothing of past votes so it wasn't something that needed a fix.) AND apparently, since you don't believe I was raging, do I need to be a pathetic excuse for a human being like you or Ace and have a curse word every 6 words? I'm sorry that I actually have a bit more tact than that, so take your stupid testosterone and shove it up your pathetic butt... ALSO Pyrr not going on with the x2 votes and being the swing vote for Shikyo/Scamp is more than enough suspicion on Pyrr to kill him too.. but while we're at it, why not kill everyone but myself and Tricode and be done with it.. I don't even know Tricode that well, but it seems stupid he'd be GF at this point. So to me that leaves only the two of us as innocent. ALSO .. you keep whining and whining about it.. and perhaps I shouldn't say this.. but it's Qatol that keeps coming out telling me about my flawed logic, so go whine at him for pointing out I'm being a retard about things such as when I was gung-ho about Vivi and Redtooth being red.. as he's the one that suggested that "why lynch Shikyo on the off chance that he's a legit DT and the town loses their last information checker." Sounded plenty fine to me. And considering, despite being a co-mod to the game, he's prolly a better player than you, and definitely better at logic than I, I always rethought things and changed up a ton, hence why I made that plan this morning after having change the vote to you.. I got the wild idea that making that plan was the only hope for town to win, because I'd already rather given up on the game after the rule bullshit that's been going on... figured I'd try to contribute at least one last thing before mafia gets rid of me. In fact, I'm still rather convinced that the mafia will win, and not the town, and they know it too, hence no gg. At least when I check Amber and Shikyo checks motbob.. town gets a definite answer on who is the red.. and then you can go hunt for GF.. unless Shikyo is full of shit.. hence my plan laid out.. and big friggin deal if you die, get over it, you haven't helped the town any anyhow, you're far more likely a mafia than I ever was. This game really did end when Ace lost control of his vocabulary and the lot of us that got annoyed and had to get the mods to step in, as I was about ready to just stop playing and let a modkill happen so I wouldn't have to deal with it in the future, that's how utterly disgusting it was. But I digress, I'm going to go have a nice weekend at a friends house. I'll be on the train to LA in 3 hours.. that train-ride is 18 hours.. and then I get to my friends and have internet again.. I really hope that the mods understand 100% that I want to check Amber regardless of who goes to river Styx today. Then I will go through with my plan before the night ends, well just before the post is made so as to be legit and not give anyone any chance to tell Shikyo what he should role in case he's GF. Then the night post will happen with me dead, and I even know a great way to do it:: Me in the library reading the rule books and getting staked from behind. Then I can occasionally refresh the thread and watch the town lose if they don't care for my plan, or I slipped up in one small spot (which of course no one has made any attempts to point out). I have a math test I need to work on, 4 Anthropology assignments and a survey-report to do, two LaTeX assignments, and 10 Math HW's to do in the 5 weeks left of school. So I have no problems dieing this late in the game now that I'm most assuredly overwhelmed. | ||
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I never bungled my list, if you bother to read my posts you'll see that I said I was changing all ppl from blue to green. I went fully with trying to convince town that RoL was just a confirmed green.. but so much for that I guess :/ You still choose to ignore that I got the PM saying that I was med-protected one night, at which RoL told me it was him. Mafia hitting me was because I was a public DT. Has mafia bothered to hit Shikyo since we all admitted he was one behind the scenes? NOPE.. <-- This is enough for me to want to lynch Shikyo still, but with Qatol calling me the fool, I am doubting myself.. whether it's a hint or a test, I don't know. I'm overall just tired of the game, and am going to need to take a long break before playing again. Maybe once rules are 100% clear. | ||
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When I said we'd all roleclaimed to each other, I was merely making assumptions based on the fact that I felt I screwed up. Chez gave me some weird post about being a hatter and wanting to live to bomb L and Ace or something for his Brown league of oddballs... so I just sorta went with it for the time. Take note, that the first two days I had Chez as red, it was because of Shikyo that I decided he was probably blue (Shikyo told me he'd helped Chez write that PM). As for what I told Shikyo that I figured he'd pick up on:: "After me accusing you of being mafia so long I figured you'd know I wasn't mafia this time 'round. I was about to be and then Qatol changed me to challenge me with something else. Thus I will be trying to take into account everyone's input this time, kind of important that I do, can't pretend I'm useless anymore :/" And the post regarding Chez: <<SugiuraMidori>> "Yeh, the weird bomb pm? I figured that was reasonably legit roleclaim, but I don't know the guy. But yeh, I don't have much of a feeling for him being red. Just seems he would be dorky enough to be the other Hatter (I think there are two because the mods find it as an amusing role. I'd guess there were 2-3DT, 2MH, Medic, Vig, Vet, the 4M, and the rest green? ----------------------------------------- <<Shikyo>> Original Message: The thing is, Chezinu always acts brown, and he PMed with something that makes me think that he's not mafia because I don't think he'd go through that kind of trouble if he was mafia with his playing style. Also, he PMed both vivi and Scamp because I asked him to. Why would he do that and do as I asked if he was mafia? Indeed, no reason. I definitely trust Chezinu more than I should but I don't think he's acting like Mafia. You can say me and Chezinu are working together but really, including Pyrr is just wrong. More stuff coming tomorrow after my doctor's appointment but please don't be too hasty." How does that not smell like mafia behavior? Especially looks like him being a GF and protective towards Chez there... and yes, if it wasn't for Qatol, I would be more inclined to agree that Shikyo was GF and I was right from the start.. just like I was with Chez... so maybe what I should do next time, is evaluate behaviors and ignore the towns shenanigans and ignorance and not change my idea's. However, according to my plan, it doesn't matter if we kill L, and it in fact gives us more information.. with him showing red or GF !yay!.. if he shows blue, then we know Shikyo is probably legit, so we can go after Amber (if he turns red when I check him) motbob, and Pyrr. If Amber comes back blue, we got another confirmed person, and it would leave motbob or Pyrr as red (since I haven't checked motbob yet, and Pyrr is hidden from checks....) and sadly, anyone as GF. So basically, if Amber doesn't turn out red, and nor does L after lynch.. then we got two suspects: pyrr and motbob for the basic red, and anyone else can be GF. Did want to ask, but I think you covered it, GF can ask to show up as BG? | ||
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On November 07 2009 03:43 SugiuraMidori wrote: LOL L, ..... but good try to force your role onto me, go die already..... I told you.. now then.. why does the rest seem easy? | ||
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One of these is red:: Amber, motbob, and Pyrr.. Blue:: Shikyo and I are the last DT's Green:: Vivi and Tricode Shikyo-- check motbob, I'm checking Amber.. if neither of us return a red we can lynch Pyrr and be over and gg with it. Unless one of the three wants to gg it now? | ||
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8. Amber[Light] (BG 2/2) <-- Publicly known as BG now 9. Pyrrhuloxia <-- Sorry excuse for a mayer 11. Tricode <-- Was checked during a quick fit of rage 12. Vivi57 <-- Came back Green 14. Sugiuramidori (DT 2/3) <-- So going to die now, I hope Qatol gets to kill me, he knows what I wanted for my death 16. Shikyo (DT 3/3) <-- Came back DT 18. Motbob Bold == a RC was involved. | ||
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On November 08 2009 00:17 Amber[LighT] wrote: So we never figured out who the vigilante is? Or is there even one in this game? There isn't one ;P | ||
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8. Amber[Light] (BG 2/2) <-- BG 9. Pyrrhuloxia <-- Sorry excuse for a mayer 11. Tricode <-- Was checked during a quick fit of rage 12. Vivi57 <-- Came back Green 14. Sugiuramidori (DT 2/3) <-- So going to die now, I hope Qatol gets to kill me, he knows what I wanted for my death 16. Shikyo (DT 3/3) <-- Came back DT 18. Motbob <-- checked him with a lie in PM :D Bold == a RC was involved. Pyrr is our last mafia, gg everyone, fat lady is singing. | ||
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On November 08 2009 04:06 Qatol wrote: Oh yeah, easily best PM of the game. From: L [ Profile | Buddy ] Subject: Self Bombing: Date: 10/31/09 10:08 I kill sugi, who is most likely medic protected and has a bomb on me. Possibly the ballsiest move ever. Expected chance of victory: 0. Cute~ | ||
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Then he returned a VERY convincing answer about how if he was mafia he'd already have gg'd, as well as mentioning that my DT check claiming him red implied my sanity claim was wrong.. proof enough that he wasn't red... I passed it on to Tricode, and was going to have him just pass on the Amber was blue check to town upon my death.. but then at the last moment I realized it no longer mattered.. I can say gg to Pyrr and not have to actually die :D So yeh, despite my rage moment that one day, and going after L with a bit too much vehemency, this was a fun game overall. The moment with L was super intense, guess that's how he tries to defend himself when he's guilty? Interesting approach. | ||
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SugiuraMidori
United States281 Posts
On November 08 2009 05:24 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: oh and fun fact: Pyrr won his election without any mafia votes. I think that is a first. He also uber lynched Chez... | ||
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SugiuraMidori
United States281 Posts
On November 08 2009 06:03 Qatol wrote: Ver and I were also very impressed by this post: 3/4 mafia correct with the last one labeled as blue. Very impressive. Too bad you changed your mind on some of these reads. Oh yeh..I'm well aware, and hence my recent post that I will be using my own feelings more instead of relying on the town from now on.. and PM's.. other people just seem to distract me from my own well-done analytical power. I am very much in approval of a clue-less game.. the clues just distract me, and I have no idea how to manage them together... but behavioral (or grammatical as I call it) seems to be something I'm good at (though I can't do it for shit in person.....) | ||
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SugiuraMidori
United States281 Posts
On November 08 2009 08:37 Scamp wrote: Wow Pyrr was Mafia the whole time? I didn't see that coming. I did... lol | ||
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SugiuraMidori
United States281 Posts
On November 08 2009 14:48 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: Also, I told you bastards to hit SiguiraMidori early on. Awww, so harsh ;_; | ||
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SugiuraMidori
United States281 Posts
On November 08 2009 12:06 Ver wrote: If everyone can forward me any useful pm's it will aid greatly in forming up a strong overall analysis. Should be up within 2 days or so. What do you consider as a useful PM? | ||
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SugiuraMidori
United States281 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Ah. I was wondering about pyrr. Mostly cause he still has x2 voting power. It was actually worrying me =\ cause of some of the inactivity and abstains. So hopefully Pyrr knows he is caught and everyone votes for him quickly so if some how some go MIA at least 2 of us is needed to vote before him to beat his voting power. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: um basically if I came up red you guessed your DT status wrong. Or you are mafia, which would be pretty funny ====== um... if I were mafia... I would certainly gg ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Well I got your redness in check anyhow, and Tricode knows ;P Why not just gg it anyhow? L was your trump card... ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Shikyo is gone. He hasn't been on the site in a while. I dunno if that will affect who you check or not but I'm just saying. ========================================= ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Yeah. So what happened during your bluff to motbob? ----------------------------------------- Original Message: I sure hope he does, just to be 100% sure... ----------------------------------------- Original Message: It would be hilarious if Shikyo just decided to come back for a bit, saw my pms. Checked Motbob real quick and told me. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Amber has come back as Blue BG... I just accused motbob that he came back red in a pm so we'll see what he says to that... it can be the other check if Shikyo is vacant... So don't let him know I checked Amber and not him.. see if he panics and gives in, if not we lynch Pyrr ^_^ We have the cat in the bag, fat lady is singing, etc. As soon as night falls, paste this to town, if no gg happens from Pyrr/motbob. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: I honestly believe he is G/f especially with the crap he just posted about you. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Forgot an instance.. L is regular mafia and Shikyo is GF, will happen if Amber is blue and motbob is green/blue. Since I don't have the extra night to check L too, you'll have to get the town to look into this possibility, I don't know how to check for it really.. so GL ;P ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Motbob was the second to vote Chez to die btw. I don't think he is red. Though i guess there could be a possibility but i will put it in my doubts for now. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: So here is how it goes.. I will be checking Amber to see if just a blue BG or turns red. Shikyo shall hopefully check on motbob and tell you, if that doesn't happen... he has a good chance of being GF. Logic stuffs:: First bit assumes L isn't GF.. poor assumption but it must be made. [[ If Amber turns up red, than no matter what Shikyo says that motbob is, won't really matter too much since you'll all be looking for the GF anyhow. If Amber turns up blue, he's innocent.. Shikyo can turn motbob as red meaning two things: if after lynch he isn't, Shikyo was GF, else Shikyo is legit DT. -If on the last one, Shikyo is legit DT, than any of the Greens I have checked can be GF, including Pyrr. ]] Now assuming that L is GF, then either I will flip you a red from Amber or Shikyo will flip one for motbob or if neither of us give you a red, then Pyrr is the final mafia. Paste this in full to town after I die and town should have >60% chance at win. Also found an old PM from Tricode mentioning that we need to keep an eye on Pyrr. The reasons for being so suspicious for Shikyo near the end, he made a big deal earlier on about Chez, Pyrr, and L being innocent xD | ||
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SugiuraMidori
United States281 Posts
On November 08 2009 15:15 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: Sorry, but I knew you were too dangerous when you had nailed 3/4 of the team on your list. I figured you to be a vig though. Knew you were blue, just not what blue. But wouldn't that have been even more suspicious? They'd have seen me as DT and known my list was accurate and threatening to mafia, and then lynched all my red's. | ||
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