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JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
October 12 2014 12:30 GMT
#1261
"Cool turning his lane to Creamed Corn"
LOL
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
October 12 2014 12:32 GMT
#1262
On October 12 2014 21:30 asymptotech wrote:
While these games serve as extreme examples of 'not good' play, I would love to know the actual reasoning for so many Zilean bans. The premise that the ult makes a fight 6v5 assumes that Zilean is actually worth a champ with his other 3 abilities...and that's a really hard argument to get behind. As a support you have piddling damage and very soft cc and/or engage support; as a mid-laner you have so-so damage instead. Outside functioning as a legitimately scary 5th skill for Twitch or Rengar, Zilean seems like Ashe of the midlane. Unless your stars align, it's very hard to argue that the sacrifice in power is balanced by gains in utility. Even if Corn was to play a stronger version of that champ, what exactly is he going to accomplish on that teamcomp? It seems like nothing more than a win-more situation, and such a strange pick, let alone first pick.


Because Faker played it
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TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
October 12 2014 12:34 GMT
#1263
On October 12 2014 21:30 asymptotech wrote:
While these games serve as extreme examples of 'not good' play, I would love to know the actual reasoning for so many Zilean bans. The premise that the ult makes a fight 6v5 assumes that Zilean is actually worth a champ with his other 3 abilities...and that's a really hard argument to get behind. As a support you have piddling damage and very soft cc and/or engage support; as a mid-laner you have so-so damage instead. Outside functioning as a legitimately scary 5th skill for Twitch or Rengar, Zilean seems like Ashe of the midlane. Unless your stars align, it's very hard to argue that the sacrifice in power is balanced by gains in utility. Even if Corn was to play a stronger version of that champ, what exactly is he going to accomplish on that teamcomp? It seems like nothing more than a win-more situation, and such a strange pick, let alone first pick.


Zilean in the hand of a capable midlaner and a team with something like teamwork just kills you. Give Cool and OMG Zilean and RC would get wrecked all over the place. Zilean is extremely strong, but Corn just sucks.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
October 12 2014 12:34 GMT
#1264
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ShootAnonymous
Profile Joined May 2014
1948 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-12 12:36:40
October 12 2014 12:36 GMT
#1265
They picked Janna over both Lucian and Thresh.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOUR BP, OMG.
orz
RIP DotA Kings | BurNIng : Mushi : iceiceice : LaNm : MMY!
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
October 12 2014 12:36 GMT
#1266
BRING OUT THE SHACO
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RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
October 12 2014 12:36 GMT
#1267
when they locked ryze I was pretty sure omg would take lucian khazix, surprised they go for janna khazix :o
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
October 12 2014 12:37 GMT
#1268
I admire Royals balls
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
October 12 2014 12:37 GMT
#1269
MANMODE ENGAGED
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
October 12 2014 12:37 GMT
#1270
Fiddle into Janna sounds like a bad idea
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
October 12 2014 12:37 GMT
#1271
TIME FOR MANTHEON
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 12 2014 12:37 GMT
#1272
RETURN OF MANTHEON
Glorious SEA doto
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
October 12 2014 12:37 GMT
#1273
the mantheon
whole lies with a half smile
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3632 Posts
October 12 2014 12:37 GMT
#1274
o damnnnn son
?
JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-12 12:38:09
October 12 2014 12:37 GMT
#1275
MANTHEON

EXPECT THE MAN DROPS
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
October 12 2014 12:37 GMT
#1276
siiiick
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
ShootAnonymous
Profile Joined May 2014
1948 Posts
October 12 2014 12:38 GMT
#1277
SHRC has so so so so many CCs.
Scared for OMG >.<
RIP DotA Kings | BurNIng : Mushi : iceiceice : LaNm : MMY!
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
October 12 2014 12:38 GMT
#1278
SHRC should have this if they can get normal lanes
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
October 12 2014 12:38 GMT
#1279
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justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
October 12 2014 12:38 GMT
#1280
YOLO PANTHEON INC
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