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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-08 20:54:50
September 08 2014 20:54 GMT
#181
OMG's best way to beat fnatic is just force standards lanes, have lovelin camp mid and keep san/dada on some easy as fuck lane like lucian/braum or koggles/thresh. Then they can sit back and watch the cool/gogoing show.
AHQ's best shot at a miracle is lucian/malphite going 30-0 because glorious greentea (I do hope greentea plays his support malph at least once at worlds)
Glorious SEA doto
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35150 Posts
September 08 2014 20:55 GMT
#182
On September 09 2014 05:44 ketchup wrote:
I don't understand the Fnatic predictions in group C. xPeke is by far Fnatic's weakest link, while the rest of the mid laners in that group are known for doing REALLY well in that lane.

You think xPeke is worse than Cyanide?
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-08 21:00:42
September 08 2014 20:56 GMT
#183
On September 09 2014 05:50 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2014 05:46 ketchup wrote:
On September 09 2014 05:46 Fusilero wrote:
Fnatic will be fine as long as they remember that dada is a free as fuck kill every 3 minutes.


Except Cool is able to carry 1v9 yo(and sometimes San helps so 2v8).

Both of them proved that in the Chinese Qualifiers over the weekend.


You can't 1v9 against those Fnatic PROTECT REKKLES comps.
Yes, caps lock was obligated because it's double crucible with shields/heals.

If Fnatic can get OMG and LMQ in their swamp, actually, i can see them advancing.
At least, i want TSM and Fnatic to advance just because they're facing Korean teams and fanboys will be hyped that their teams are for sure going to win at least against NJWS.


That's exactly the point. I believe xpeke cannot handle cool, dade, and even xwx. The issue then turns to that Rekkles might be able to carry them, but you have Deft on Blue, and San on OMG, and even Vasili on LMQ. These guys are no walkover, and you can be sure they can keep up with him. So Fnatic's strongest laner is relatively good, but their mid laner is still a huge weakness. Even being optimistic, I cannot say that xpeke will solve his mid lane issues by the time worlds comes around.

On September 09 2014 05:55 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2014 05:44 ketchup wrote:
I don't understand the Fnatic predictions in group C. xPeke is by far Fnatic's weakest link, while the rest of the mid laners in that group are known for doing REALLY well in that lane.

You think xPeke is worse than Cyanide?


Yes
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
September 08 2014 20:56 GMT
#184
Group A: SSW/EDG
Group B: Starhorn/SK or TPA
Group C: SSB/OMG
Group D: NJWS/ALL

SSW vs SK or TPA: SSW
SSB vs ALL: SSB

EDG vs Starhorn: EDG
OMG vs NJWS: NJWS

SSW vs SSB: SSW
EDG vs NJWS: EDG

SSW vs EDG: SSW


-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
September 08 2014 20:56 GMT
#185
Dunno about Group D. Wickd is still a rather weak and easily bannable player imo. Whereas Balls and Save are two players with strong presence when doing well, especially Save, this could be very bad for Alliance. Haven't watched much of EU lastely though, I could be wrong. Najin still looks very stable.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
September 08 2014 20:57 GMT
#186
On September 09 2014 05:56 -Zoda- wrote:
Dunno about Group D. Wickd is still a rather weak and easily bannable player imo. Whereas Balls and Save are two players with strong presence when doing well, especially Save, this could be very bad for Alliance. Haven't watched much of EU lastely though, I could be wrong. Najin still looks very stable.


Balls hasn't been playing like he was in the Spring split. I miss the good ol' Balls rumble days. maybe he will bring it back for worlds.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
September 08 2014 20:58 GMT
#187
On September 09 2014 05:56 -Zoda- wrote:
Dunno about Group D. Wickd is still a rather weak and easily bannable player imo. Whereas Balls and Save are two players with strong presence when doing well, especially Save, this could be very bad for Alliance. Haven't watched much of EU lastely though, I could be wrong. Najin still looks very stable.


Ye, we saw Balls at Allstars already.
I will get even Wickd on Swain over it.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
September 08 2014 21:00 GMT
#188
On September 09 2014 05:57 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2014 05:56 -Zoda- wrote:
Dunno about Group D. Wickd is still a rather weak and easily bannable player imo. Whereas Balls and Save are two players with strong presence when doing well, especially Save, this could be very bad for Alliance. Haven't watched much of EU lastely though, I could be wrong. Najin still looks very stable.


Balls hasn't been playing like he was in the Spring split. I miss the good ol' Balls rumble days. maybe he will bring it back for worlds.


Balls has been in a slump, but I think it's more attributed to the style C9 have adopted rather than him performing poorly.

Hopefully the bootcamp helps them make some changes and helps Balls get back on top. Dude is a monster when he gets his fair share of farm.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35150 Posts
September 08 2014 21:00 GMT
#189
On September 09 2014 05:56 -Zoda- wrote:
Dunno about Group D. Wickd is still a rather weak and easily bannable player imo. Whereas Balls and Save are two players with strong presence when doing well, especially Save, this could be very bad for Alliance. Haven't watched much of EU lastely though, I could be wrong. Najin still looks very stable.

C9 v [A] will all come down to how Hai and Froggen perform.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-08 21:01:35
September 08 2014 21:01 GMT
#190
Balls might body wickd but he'll have to outcarry froggen vs hai. I don't see that happening especially because I don't think sneakynation can beat tabzz/nyph.
Glorious SEA doto
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
September 08 2014 21:05 GMT
#191
Well I for one kinda believe in Sneakynation, strongly believe in Meteos outdoing shook and the power of rotations. Balls vs wickd is whatever i hate both.

On September 09 2014 05:52 BrownBear wrote:
Unfortunately, I'd put both DP and ahq around high-CS/low-LCS caliber in terms of actual skill, so unless they go full Season 2 TPA, it would most likely happen due to a massive throw.

There was a screenshot today on reddit of two ranked 5s post-game lobbies were G2 won against DP and wished them gl at Worlds. So you might be even overrating them.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
September 08 2014 21:05 GMT
#192
On September 09 2014 06:01 Fusilero wrote:
Balls might body wickd but he'll have to outcarry froggen vs hai. I don't see that happening especially because I don't think sneakynation can beat tabzz/nyph.


And that's the biggest issue. C9 have the advantage at top and jungle IMO, but ALL have Froggen, who is going to absolutely annihilate Hai mid.

If Lemon can get a comfort champ like Morgana I think that Sneakynation might be able to at least go even against Tabzz/Nyph, but I doubt they'll win lane without serious misplays by Alliance.

It's actually a super interesting matchup, the more I think about it. Gonna be a great 2 games between those two.
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-08 21:09:09
September 08 2014 21:07 GMT
#193
On September 09 2014 06:05 BrownBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2014 06:01 Fusilero wrote:
Balls might body wickd but he'll have to outcarry froggen vs hai. I don't see that happening especially because I don't think sneakynation can beat tabzz/nyph.


And that's the biggest issue. C9 have the advantage at top and jungle IMO, but ALL have Froggen, who is going to absolutely annihilate Hai mid.

If Lemon can get a comfort champ like Morgana I think that Sneakynation might be able to at least go even against Tabzz/Nyph, but I doubt they'll win lane without serious misplays by Alliance.

It's actually a super interesting matchup, the more I think about it. Gonna be a great 2 games between those two.


Meteos almost never ganks mid, Shook camps Froggen.
I can see Hai tilting after first 5 minutes with those random ignites mid and with banned Zed.
Tabzz and Nyph are way stronger botlane than any botlane in NA currently, so Sneaky might not transition that well and Wickd will just farm anyway, if nothing weird happens, with Meteos camping Balls and [A] getting dragons.

Gosh, i won't be surprised if [A] even give him Zed to play, just to laugh.

Still, we need schedules of groups actually, it means a lot.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-08 21:14:55
September 08 2014 21:13 GMT
#194
On September 09 2014 06:07 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2014 06:05 BrownBear wrote:
On September 09 2014 06:01 Fusilero wrote:
Balls might body wickd but he'll have to outcarry froggen vs hai. I don't see that happening especially because I don't think sneakynation can beat tabzz/nyph.


And that's the biggest issue. C9 have the advantage at top and jungle IMO, but ALL have Froggen, who is going to absolutely annihilate Hai mid.

If Lemon can get a comfort champ like Morgana I think that Sneakynation might be able to at least go even against Tabzz/Nyph, but I doubt they'll win lane without serious misplays by Alliance.

It's actually a super interesting matchup, the more I think about it. Gonna be a great 2 games between those two.


Meteos almost never ganks mid, Shook camps Froggen.
I can see Hai tilting after first 5 minutes with those random ignites mid and with banned Zed.
Tabzz and Nyph are way stronger botlane than any botlane in NA currently, so Sneaky might not transition that well and Wickd will just farm anyway, if nothing weird happens, with Meteos camping Balls and [A] getting dragons.

Gosh, i won't be surprised if [A] even give him Zed to play, just to laugh.

Still, we need schedules of groups actually, it means a lot.


Yea, plus from what I've seen historically, C9 does well when Hai does well, and their struggles come when he struggles.

That said, C9 does have collectively a very high LoL IQ, and they're probably aware of what you said, so it will be interesting to see if they prepare any specific playstyle changes or counters.
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iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
September 08 2014 21:16 GMT
#195
A: EDG, SSWhite EDG will surprise White in this group
B: Royal, SK Won't underestimate SK here, will be between SK and TSM for 2nd seed.
C: SSBlue, OMG OMG vs Fnatic will decide 2nd seed, OMG will edge out.
D: ALL, Shield Alliance will surprise in this group, Shield will still cruise out in 2nd.

EDG > SK
Royal < SSWhite

SSBlue > Shield
ALL > OMG

EDG < SSWhite
SSBlue > ALL

SSBlue < SSWhite I BELIEVE!!! (i also hope i go the format correct)

<3 Kim Taeyeon
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35150 Posts
September 08 2014 21:23 GMT
#196
On September 09 2014 06:16 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
A: EDG, SSWhite EDG will surprise White in this group
B: Royal, SK Won't underestimate SK here, will be between SK and TSM for 2nd seed.
C: SSBlue, OMG OMG vs Fnatic will decide 2nd seed, OMG will edge out.
D: ALL, Shield Alliance will surprise in this group, Shield will still cruise out in 2nd.

EDG > SK
Royal < SSWhite

SSBlue > Shield
ALL > OMG

EDG < SSWhite
SSBlue > ALL

SSBlue < SSWhite I BELIEVE!!! (i also hope i go the format correct)


Samsung teamkill will take place in the semifinals.
TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
September 08 2014 21:32 GMT
#197
Great now I have to wake up at 8 am to watch worlds. Looks like lol gives me a normal sleep schedule.
Science>Mechanics
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
September 08 2014 21:40 GMT
#198
On September 09 2014 06:23 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2014 06:16 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
A: EDG, SSWhite EDG will surprise White in this group
B: Royal, SK Won't underestimate SK here, will be between SK and TSM for 2nd seed.
C: SSBlue, OMG OMG vs Fnatic will decide 2nd seed, OMG will edge out.
D: ALL, Shield Alliance will surprise in this group, Shield will still cruise out in 2nd.

EDG > SK
Royal < SSWhite

SSBlue > Shield
ALL > OMG

EDG < SSWhite
SSBlue > ALL

SSBlue < SSWhite I BELIEVE!!! (i also hope i go the format correct)


Samsung teamkill will take place in the semifinals.

Only if Blue and White finish at the same place in group, which differs from iKill's prediction.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
September 08 2014 22:19 GMT
#199


Hihi Riot released their group draw video. As ghetto as it gets, I love when they keep drawing despite the fact all but 1 group are filled.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 08 2014 22:23 GMT
#200
it's not meant to be flashy or even watched, it's simply meant as evidence
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