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On August 24 2014 07:15 LaNague wrote:
dota 2 buildings have armor when no creeps around, no idea about throne.
I believe the extra armour extends to the throne as well.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Buildings
Under Backdoor Protection "All buildings except for Tier 1 towers and the Fountain have backdoor protection"
Throne/Ancient is listed as a building on the same page
EDIT: As a poster above said, it's not amour but dmg resistance + regen
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On August 24 2014 07:15 LaNague wrote:
dota 2 buildings have armor when no creeps around, no idea about throne.
LoL buildings too, they have something like +200 armour if there are no minions around. Inhibs and the nexus don't though, but backdooring isn't nearly as potent in LoL because a bunch of champions won't build AD nor AS (I think relatively speaking, even hard supports in DotA end up doing similar right-click damage because DotA has lower HP pools in general) and even though the map is tinier, there are no TP scrolls/Boots of Travel late game, only recall.
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On August 24 2014 07:17 Ryuu314 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 07:15 LaNague wrote:
dota 2 buildings have armor when no creeps around, no idea about throne. technically, it's not armor. Dota 2 buildings have a base amount of armor, but in the absence of creep, they get backdoor protection when attacked, which is a flat % reduction of all damage plus 90 hp/sec regeneration (it won't heal past the amount of hp it had when it started being attacked with backdoor protection). I'm also pretty sure Ancients (Nexus) don't have backdoor protection in Dota 2.
I thought that(no backdoor protection) was only in DotA1? I vaguely recall seeing a parity post somewhere, sometime ago >>
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On August 24 2014 07:21 ShootAnonymous wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 07:17 Ryuu314 wrote:On August 24 2014 07:15 LaNague wrote:
dota 2 buildings have armor when no creeps around, no idea about throne. technically, it's not armor. Dota 2 buildings have a base amount of armor, but in the absence of creep, they get backdoor protection when attacked, which is a flat % reduction of all damage plus 90 hp/sec regeneration (it won't heal past the amount of hp it had when it started being attacked with backdoor protection). I'm also pretty sure Ancients (Nexus) don't have backdoor protection in Dota 2. I thought that(no backdoor protection) was only in DotA1? I vaguely recall seeing a parity post somewhere, sometime ago >>
Backdoor protection was introduced in DotA 2 already, in 2012 or something like that.
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On August 24 2014 07:20 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 07:15 LaNague wrote:
dota 2 buildings have armor when no creeps around, no idea about throne. LoL buildings too, they have something like +200 armour if there are no minions around. Inhibs and the nexus don't though, but backdooring isn't nearly as potent in LoL because a bunch of champions won't build AD nor AS (I think relatively speaking, even hard supports in DotA end up doing similar right-click damage because DotA has lower HP pools in general) and even though the map is tinier, there are no TP scrolls/Boots of Travel late game, only recall.
well yes, the towers, but inhibs are the important ones iin this case.
They killed the real backdooring where you 1v1 a turret without minions some time ago with the bonus protection and increasing tower damage.
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On August 24 2014 07:21 ShootAnonymous wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 07:17 Ryuu314 wrote:On August 24 2014 07:15 LaNague wrote:
dota 2 buildings have armor when no creeps around, no idea about throne. technically, it's not armor. Dota 2 buildings have a base amount of armor, but in the absence of creep, they get backdoor protection when attacked, which is a flat % reduction of all damage plus 90 hp/sec regeneration (it won't heal past the amount of hp it had when it started being attacked with backdoor protection). I'm also pretty sure Ancients (Nexus) don't have backdoor protection in Dota 2. I thought that(no backdoor protection) was only in DotA1? I vaguely recall seeing a parity post somewhere, sometime ago >>
Well, the wiki entry doesn't list the Ancients as having backdoor protection, while it specifically states that the T2~4 towers, rax, and miscellaneous buildings in the base all have backdoor protection. I'm guessing it's not an oversight plus I don't really recall Ancients having backdoor protection when I played, but I could be wrong.
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On August 24 2014 07:21 ShootAnonymous wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 07:17 Ryuu314 wrote:On August 24 2014 07:15 LaNague wrote:
dota 2 buildings have armor when no creeps around, no idea about throne. technically, it's not armor. Dota 2 buildings have a base amount of armor, but in the absence of creep, they get backdoor protection when attacked, which is a flat % reduction of all damage plus 90 hp/sec regeneration (it won't heal past the amount of hp it had when it started being attacked with backdoor protection). I'm also pretty sure Ancients (Nexus) don't have backdoor protection in Dota 2. I thought that(no backdoor protection) was only in DotA1? I vaguely recall seeing a parity post somewhere, sometime ago >>
Yea that's the thing when I searched it I found a bug thread on dev forums saying they should have no backdoor protection but then in changelog it says fixed Ancients backdoor protection. Guess i'll have to go check ingame myself
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Why do you even argue about dota? It doesn't matter if dota has it or not, the more interesting question is do you think a nexus should have some sort of it?
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Dig got strong solo laners and it made them much better. If they now could pick up a decent bot lane, they could be a real top team. I mean Kiwi getting caught out so often is not compensated by anything he does.
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On August 24 2014 07:25 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Why do you even argue about dota? It doesn't matter if dota has it or not, the more interesting question is do you think a nexus should have some sort of it?
no
Inhibitors are bd protection. And they even respawn.
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First pick Nunu... God bless NA
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On August 24 2014 07:25 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Why do you even argue about dota? It doesn't matter if dota has it or not, the more interesting question is do you think a nexus should have some sort of it?
I don't think.
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On August 24 2014 07:25 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Why do you even argue about dota? It doesn't matter if dota has it or not, the more interesting question is do you think a nexus should have some sort of it?
I just couldn't remember.
Don't think LoL needs bd protection. You already got respawning inhibs with people like Ziggs in the game. It was more a problem of Dig trying to go all in instead of just playing passively until their inhib respawned.
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On August 24 2014 07:25 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Why do you even argue about dota? It doesn't matter if dota has it or not, the more interesting question is do you think a nexus should have some sort of it?
i think inhibs should have it and the nexus should have some depending on inhibs.
If all inhibs down, then you deserve whats coming.
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NA LCS Summer Season Playoffs Ro6 (Quarterfinals), bo5, TSM-Dignitas, Game 3.
Can Dyrus stop choking and can Imaqtpie play as good as in previous two games? Is it time for Riven, ZionSpartan?
Team SoloMid - Team Dignitas
Bans:
Nidalee, Ziggs, Ryze.
Zed, Lee Sin, Alistar.
Picks:
Nunu, Nami, Lulu, Tristana, Orianna.
Maokai, Kha'Zix, Braum, Lucian, Ahri.
On August 24 2014 07:25 TeeTS wrote:
Dig got strong solo laners and it made them much better. If they now could pick up a decent bot lane, they could be a real top team. I mean Kiwi getting caught out so often is not compensated by anything he does.
Qtpie is playing hilariously legit tonight, KiWiKiD is basically dying for his team sins.
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Finally Ahri. Was wondering where she went after she dominated so hard in EU.
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On August 24 2014 07:30 Redox wrote:
Finally Ahri. Was wondering where she went after she dominated so hard in EU.
Well doesn't Syndra dump on her hard?
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NA got very few Ahri players the only I know for sure is Shiptur.
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On August 24 2014 07:31 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 07:30 Redox wrote:
Finally Ahri. Was wondering where she went after she dominated so hard in EU. Well doesn't Syndra dump on her hard?
No idea.
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