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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
July 04 2014 13:53 GMT
#141
Time for one of Ambition or Flame to go. Prefer Ambition, but Blaze is going nowhere with these two.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 04 2014 13:57 GMT
#142
On July 04 2014 22:53 justiceknight wrote:
flame as useless as ever, his tp at the dragon fight is a complete joke and cant do anything this game.

How many more times does flame have to be useless with "muh carry" before people recognise that looper and acorn are better than him.
Glorious SEA doto
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
July 04 2014 14:16 GMT
#143
On July 04 2014 22:57 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2014 22:53 justiceknight wrote:
flame as useless as ever, his tp at the dragon fight is a complete joke and cant do anything this game.

How many more times does flame have to be useless with "muh carry" before people recognise that looper and acorn are better than him.


Exactly. People are quick to realize that Ambition has been taken over by better midlaners, but some are surprisingly slow to take in the fact that the same could be said for Flame for his position, whether it is the team-centric style of Looper, or the more carry-centric Save.

To be honest, it's never a quick-fix by the time regular folks like us realize something is horribily wrong with the team. Flame doesn't even deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as the Samsung top-laners in the current meta-game with his god-awful teleport usage. DayDream is outclassed again and again whenever he faces top junglers like KaKAO. Ambition lost his mojo ever since he started valuing pussy over becoming the best. Every year I was so traumatized that Blaze never got to showcase their talents on the world's biggest stage, but this year, they literally have nothing to show for compared to some of the rising talents in the Korean scene. If it was a travesty that the best mid-laner of Season 2, and the best top-laner of Season 3 didn't get to represent Korea, there's not much to mourn over if CJ Entus Blaze once again fails to make it to Worlds.
TL+ Member
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-04 14:23:00
July 04 2014 14:22 GMT
#144
LOL AMBITION VALUING PUSSY OVER BECOMING THE BEST

the esports struggle is real. I'm not saying you're wrong I just found it a bit funny
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Steins;Gate
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1422 Posts
July 04 2014 19:17 GMT
#145
On July 04 2014 23:22 Nos- wrote:
LOL AMBITION VALUING PUSSY OVER BECOMING THE BEST

the esports struggle is real. I'm not saying you're wrong I just found it a bit funny


Wait, what?
" Perhaps it's impossible to wear an identity without becoming what you pretend to be. "
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
July 05 2014 01:13 GMT
#146
On July 05 2014 04:17 Steins;Gate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2014 23:22 Nos- wrote:
LOL AMBITION VALUING PUSSY OVER BECOMING THE BEST

the esports struggle is real. I'm not saying you're wrong I just found it a bit funny


Wait, what?

Usually this is the result when a player gets a girlfriend and then has a slump in play.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
July 05 2014 01:33 GMT
#147
On July 04 2014 22:57 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2014 22:53 justiceknight wrote:
flame as useless as ever, his tp at the dragon fight is a complete joke and cant do anything this game.

How many more times does flame have to be useless with "muh carry" before people recognise that looper and acorn are better than him.


Only Looper's advantage is his teleport usage but people are caught up already. His mechanics aren't something impeccable.

Acorn and Impact are two best, then there is a gap, if Save doesn't play Shyvana and Save, Flame, Shy, ssumday, Expession, Looper, Limit, Leopard and crew are there.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
July 05 2014 01:38 GMT
#148
Anyone good with maths know if SSB is guarantee to advance regardless of today's results?

If they go 0-2 today vs IM#2, both of them advance regardless of the remaining match results?
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
July 05 2014 01:42 GMT
#149
On July 05 2014 10:13 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2014 04:17 Steins;Gate wrote:
On July 04 2014 23:22 Nos- wrote:
LOL AMBITION VALUING PUSSY OVER BECOMING THE BEST

the esports struggle is real. I'm not saying you're wrong I just found it a bit funny


Wait, what?

Usually this is the result when a player gets a girlfriend and then has a slump in play.


Yup. To showcase another example, PraY used to be by far the best player in his position in Korea, but by the end of his career he became a liability. I don't think it applies solely to Korean players either, there's just a certain level of dedication you need to maintain if you want to be the best, and a lot of guys can't do that with a girlfriend around.
TL+ Member
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
July 05 2014 01:47 GMT
#150
On July 05 2014 10:38 Kavas wrote:
Anyone good with maths know if SSB is guarantee to advance regardless of today's results?

If they go 0-2 today vs IM#2, both of them advance regardless of the remaining match results?


If they lose 0-2 and K win 2-0 against IM #1, then three-way-tiebreakers.

Uh, Falcons vs KT B tonight, going to be absolute mess, i bet.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
July 05 2014 01:57 GMT
#151
On July 05 2014 10:33 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2014 22:57 Fusilero wrote:
On July 04 2014 22:53 justiceknight wrote:
flame as useless as ever, his tp at the dragon fight is a complete joke and cant do anything this game.

How many more times does flame have to be useless with "muh carry" before people recognise that looper and acorn are better than him.


Only Looper's advantage is his teleport usage but people are caught up already. His mechanics aren't something impeccable.

Acorn and Impact are two best, then there is a gap, if Save doesn't play Shyvana and Save, Flame, Shy, ssumday, Expession, Looper, Limit, Leopard and crew are there.


Impact? In what universe is he the best?
TL+ Member
Anakko
Profile Joined August 2012
France1934 Posts
July 05 2014 02:41 GMT
#152
On July 05 2014 10:33 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2014 22:57 Fusilero wrote:
On July 04 2014 22:53 justiceknight wrote:
flame as useless as ever, his tp at the dragon fight is a complete joke and cant do anything this game.

How many more times does flame have to be useless with "muh carry" before people recognise that looper and acorn are better than him.


Only Looper's advantage is his teleport usage but people are caught up already. His mechanics aren't something impeccable.

Acorn and Impact are two best, then there is a gap, if Save doesn't play Shyvana and Save, Flame, Shy, ssumday, Expession, Looper, Limit, Leopard and crew are there.



I've been really impressed by Trace (Jin Air Stealths) lately, he's been an absolute beast and I'd be curious to see how well he'd do in a top team...
Or maybe the stealths will become one :p
TrAce/Cpt Jack for president (or both)
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-05 10:05:06
July 05 2014 10:04 GMT
#153
I'd also agree it's Acorn > Looper > Save/Shy/Ssumsday/Flame/Impact/Marin?/Trace? > whatever. I never understood why people give so little credit to Looper, maybe he wouldn't do too well in 1v1 against some of the lower tier players, but I always thought his 1v2 and teamfighting are ridiculously good.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
July 05 2014 11:23 GMT
#154
so who won, blue i guess?
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
TyrantPotato
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1541 Posts
July 05 2014 11:38 GMT
#155
On July 05 2014 20:23 The_Red_Viper wrote:
so who won, blue i guess?


1 hour pause yo.........restarting game 1. WOOOOOOOO
Forever ZeNEX.
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-05 12:18:12
July 05 2014 12:17 GMT
#156
IM#2 came to play

Dade and Deft look fcking pissed haha
TyrantPotato
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1541 Posts
July 05 2014 12:18 GMT
#157
On July 05 2014 21:17 bokchoi wrote:
IM#2 came to play


They played quite well.

Situation is odd though, forcing them to replay with same teams basically is like being forced to show your hand, The early game 3 buff start strat from Blue wasted before the restart
Forever ZeNEX.
UnKooL
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1667 Posts
July 05 2014 12:22 GMT
#158
My mind is blown. What happened in the beginning? They had a long pause for what?
LoL: UnKooL and SoloQFiendUnKooL, SC2: UnKooL
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
July 05 2014 12:51 GMT
#159
I think Chalice->Nomicon might've been better than Athene for dade
Liquipedia"Expert"
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
July 05 2014 12:53 GMT
#160
On July 05 2014 21:51 Inflicted wrote:
I think Chalice->Nomicon might've been better than Athene for dade


Chalice doesn't build into Nomicon ?

Also Syndra's single target burst is too much he needs to get MR where he can
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