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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
June 08 2014 23:17 GMT
#1221
On June 09 2014 08:12 Slusher wrote:
to be fair aphro was still adc, a role in which he was a historical choker on LAN

He was support on his tryout for curse.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
June 08 2014 23:18 GMT
#1222
On June 09 2014 08:17 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2014 08:12 Slusher wrote:
to be fair aphro was still adc, a role in which he was a historical choker on LAN

He was support on his tryout for curse.

Having actually played AD Carry before is probably a massive plus for Aphro imo.
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-08 23:19:14
June 08 2014 23:18 GMT
#1223
On June 09 2014 08:15 orzeu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2014 08:08 Ryuu314 wrote:
Voyboy is like the saddest story in all of League competitive history. He went from being one of the best top laners in the world to being one of the shittiest professional mid laners in the world. Voyboy is the poster child for bad position swaps.

He never was one of the best top laner in the world. He had one really good tournament, when he abuse op lee sin and after that was shit. In CLG he was feeding every game and was 1700 elo in Korea.

When he was playing top lane for Rock Solid/Dignitas he was one of the best in the world. During that time, Korea was nonexistent/nowhere near as dominant as they are now and NA was arguably the strongest region (with M5 ahead of everyone). His descent into mediocrity started when he got swapped over to CLG.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
June 08 2014 23:20 GMT
#1224
On June 09 2014 08:18 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2014 08:17 Gahlo wrote:
On June 09 2014 08:12 Slusher wrote:
to be fair aphro was still adc, a role in which he was a historical choker on LAN

He was support on his tryout for curse.

Having actually played AD Carry before is probably a massive plus for Aphro imo.


oh I'm sure it is, I just feel it's disengenious to say that they could have had this aphro when they didn't even have him at support.

Gamepedia said:On October 13th, Aphromoo and Pobelter are released.
October 14th, Cop becomes the starter AD once again while Quas from Gold Gaming LA joins to become a new top laner as Voyboy would move to the solo mid lane position.
Carrilord has arrived.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-08 23:33:36
June 08 2014 23:31 GMT
#1225
On June 09 2014 08:15 orzeu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2014 08:08 Ryuu314 wrote:
Voyboy is like the saddest story in all of League competitive history. He went from being one of the best top laners in the world to being one of the shittiest professional mid laners in the world. Voyboy is the poster child for bad position swaps.

He never was one of the best top laner in the world. He had one really good tournament, when he abuse op lee sin and after that was shit. In CLG he was feeding every game and was 1700 elo in Korea.


Ironically enough, last CLG's championship was with Voyboy's subbing in mid for bigfatlpjiji.

So, in general.
8 games are left, 20 to go, time to powerrank.

1. Cloud 9.
Even with all struggles which C9 shows, they still have 5-3 with losses to coL and EG. Imagine them going 7-1? Nothing weird, right? Even though, they look completely lost sometimes and better to improve, especially with TSM and Dignitas next week.

2. Counter Logic Gaming.
CLG are back to the roots - weirdest team in the league and everytime they find a way. Even though CLG make best rotational plays in the league right now, they sometimes occassionally collapse and make slightly too risky plays, which lost them game against LMQ and last game against C9. But they have coL and EG to play next week, so it might be a good ride. Also, Seraph is still struggling, soon we will be able to make a something like that. http://whendidegthrowlast.com/

3. Dignitas.
Dignitas are looking very solid and if they had won yesterday against CLG, i would have said that Dignitas are clear top-1. But they were destroyed by solid moves by CLG and weren't able to counter it. Even though, it's clear that Dignitas are top-contenders this season.

4. LMQ.
LMQ are first right now, but they still might struggle a bit if they're not far ahead in mid game. Next week they're going against EG and Curse, so it might be easy ride for them to lead the league.

5. TSM.
Uh oh, TSM are just mediocre. Dyrus looks like he's lost, Bjergsen is lost in meta and i have no idea what will he do after Nidalee rework comes in, Amazing is permanently jetlagged, WT is slumping and Gleeb can't channel his inner Glarbu.
They're still better than bottom-3 though but they have to work and improve furiously if they want to get 4th Worlds for Dyrus.

6. EG.
Well, EG are good in game where they didn't lose early. LANESWAP EVERYTIME, I DON'T GIVE A FUCK IF YOU WANT STANDARD LANES.
Pobelter is slowly becoming really top-tier, Altec is adapting to LCS, InnoX is playing tanks and Helios is coming for the team. Can they hit playoffs or....? LMQ and CLG next week for those guys.

7. Curse.
Curse are still not 8th, i guess, but as i was saying month ago, coming into LCS split with Cop as your only carry is shit idea. Curse are 2-6 with Dignitas and LMQ next week and if they lose there, they're almost out from fighting for top-spots.

8. compLexity.

coL has probably best vision control from bottom-3 teams, coaching stuff make things real. If they're not far behind in early game, they can force everyone to give their all, else they're just getting stomped. Next week they're against CLG and TSM, oh boy.

On June 09 2014 08:18 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2014 08:15 orzeu wrote:
On June 09 2014 08:08 Ryuu314 wrote:
Voyboy is like the saddest story in all of League competitive history. He went from being one of the best top laners in the world to being one of the shittiest professional mid laners in the world. Voyboy is the poster child for bad position swaps.

He never was one of the best top laner in the world. He had one really good tournament, when he abuse op lee sin and after that was shit. In CLG he was feeding every game and was 1700 elo in Korea.

When he was playing top lane for Rock Solid/Dignitas he was one of the best in the world. During that time, Korea was nonexistent/nowhere near as dominant as they are now and NA was arguably the strongest region (with M5 ahead of everyone). His descent into mediocrity started when he got swapped over to CLG.


Voyboy was arguably the best toplaner in NA in Spring 2013.
Dyrus won Allstars voting just because fanboys attacked everything in last 2 days, like it happened in Korea with Shy over Maknoon :D
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cuppatea
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1401 Posts
June 08 2014 23:32 GMT
#1226
On June 09 2014 08:15 Swords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2014 08:12 Slusher wrote:
to be fair aphro was still adc, a role in which he was a historical choker on LAN


True, but he's clearly improved so much as a player in general. His first time in LCS as a support was pretty lackluster as well, and now he's considered the best support in NA. I think he could've probably risen to the challenge as an adc too.


Nah, the pro scene is full of support players who only moved to that position after failing to make the grade elsewhere.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
June 08 2014 23:36 GMT
#1227
On June 09 2014 08:04 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2014 08:01 Moralez wrote:
voyboy needs to get back to top, and put quas on mid or something.

Voy is mediocre mid

Voy and Dominate have been mediocre this split. idk Quas has been doing well and I'd hate to see him kicked off the team just to accommodate Voyboy

I still stand by my statement that IWD is one of the worst players still playing.
Like Elementz tier, never see him do anything. and I havent since mundo jungle was a thing
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
June 09 2014 00:01 GMT
#1228
I'm suprised people still think LMQ will finish out of top3. Persnally I can't imagine them not going to Worlds - my question is whether Dig will fall apart, CLG will choke in playoffs or will C9 continue to slump :^)
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-09 01:54:27
June 09 2014 01:43 GMT
#1229
On June 09 2014 08:31 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2014 08:15 orzeu wrote:
On June 09 2014 08:08 Ryuu314 wrote:
Voyboy is like the saddest story in all of League competitive history. He went from being one of the best top laners in the world to being one of the shittiest professional mid laners in the world. Voyboy is the poster child for bad position swaps.

He never was one of the best top laner in the world. He had one really good tournament, when he abuse op lee sin and after that was shit. In CLG he was feeding every game and was 1700 elo in Korea.


Ironically enough, last CLG's championship was with Voyboy's subbing in mid for bigfatlpjiji.

So, in general.
8 games are left, 20 to go, time to powerrank.

1. Cloud 9.
Even with all struggles which C9 shows, they still have 5-3 with losses to coL and EG. Imagine them going 7-1? Nothing weird, right? Even though, they look completely lost sometimes and better to improve, especially with TSM and Dignitas next week.

2. Counter Logic Gaming.
CLG are back to the roots - weirdest team in the league and everytime they find a way. Even though CLG make best rotational plays in the league right now, they sometimes occassionally collapse and make slightly too risky plays, which lost them game against LMQ and last game against C9. But they have coL and EG to play next week, so it might be a good ride. Also, Seraph is still struggling, soon we will be able to make a something like that. http://whendidegthrowlast.com/

3. Dignitas.
Dignitas are looking very solid and if they had won yesterday against CLG, i would have said that Dignitas are clear top-1. But they were destroyed by solid moves by CLG and weren't able to counter it. Even though, it's clear that Dignitas are top-contenders this season.

4. LMQ.
LMQ are first right now, but they still might struggle a bit if they're not far ahead in mid game. Next week they're going against EG and Curse, so it might be easy ride for them to lead the league.

5. TSM.
Uh oh, TSM are just mediocre. Dyrus looks like he's lost, Bjergsen is lost in meta and i have no idea what will he do after Nidalee rework comes in, Amazing is permanently jetlagged, WT is slumping and Gleeb can't channel his inner Glarbu.
They're still better than bottom-3 though but they have to work and improve furiously if they want to get 4th Worlds for Dyrus.

6. EG.
Well, EG are good in game where they didn't lose early. LANESWAP EVERYTIME, I DON'T GIVE A FUCK IF YOU WANT STANDARD LANES.
Pobelter is slowly becoming really top-tier, Altec is adapting to LCS, InnoX is playing tanks and Helios is coming for the team. Can they hit playoffs or....? LMQ and CLG next week for those guys.

7. Curse.
Curse are still not 8th, i guess, but as i was saying month ago, coming into LCS split with Cop as your only carry is shit idea. Curse are 2-6 with Dignitas and LMQ next week and if they lose there, they're almost out from fighting for top-spots.

8. compLexity.

coL has probably best vision control from bottom-3 teams, coaching stuff make things real. If they're not far behind in early game, they can force everyone to give their all, else they're just getting stomped. Next week they're against CLG and TSM, oh boy.

Instead of #s 1 through 8, I'd rank them a bit differently:

Tier 1:
C9, CLG, Dignitas, LMQ: These 4 teams are very close to each other and are clearly top dogs in NA LCS. Dignitas and LMQ having better scores owes mostly to both of them hitting the ground running on Week 1, but both C9 and CLG have improved noticeably over these past 3 weeks and are on their heels.

Tier 2:
TSM: TSM looking almost as good as C9 and CLG score-wise owes to their ability to efficiently harvest the bottom 3 teams for wins; they have yet to pick up a single win against the top 4 teams.

Tier 3:
EG, Curse, compLexity: For most of the split, these 3 teams have looked the weakest and more or less in parity with each other, although EG has shown some flashes of potential to break out onto Tier 2.
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Shiznick
Profile Joined December 2008
United States2200 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-09 02:19:26
June 09 2014 02:18 GMT
#1230
[QUOTE]On June 09 2014 08:31 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 09 2014 08:15 orzeu wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 09 2014 08:08 Ryuu314 wrote:
snip
Voyboy was arguably the best toplaner in NA in Spring 2013.
Dyrus won Allstars voting just because fanboys attacked everything in last 2 days, like it happened in Korea with Shy over Maknoon :D[/QUOTE]
I agree he was best top in NA in Spring 2013, but that was when the top talent pool in NA was more like a talent puddle. I doubt Voyboy could hang with Zion or Balls now.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 09 2014 04:15 GMT
#1231


dig fans are hilarious.
liftlift > tsm
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-09 05:58:09
June 09 2014 05:56 GMT
#1232
On June 08 2014 17:04 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2014 16:03 zer0das wrote:
Can we please stop pretending the CLG vs Dig game was some genius move on CLG's part? Dig had trash decision making, let's call a spade a spade.

I give credit where it's due. CLG teetered on a fine line with their poke comp. If they were ever caught out, dig would've steamrolled CLG in a team fight.

You can say that dig was the one that committed mistakes but CLG played their part near perfectly.


I don't think Zion dawdling in mid for like 5 minutes while CLG does whatever qualifies as "nearly perfect play" on CLG's part. Dig got hellishly greedy trying to repeatedly cancel the recalls. Getting a pick is not that hard if the other team is being greedy. Was the pick itself good? Sure, but come on.

Like if you showed me that section of the game, hid the names, and played the "LCS or solo que game" I'd probably say solo que. Because that was a pretty prototypical stupid thing that happens in solo que games.
TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
June 09 2014 12:34 GMT
#1233
TSM has a new coach. Not sure you guys have ever heard of him. His name is locodoco. He will either make the team better, worse or nothing changes at all.
Science>Mechanics
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
June 09 2014 13:02 GMT
#1234
On June 09 2014 21:34 TitusVI wrote:
TSM has a new coach. Not sure you guys have ever heard of him. His name is locodoco. He will either make the team better, worse or nothing changes at all.

He is coaching TSM since start of the split.
TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
June 09 2014 15:23 GMT
#1235
On June 09 2014 22:02 orzeu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2014 21:34 TitusVI wrote:
TSM has a new coach. Not sure you guys have ever heard of him. His name is locodoco. He will either make the team better, worse or nothing changes at all.

He is coaching TSM since start of the split.


thats incorrect.
Science>Mechanics
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 09 2014 16:51 GMT
#1236
On June 10 2014 00:23 TitusVI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2014 22:02 orzeu wrote:
On June 09 2014 21:34 TitusVI wrote:
TSM has a new coach. Not sure you guys have ever heard of him. His name is locodoco. He will either make the team better, worse or nothing changes at all.

He is coaching TSM since start of the split.


thats incorrect.

Unless he was helping another NA team. Loco did mention in SI that he was helping an undisclosed NA team along with Alliance earlier this split. Also he was hyping the shit out of TSM in SI.
liftlift > tsm
Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
June 09 2014 18:08 GMT
#1237
Credit where credit is due:
On May 30 2014 07:31 AsnSensation wrote:
Loco said in this very episode that he's been working with an NA and an EU team,

1. Doesn't talk to LMQ
2. C9 and CLG obviously not.
3. Dig has scarra and the other staff
4. He says he doesn't give a fuck about 6-9 (Curse, EG, CoL)
5. Regi said in his recent vlog that they picked up an analyst and from Loco's bias this episode it's obvious that he worked with TSM.

Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
June 10 2014 10:45 GMT
#1238
Loco helped Alliance in the first week, and after the first week he has been coaching TSM. Only he did it remotely so far and will now do it from the house.
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