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caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
June 08 2014 20:15 GMT
#1001
On June 09 2014 05:12 eGoRama wrote:
OK, just saw the last video, Link for real used his Gold Card on a minion, Regi is that you?

hai said in the interview that link tried to go for him but he flashed out and link basically clicked where hai used to be. although he should have waited and gone for sneaky in the first place.
bnet: caelym#1470 | Twitter: @caelym
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
June 08 2014 20:15 GMT
#1002
On June 09 2014 05:14 TitusVI wrote:
ok i think we can agree that until now seraph hasnt made anything better then nien.
I got the slow feeling that they took someone from korea who isnt that good.


We do know he has nerve issues. I hope he can adapt.
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Steins;Gate
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1422 Posts
June 08 2014 20:16 GMT
#1003
On June 09 2014 05:06 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2014 05:01 VayneAuthority wrote:
its kinda sad I knew CLG would lose just by their picks, thats not how this game should be. renek and tf for solos are just so weak for teamfights.

Wait, what? How are either of them worse than Nidalee in a team fight.
CLG's execution this game was just shitty, especially Link.

yea, TF was a good pick. Link just didn't play it right.
" Perhaps it's impossible to wear an identity without becoming what you pretend to be. "
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
June 08 2014 20:16 GMT
#1004
"Teams that are lower down in the standings" is such a euphemism lol
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
June 08 2014 20:16 GMT
#1005
Interesting how Hai admits that C9 is sucking right now.

It sucks to watch too
Also known as waterfall / w4terfall
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-08 20:17:06
June 08 2014 20:16 GMT
#1006
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Ok I'll spoiler it.
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Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
June 08 2014 20:16 GMT
#1007
On June 09 2014 05:13 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2014 05:11 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On June 09 2014 05:08 Owned Noob wrote:
clg got so fuckin greedy that game
im fine with them losing this one as long as they apply what they've learned to beat c9 in playoffs. theyre sooooo close but they shouldnt have won with the calls they made that game


C9 isn't main contender this season.
I will still rate CLG over them in the end of the season.
Need to see 2-3 weeks more, if C9 doesn't improve and come back to their level, it's really worrying for them.

I think C9 needs time to handle being weaker, they've pretty much been on the top without much dispute for so long even hai commented just now that they're struggling mentally with their current bad form.


Well basically since they came into the LCS their only competition has been maybe TSM, and they're what, 14-1 lifetime against TSM so far? CLG stepped it up mid to late spring split 2014, and with Dig and LMQ, there's no longer "free" wins in the LCS for them to prey upon. It's quickly becoming a "any given Sunday" type of scenario where some team will just go beast mode and stomp the competition. Like as things stand now, we can almost guarantee that the top 5 teams will be (in some sort of order) CLG, C9, TSM, LMQ, and Dig.
V0ren
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands233 Posts
June 08 2014 20:17 GMT
#1008
On June 09 2014 05:14 TitusVI wrote:
ok i think we can agree that until now seraph hasnt made anything better then nien.
I got the slow feeling that they took someone from korea who isnt that much better then any NA.


There isn't many alternatives though. There are very few good top laners that want to make the jump into NA.

I think the main reason Seraph is not performing as well as many had hoped is that CLG leaves him alone on the island that is top lane while other top laners get support from the jungler. Add to that his apparent nervousness, I don't think it is a good mix. Give it a few weeks and I think he will start to perform better though.
Maluk
Profile Joined August 2011
France987 Posts
June 08 2014 20:18 GMT
#1009
Someone should tell Doublelift that Lucian is not a tank.
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
June 08 2014 20:18 GMT
#1010
OK Ackerman, now's the time to feast on Westrice and go 10/0/27 and two pentas while LMQ loses. Do it for (fantasy) esports.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
June 08 2014 20:19 GMT
#1011
Unless something drastic happens it'll be like with most sports where who makes worlds will depend on which team gets it together in the playoffs.

Will CLG fully adapt to having Seraph?
Will C9 get their synergy back?
Will Dig learn to play out the lategame better with their new squad?

If a team gets hot in the playoffs pretty much anything can happen.
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
June 08 2014 20:19 GMT
#1012
On June 09 2014 05:14 TitusVI wrote:
ok i think we can agree that until now seraph hasnt made anything better then nien.
I got the slow feeling that they took someone from korea who isnt that good.

There is reason why no one pick him up in Korea after Shield.
It's funny how no one is allow to shit on Seraph while shitting on Gleb is okey.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
June 08 2014 20:19 GMT
#1013
And as for the whole "top lane is an island" thing, it has to do with how the game has been since... What, it going live? I can't think of any meta where top lane was a hotly contested lane to have a carry come from. Maybe in s3 Words with the trinity of Shen v Jax v Renekton, but that's it.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
June 08 2014 20:20 GMT
#1014
On June 09 2014 05:19 orzeu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2014 05:14 TitusVI wrote:
ok i think we can agree that until now seraph hasnt made anything better then nien.
I got the slow feeling that they took someone from korea who isnt that good.

There is reason why no one pick him up in Korea after Shield.
It's funny how no one is allow to shit on Seraph while shitting on Gleb is okey.

cuz he's korean. duh.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
June 08 2014 20:21 GMT
#1015
On June 09 2014 05:16 Kinie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2014 05:13 Fusilero wrote:
On June 09 2014 05:11 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On June 09 2014 05:08 Owned Noob wrote:
clg got so fuckin greedy that game
im fine with them losing this one as long as they apply what they've learned to beat c9 in playoffs. theyre sooooo close but they shouldnt have won with the calls they made that game


C9 isn't main contender this season.
I will still rate CLG over them in the end of the season.
Need to see 2-3 weeks more, if C9 doesn't improve and come back to their level, it's really worrying for them.

I think C9 needs time to handle being weaker, they've pretty much been on the top without much dispute for so long even hai commented just now that they're struggling mentally with their current bad form.


Well basically since they came into the LCS their only competition has been maybe TSM, and they're what, 14-1 lifetime against TSM so far? CLG stepped it up mid to late spring split 2014, and with Dig and LMQ, there's no longer "free" wins in the LCS for them to prey upon. It's quickly becoming a "any given Sunday" type of scenario where some team will just go beast mode and stomp the competition. Like as things stand now, we can almost guarantee that the top 5 teams will be (in some sort of order) CLG, C9, TSM, LMQ, and Dig.


CLG should be second already in Spring, noone was saying that TSM are going to be top-2 after roster swaps.
If meta doesn't shift hard, it will be C9-CLG-Dignitas-LMQ-TSM-EG-coL-Curse in regular ezpz.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 08 2014 20:21 GMT
#1016
On June 09 2014 05:12 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2014 05:06 NeoIllusions wrote:
On June 09 2014 05:01 VayneAuthority wrote:
its kinda sad I knew CLG would lose just by their picks, thats not how this game should be. renek and tf for solos are just so weak for teamfights.

Wait, what? How are either of them worse than Nidalee in a team fight.
CLG's execution this game was just shitty, especially Link.



just a heal on sneaky is more then those 2 bring to the teamfight combined since TF only is good for damage in kiting comps. When you are forced to engage TF actually does next to nothing with his garbage range. Hence why nidalee and twitch are great picks vs him.

I feel like that's a reflection of Seraph and Link for that game though (compared to Hai/Sneaky) and not so much about Renekton/TF. Seraph still has a lot of figuring out to do and Link is no Misaya.

CLG going so hard to Nid is just laughable. Sneaky says thanks.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 08 2014 20:21 GMT
#1017
On June 09 2014 05:16 MoonBear wrote:
"Teams that are lower down in the standings" is such a euphemism lol

Yeah, that's the level of PR that annoys the fk out of me.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
June 08 2014 20:22 GMT
#1018
On June 09 2014 05:18 Maluk wrote:
Someone should tell Doublelift that Lucian is not a tank.

It is just the passive that sucks for Dlift. It will make him use the dash to dps and not when it is actually useful. And while he uses the dash for DPS he just dashes into the enemy team.
Off-season = best season
eGoRama
Profile Joined July 2011
Bulgaria1542 Posts
June 08 2014 20:23 GMT
#1019
On June 09 2014 05:15 caelym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2014 05:12 eGoRama wrote:
OK, just saw the last video, Link for real used his Gold Card on a minion, Regi is that you?

hai said in the interview that link tried to go for him but he flashed out and link basically clicked where hai used to be. although he should have waited and gone for sneaky in the first place.


Alright, I muted the interview part but still I agree with you - Sneaky should have been the target
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35162 Posts
June 08 2014 20:23 GMT
#1020
On June 09 2014 05:16 triangle wrote:
Interesting how Hai admits that C9 is sucking right now.

It sucks to watch too

I bet he's still not "right" from his lung. While not the same things, I know that common ligament injuries in the knee take almost a year after "healthy" to feel right on. Wouldn't surprise me if this was the case.

Not to mention, the meta doesn't help Balls asserting his top lane dominance in the early game or Meteos to camp for him. It really hurts what C9s traditional strengths.
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