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On June 02 2014 08:42 Djin)ftw( wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2014 08:35 Sandster wrote:
Xpecial was vital because he was often the primary engage.
Watching TSM play without an engage is horrible. Who the hell gives up the 3rd inhib for absolutely free without at least attempting to fight? If you lose it, the game is over. Drawing out the game longer does not give you a higher % of winning.
Watching this Volibear though...hahaha.... Not only this. Their decision making is really terrible. Dunno. Currently I'd say regi should replace Bjergsen. He isnt as dominant anymore and the lack of shot calling is their biggest weakness
Regi's shotcalling won't change anything. It'll just be "Amazing camp mid, Dyrus do your thing top, botlane do your thing there, snowball and win". They need real analysts and coaches who haven't run the same strategy every season because their laners shit on everyone.
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On June 02 2014 08:33 Badboyrune wrote:
I don't understand how gleeb has this little impact on game with thresh. Thresh usually makes any support seem at least competent
Cuz he's bad?
He's also playing support like he's... a support, which is fine and all except TSM is very used to having Xpecial the support god that harass and initiate fights like he's immortal, which is why they were able to get away with having both dyrus and oddone playing champs with no hard initiates in the past. He also carried the shit out of turtle in the past as well.
Now they have no initiate and no WT baby sitter, but they played like they still do. So they get shit on.
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How the fuck did they give hai the mid op? Shiphtur had the harder matchups and performed way fucking better..
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Awww I was just about to say Aphromoo played exceptional well lately and they just named him the MVP! :D So happy for him!
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On June 02 2014 08:35 Sandster wrote:
Xpecial was vital because he was often the primary engage.
Watching TSM play without an engage is horrible. Who the hell gives up the 3rd inhib for absolutely free without at least attempting to fight? If you lose it, the game is over. Drawing out the game longer does not give you a higher % of winning.
Watching this Volibear though...hahaha....
The contrast with the earlier C9 game is so big
C9 loses there 2nd inhib from a missplay and they all in engage after it because they know they need to force something or they are 99% dead.
TSM sits there and lets it all happen.
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United States23745 Posts
On June 02 2014 08:44 MoonBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2014 08:42 Djin)ftw( wrote:On June 02 2014 08:35 Sandster wrote:
Xpecial was vital because he was often the primary engage.
Watching TSM play without an engage is horrible. Who the hell gives up the 3rd inhib for absolutely free without at least attempting to fight? If you lose it, the game is over. Drawing out the game longer does not give you a higher % of winning.
Watching this Volibear though...hahaha.... Not only this. Their decision making is really terrible. Dunno. Currently I'd say regi should replace Bjergsen. He isnt as dominant anymore and the lack of shot calling is their biggest weakness Replacing Bjergesen seems overkill, but you need your initiator on the team to have confidence and call the plays and I don't think Amazing and Gleeb can do that.
Well Amazing might have been doing better if he didn't give away all his Jungle picks in his AMA...
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On June 02 2014 08:45 wei2coolman wrote:
How the fuck did they give hai the mid op? Shiphtur had the harder matchups and performed way fucking better..
Collapsed lung bro.
Storylinez.
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dig looks pretty freaking amazing so far. Aside from the one loss to curse(?), they've been pretty damn solid.
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On June 02 2014 08:45 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2014 08:44 MoonBear wrote:On June 02 2014 08:42 Djin)ftw( wrote:On June 02 2014 08:35 Sandster wrote:
Xpecial was vital because he was often the primary engage.
Watching TSM play without an engage is horrible. Who the hell gives up the 3rd inhib for absolutely free without at least attempting to fight? If you lose it, the game is over. Drawing out the game longer does not give you a higher % of winning.
Watching this Volibear though...hahaha.... Not only this. Their decision making is really terrible. Dunno. Currently I'd say regi should replace Bjergsen. He isnt as dominant anymore and the lack of shot calling is their biggest weakness Replacing Bjergesen seems overkill, but you need your initiator on the team to have confidence and call the plays and I don't think Amazing and Gleeb can do that. Well Amazing might have been doing better if he didn't give away all his Jungle picks in his AMA...
iunno...he's getting what he wants almost every game (except that C9 game and this one lol) and he's still playing bad.
ATM he seems to be on TOO's level except TOO has more synergy with the rest of TSM. Honestly, TSM's roster changes have not panned out at all.
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On June 02 2014 08:45 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2014 08:44 MoonBear wrote:On June 02 2014 08:42 Djin)ftw( wrote:On June 02 2014 08:35 Sandster wrote:
Xpecial was vital because he was often the primary engage.
Watching TSM play without an engage is horrible. Who the hell gives up the 3rd inhib for absolutely free without at least attempting to fight? If you lose it, the game is over. Drawing out the game longer does not give you a higher % of winning.
Watching this Volibear though...hahaha.... Not only this. Their decision making is really terrible. Dunno. Currently I'd say regi should replace Bjergsen. He isnt as dominant anymore and the lack of shot calling is their biggest weakness Replacing Bjergesen seems overkill, but you need your initiator on the team to have confidence and call the plays and I don't think Amazing and Gleeb can do that. Well Amazing might have been doing better if he didn't give away all his Jungle picks in his AMA...
Yup, and there's no need to ban anything from Gleeb, so you just remove Amazing from the game. Bjergsen getting his mojo back would help a lot, and learning to use strategy to win games would help mask their deficiencies.
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Seriously just compare Aphromoo to Gleeb. The difference in mechanics and decision making is just ridiculous.
Maybe Gleeb can one day grow to what Aphromoo is now (since Aphro wasn't that good of a support to begin with, either), but right now I have my doubts. Aphro was an aggressive adc with solid (though not top tier) mechanics, but Gleeb has been a support this whole time.
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there were some situatins where thresh could have hooked someone and i think i saw gleeb making a expression of damn this could have been something. Maybe he fears starting something that can turn bad and hes the ass.
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On June 02 2014 08:46 Disengaged wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2014 08:45 wei2coolman wrote:
How the fuck did they give hai the mid op? Shiphtur had the harder matchups and performed way fucking better.. Collapsed lung bro. Storylinez.
So fucking dumb. Hai fucking sucked balls against xwx. Meanwhile shiphtur shits on xwx and bjergsen. Rito plz. How the fuck do you get to the conclusion that hai was better than shiphtur?
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On June 02 2014 08:42 Djin)ftw( wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2014 08:35 Sandster wrote:
Xpecial was vital because he was often the primary engage.
Watching TSM play without an engage is horrible. Who the hell gives up the 3rd inhib for absolutely free without at least attempting to fight? If you lose it, the game is over. Drawing out the game longer does not give you a higher % of winning.
Watching this Volibear though...hahaha.... Not only this. Their decision making is really terrible. Dunno. Currently I'd say regi should replace Bjergsen. He isnt as dominant anymore and the lack of shot calling is their biggest weakness
Bjergsen just has no clue what to do. He isn't comfortable in that meta at all, i'm surprised that they're not pulling Karma mid again.
TSM are on their way to be CLG-2013.
On June 02 2014 08:47 Sandster wrote:
Seriously just compare Aphromoo to Gleeb. The difference in mechanics and decision making is just ridiculous.
Maybe Gleeb can one day grow to what Aphromoo is now (since Aphro wasn't that good of a support to begin with, either), but right now I have my doubts. Aphro was an aggressive adc with solid (though not top tier) mechanics, but Gleeb has been a support this whole time.
Curse AD < CLG Support.
On June 02 2014 08:49 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2014 08:47 Sandster wrote:
Seriously just compare Aphromoo to Gleeb. The difference in mechanics and decision making is just ridiculous.
Maybe Gleeb can one day grow to what Aphromoo is now (since Aphro wasn't that good of a support to begin with, either), but right now I have my doubts. Aphro was an aggressive adc with solid (though not top tier) mechanics, but Gleeb has been a support this whole time. Kiwi used to be shittastic top laner. Now he's a fucking support god.
RIP Singed/Elise.
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On June 02 2014 08:47 TitusVI wrote:
there were some situatins where thresh could have hooked someone and i think i saw gleeb making a expression of damn this could have been something. Maybe he fears starting something that can turn bad and hes the ass.
Probably. He easily has the most pressure on him out of anyone on the team.
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On June 02 2014 08:47 Sandster wrote:
Seriously just compare Aphromoo to Gleeb. The difference in mechanics and decision making is just ridiculous.
Maybe Gleeb can one day grow to what Aphromoo is now (since Aphro wasn't that good of a support to begin with, either), but right now I have my doubts. Aphro was an aggressive adc with solid (though not top tier) mechanics, but Gleeb has been a support this whole time.
Kiwi used to be shittastic top laner. Now he's a fucking support god.
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On June 02 2014 08:49 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2014 08:47 Sandster wrote:
Seriously just compare Aphromoo to Gleeb. The difference in mechanics and decision making is just ridiculous.
Maybe Gleeb can one day grow to what Aphromoo is now (since Aphro wasn't that good of a support to begin with, either), but right now I have my doubts. Aphro was an aggressive adc with solid (though not top tier) mechanics, but Gleeb has been a support this whole time. Kiwi used to be shittastic top laner. Now he's a fucking support god.
With that logic then replace Dyrus with Gleeb for top and he'll be a top lane god.
Scratch that. Theres no hope for him.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
Nail in the coffin.
And i honestly have no idea why can't TSM adjust.
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I was promised Stvicious vs Elementz.
I WAS LIED TO!
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On June 02 2014 08:51 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Nail in the coffin.
And i honestly have no idea why can't TSM adjust.
Ahhh yes that classic Week Two nail in the coffin. How on earth can TSM ever hope to improve?
>.>
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