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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
April 28 2014 01:26 GMT
#3121
On April 28 2014 10:25 Crusnik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2014 10:23 VayneAuthority wrote:
shiphtur was the only one that actually looked crush, rest of the team didnt seem to care that much


Takes some time to actually sink in that you just lost your livelihood, it'll sink in soon enough.

CoL.Black deserved the win though, they outplayed Coast for most of the series.


Dunno about outplayed, Coast still threw 2 games from 4.
All series had to go like Game 3 with Coast just rolling, but somehow they choked even against team who they chose.
It wasn't as pathetic as NiP-KMT but still.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Gator
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States3432 Posts
April 28 2014 01:27 GMT
#3122
offseason drama is gonna be so hype!!!
TSM
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
April 28 2014 01:28 GMT
#3123
On April 28 2014 10:23 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2014 10:22 Ryuu314 wrote:
On April 28 2014 10:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
On April 28 2014 10:18 Ryuu314 wrote:
On April 28 2014 10:18 Kinie wrote:
So if Coast broke up right now, disbanded, would CLG snap pick up Zion Spartain and try to mold him from a split pusher into a team player?

i dont think zion's that good...he's incredibly inconsistent.

when he carries he carries hard, but when he sucks he's fucking awful. it seems that he's just too easily shut down when teams focus him.


league is very similar to basketball, if you get double teamed obviously you arent going to be as effective. Zion surrounded with better players wont allow him to be focused.

except the top tier top laners, even in NA, are always able to make an impact even if they get focused. Look at Balls or Dyrus.

Yeah, look at Dyrus, he feeds 10 kills every game against Balls.

Fine, look at Balls or the Korean top laners. No point in being pedantic. Heck, even HSGG in his prime is a pretty good example.

Zionspartan is way overestimated. If you put him on Jax he really shines, but ban that out and he just seems mediocre against teams that focus him. This series I think wasn't a good indicator since Westrice, as much as I love the guy, is honestly not a very good laner and I expect to see him get crushed in LCS.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
April 28 2014 01:28 GMT
#3124
Is it Bubbadub's wife cosplaying Caitlyn? Lmfao.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
April 28 2014 01:28 GMT
#3125
I think we're missing the real most important thing, we will bask in the glory bubadubb's stache for at least a solid 10 weeks. Truly this was gift.
Glorious SEA doto
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
April 28 2014 01:29 GMT
#3126
Honestly as much as I like Zion I'd be surprised to see him in the pcs ever again
Carrilord has arrived.
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
April 28 2014 01:29 GMT
#3127
On April 28 2014 10:26 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2014 10:25 Crusnik wrote:
On April 28 2014 10:23 VayneAuthority wrote:
shiphtur was the only one that actually looked crush, rest of the team didnt seem to care that much


Takes some time to actually sink in that you just lost your livelihood, it'll sink in soon enough.

CoL.Black deserved the win though, they outplayed Coast for most of the series.


Dunno about outplayed, Coast still threw 2 games from 4.
All series had to go like Game 3 with Coast just rolling, but somehow they choked even against team who they chose.
It wasn't as pathetic as NiP-KMT but still.


Agreed, CLB didn't impress me at all. Most of the teams they play against in the LCS will have a competent jungler/botlane, and CLB has fucking Westrice playing toplane for them.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 28 2014 01:30 GMT
#3128
On April 28 2014 10:29 Swords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2014 10:26 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On April 28 2014 10:25 Crusnik wrote:
On April 28 2014 10:23 VayneAuthority wrote:
shiphtur was the only one that actually looked crush, rest of the team didnt seem to care that much


Takes some time to actually sink in that you just lost your livelihood, it'll sink in soon enough.

CoL.Black deserved the win though, they outplayed Coast for most of the series.


Dunno about outplayed, Coast still threw 2 games from 4.
All series had to go like Game 3 with Coast just rolling, but somehow they choked even against team who they chose.
It wasn't as pathetic as NiP-KMT but still.


Agreed, CLB didn't impress me at all. Most of the teams they play against in the LCS will have a competent jungler/botlane, and CLB has fucking Westrice playing toplane for them.

C9T > CLB. EG just didn't choke like Coast.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
April 28 2014 01:30 GMT
#3129
On April 28 2014 10:29 Swords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2014 10:26 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On April 28 2014 10:25 Crusnik wrote:
On April 28 2014 10:23 VayneAuthority wrote:
shiphtur was the only one that actually looked crush, rest of the team didnt seem to care that much


Takes some time to actually sink in that you just lost your livelihood, it'll sink in soon enough.

CoL.Black deserved the win though, they outplayed Coast for most of the series.


Dunno about outplayed, Coast still threw 2 games from 4.
All series had to go like Game 3 with Coast just rolling, but somehow they choked even against team who they chose.
It wasn't as pathetic as NiP-KMT but still.


Agreed, CLB didn't impress me at all. Most of the teams they play against in the LCS will have a competent jungler/botlane, and CLB has fucking Westrice playing toplane for them.

I think robertabub can stand up to the LCS bot lanes, borkborkshard I'm not convinced on if he isn't harvesting nintendude.
Glorious SEA doto
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21630 Posts
April 28 2014 01:30 GMT
#3130
On April 28 2014 10:26 Swords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2014 10:24 onlywonderboy wrote:
dig Shiphtur makes a lot of sense if they really just weren't impressed with Goldenglue's performance.


Scarra LOVES Shiphtur, so I can definitely see it happening. And if I were CLG I'd be a lot less enthused with the idea of taking Link out of mid after seeing Shiphtur's performance that series.

I would have guessed it would be obvious by now that it doesnt matter what Scarra wants.
He got removed from the team with no warning, and then he got put back on without warning. He has 0 say in anything.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
ParadeofMadness
Profile Joined February 2014
United Kingdom1027 Posts
April 28 2014 01:30 GMT
#3131
Why the hell would CLG pick Zion over Zoro? Only if Zoro refuses to come to US and then you have still KR. CLG's new top laner from NA chances are incredibly now (and not surprising given the ability)
See Noob, Flame Noob. Top Lane main. 120ping master race Aspire to be one man rape train : choo-choo- yamedie~ mothafucka
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
April 28 2014 01:31 GMT
#3132
On April 28 2014 10:29 Swords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2014 10:26 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On April 28 2014 10:25 Crusnik wrote:
On April 28 2014 10:23 VayneAuthority wrote:
shiphtur was the only one that actually looked crush, rest of the team didnt seem to care that much


Takes some time to actually sink in that you just lost your livelihood, it'll sink in soon enough.

CoL.Black deserved the win though, they outplayed Coast for most of the series.


Dunno about outplayed, Coast still threw 2 games from 4.
All series had to go like Game 3 with Coast just rolling, but somehow they choked even against team who they chose.
It wasn't as pathetic as NiP-KMT but still.


Agreed, CLB didn't impress me at all. Most of the teams they play against in the LCS will have a competent jungler/botlane, and CLB has fucking Westrice playing toplane for them.


I can't WAIT for when Westrice goes against Balls.

Gonna get destroyed
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 28 2014 01:32 GMT
#3133
On April 28 2014 10:28 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2014 10:23 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 28 2014 10:22 Ryuu314 wrote:
On April 28 2014 10:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
On April 28 2014 10:18 Ryuu314 wrote:
On April 28 2014 10:18 Kinie wrote:
So if Coast broke up right now, disbanded, would CLG snap pick up Zion Spartain and try to mold him from a split pusher into a team player?

i dont think zion's that good...he's incredibly inconsistent.

when he carries he carries hard, but when he sucks he's fucking awful. it seems that he's just too easily shut down when teams focus him.


league is very similar to basketball, if you get double teamed obviously you arent going to be as effective. Zion surrounded with better players wont allow him to be focused.

except the top tier top laners, even in NA, are always able to make an impact even if they get focused. Look at Balls or Dyrus.

Yeah, look at Dyrus, he feeds 10 kills every game against Balls.

Fine, look at Balls or the Korean top laners. No point in being pedantic. Heck, even HSGG in his prime is a pretty good example.

Zionspartan is way overestimated. If you put him on Jax he really shines, but ban that out and he just seems mediocre against teams that focus him. This series I think wasn't a good indicator since Westrice, as much as I love the guy, is honestly not a very good laner and I expect to see him get crushed in LCS.

What are you even talking about? this entire series Zion was the rock for his team. He was constantly doing what he needed to do. If there's a case to be made for zion, it's that he has a shit botlane, and jungler. Just look at s3 DL. He looked like shit, cuz he didn't have a fucking jungler, or toplaner. So guess what the fuck happens? mid and jungler from enemy team just fucking focuses botlane all fucking game. Only shortsighted fools looked at s3 and say "DL fucking sucks", or "DL is mediocre", when in reality there's no pressure being taken off him
liftlift > tsm
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
April 28 2014 01:32 GMT
#3134
--- Nuked ---
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
April 28 2014 01:33 GMT
#3135
that's probably the last time we've seen wiz and nintendude
A backwards poet writes inverse.
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
April 28 2014 01:33 GMT
#3136
Brokenshard seems like a really nice guy, but I think he'll get destroyed by competent junglers like Meteos. Then again, it's not like there are many competent junglers in NA LCS. Going by Cheep's measure of how he does when he's behind, I think Brokenshard played pretty poorly when he's behind. And, of course, he was going up against Nintendude.

CLB bot and mid lane seem stable, but their top is going to be a pretty big liability against TSM/C9/LomoQ, and maybe CLG if CLG gets a good toplaner.
darkness overpowering
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
April 28 2014 01:33 GMT
#3137
only team that can lift this upcoming split is LMQ, which will make things a little more interesting. The roster changes are going to be a real crap shoot though.
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
April 28 2014 01:33 GMT
#3138
On April 28 2014 10:30 ParadeofMadness wrote:
Why the hell would CLG pick Zion over Zoro? Only if Zoro refuses to come to US and then you have still KR. CLG's new top laner from NA chances are incredibly now (and not surprising given the ability)


Monte has flat out said CLG is not getting a Korean top laner, I'm inclined to believe him.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 28 2014 01:34 GMT
#3139


this is coming from the guy who put zuna in jungle.
liftlift > tsm
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
April 28 2014 01:34 GMT
#3140
On April 28 2014 10:30 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2014 10:29 Swords wrote:
On April 28 2014 10:26 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On April 28 2014 10:25 Crusnik wrote:
On April 28 2014 10:23 VayneAuthority wrote:
shiphtur was the only one that actually looked crush, rest of the team didnt seem to care that much


Takes some time to actually sink in that you just lost your livelihood, it'll sink in soon enough.

CoL.Black deserved the win though, they outplayed Coast for most of the series.


Dunno about outplayed, Coast still threw 2 games from 4.
All series had to go like Game 3 with Coast just rolling, but somehow they choked even against team who they chose.
It wasn't as pathetic as NiP-KMT but still.


Agreed, CLB didn't impress me at all. Most of the teams they play against in the LCS will have a competent jungler/botlane, and CLB has fucking Westrice playing toplane for them.

C9T > CLB. EG just didn't choke like Coast.


Agreed here. Coast almost choked last time, this time it had to happen tbh. Shiphtur just crumbles under pressure it seems, no more than a shadow of casual Shiphtur.
And only this is already red flag for CLG, they can't choke more if they want to perform in Summer and on Worlds.

On April 28 2014 10:29 Swords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2014 10:26 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On April 28 2014 10:25 Crusnik wrote:
On April 28 2014 10:23 VayneAuthority wrote:
shiphtur was the only one that actually looked crush, rest of the team didnt seem to care that much


Takes some time to actually sink in that you just lost your livelihood, it'll sink in soon enough.

CoL.Black deserved the win though, they outplayed Coast for most of the series.


Dunno about outplayed, Coast still threw 2 games from 4.
All series had to go like Game 3 with Coast just rolling, but somehow they choked even against team who they chose.
It wasn't as pathetic as NiP-KMT but still.


Agreed, CLB didn't impress me at all. Most of the teams they play against in the LCS will have a competent jungler/botlane, and CLB has fucking Westrice playing toplane for them.


I still don't think they will be on Velocity level, especially considering NA LCS which is currently without all shuffles is top-3 + LMQ + other 4. 7-8 wins at least are possible, but they're going to relegations for sure if Westrice continues do this shit.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
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