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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21630 Posts
April 07 2014 00:18 GMT
#1921
On April 07 2014 09:13 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 09:10 Gorsameth wrote:
Only XDG can lose a ryze vs lee sin lane this hard...

serious question here, why are you all so convinced that ryze beats lee sin?

ryze has a bad early game. lee sin has a pretty good early game. evelynn is a decent early ganker who requires a lot of gold investment in warding off. every pink benny has to buy sets the ryze power spike back. ryze has poor wave clear early which means he's easy to dive. lee sin is a good diver thanks to the mobility and shields.

idk. i've never seen this matchup before, but i wouldn't have automatically assumed ryze necessarily has the edge here. sure, he outscales, but it's a real rough early game for him, especially if xmithie doesn't read eve's movements well and is never there to back him up.

Ryze early game is bad against mid champions which is why you run him top. He can punish Lee for every CS he tries to get while Rune Prison prevent the lane opponent from committing to harass himself.
Worst care Ryze plays defensive and just farms knowing he will outscale Lee Sin hard.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Doominator10
Profile Joined August 2012
United States515 Posts
April 07 2014 00:18 GMT
#1922
These casters are great XD
Your DOOM has arrived,,,, and is handing out cookies
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 07 2014 00:19 GMT
#1923
On April 07 2014 09:18 Doominator10 wrote:
These casters are great XD

The one time I watch the game on mute T_T
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Kontossis
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada256 Posts
April 07 2014 00:19 GMT
#1924
Holy crap, EG is so indecisive when going for turrets. They can easily dive any any turrets outside of base with their advantage.
Nom nom nom...
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21630 Posts
April 07 2014 00:20 GMT
#1925
On April 07 2014 09:19 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 09:18 Doominator10 wrote:
These casters are great XD

The one time I watch the game on mute T_T

If EG wins between 40-44 minutes Phreak will shave off his beard.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
April 07 2014 00:20 GMT
#1926
On April 07 2014 09:18 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 09:13 Kiett wrote:
On April 07 2014 09:10 Gorsameth wrote:
Only XDG can lose a ryze vs lee sin lane this hard...

serious question here, why are you all so convinced that ryze beats lee sin?

ryze has a bad early game. lee sin has a pretty good early game. evelynn is a decent early ganker who requires a lot of gold investment in warding off. every pink benny has to buy sets the ryze power spike back. ryze has poor wave clear early which means he's easy to dive. lee sin is a good diver thanks to the mobility and shields.

idk. i've never seen this matchup before, but i wouldn't have automatically assumed ryze necessarily has the edge here. sure, he outscales, but it's a real rough early game for him, especially if xmithie doesn't read eve's movements well and is never there to back him up.

Ryze early game is bad against mid champions which is why you run him top. He can punish Lee for every CS he tries to get while Rune Prison prevent the lane opponent from committing to harass himself.
Worst care Ryze plays defensive and just farms knowing he will outscale Lee Sin hard.

Okay, fair enough. I suppose it would be a different story if we were talking about Flame Ryze with decent jungle support playing vs a Lee Sin top. I'd actually like to see that happen. Too bad Insec isn't top anymore :c
Writer:o
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
April 07 2014 00:21 GMT
#1927
Wow, I wanted XDG to win, but now, I really want EG to win between the 40-44 minute mark. Lol.
darkness overpowering
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
April 07 2014 00:21 GMT
#1928
On April 07 2014 09:20 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 09:19 onlywonderboy wrote:
On April 07 2014 09:18 Doominator10 wrote:
These casters are great XD

The one time I watch the game on mute T_T

If EG wins between 40-44 minutes Phreak will shave off his beard.

Chin strap*
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
April 07 2014 00:21 GMT
#1929
60+ minutes game won by EG be the perfect end of today.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
April 07 2014 00:21 GMT
#1930
XDG don't really have a chance, but they've fallen completely into "just sit back and lose instead of at least try to make picks". This is going to be one of those games where they just watch their base get destroyed and lose instead of doing anything.
qotsager
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany585 Posts
April 07 2014 00:21 GMT
#1931
yeah kobe and phreak are easily the most entertaining duo of casters. shame they don't cast together more often.
***Official ABL Winner 2013***
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-07 00:23:48
April 07 2014 00:23 GMT
#1932
EG have a 20k gold lead or so...
qotsager
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany585 Posts
April 07 2014 00:24 GMT
#1933
On April 07 2014 09:23 ketchup wrote:
EG have a 20k gold lead or so...


19.5k was pretty accurate actually
***Official ABL Winner 2013***
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
April 07 2014 00:24 GMT
#1934
On April 07 2014 09:24 qotsager wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 09:23 ketchup wrote:
EG have a 20k gold lead or so...


19.5k was pretty accurate actually


It is going to be 20k soon. Don't worry
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
April 07 2014 00:26 GMT
#1935
END THE GAME

COME ON

END IT
Writer:o
qotsager
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany585 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-07 00:26:55
April 07 2014 00:26 GMT
#1936
On April 07 2014 09:24 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 09:24 qotsager wrote:
On April 07 2014 09:23 ketchup wrote:
EG have a 20k gold lead or so...


19.5k was pretty accurate actually


It is going to be 20k soon. Don't worry


it's even more now. and i'm loving it. i think it's adorable how hard they are trying not to fuck up :D
***Official ABL Winner 2013***
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 07 2014 00:27 GMT
#1937
4 minutes, let the timer begin.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
skykh
Profile Joined September 2012
3006 Posts
April 07 2014 00:27 GMT
#1938
I hope this game dc
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21630 Posts
April 07 2014 00:27 GMT
#1939
Noooo EG backed off to far
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
April 07 2014 00:27 GMT
#1940
3rd item GA reminds me of when DLift when BT into GA earlier in the Split
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
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