On April 07 2014 15:03 739 wrote:
lol TSM lost to XDG, hwo is that even possible.
lol TSM lost to XDG, hwo is that even possible.
TSM wants them to beat at least every team once this split.
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Tenhou
1052 Posts
April 07 2014 10:06 GMT
#2021
On April 07 2014 15:03 739 wrote: lol TSM lost to XDG, hwo is that even possible. TSM wants them to beat at least every team once this split. | ||
Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
April 07 2014 10:46 GMT
#2022
On April 07 2014 12:44 Sufficiency wrote: Show nested quote + On April 07 2014 11:30 Zato-1 wrote: On April 07 2014 11:08 Sufficiency wrote: On April 07 2014 11:06 Zato-1 wrote: This is probably goodbye for XDG. A shame, considering that Zuna really stepped up as an ADC this season (compared to how terrible he used to be)- however, their former best players Xmithie and Mancloud failed to perform like they used to, and combined with very poor management decisions, it ended up sinking a team that was a terror on the NA scene once. If anything, I'm a little sad for Sheep; he hit the ground running for XDG and I feel like he was the best player for the team overall this split- skill wise, Sheep deserves to remain in NA LCS more than anyone else in XDG, IMO. Xmithie is still OK. You can't expect to move him back to the jungle and instantly expect him to perform. XDG is ruined by nepotism. End of story. I am glad they are gone. I do feel sorry for mancloud and Xmith I can't agree that XDG was _ruined_ by nepotism. Zuna's still among the bottom 4 ADCs currently in NA LCS (along with Cop, Wizfujiin and Yellowpete IMO), but whereas last season you could say they were really held back by nepotism because Zuna was truly awful, this season Zuna was merely below average and is only partly responsible for the team's last place finish; management incompetence ranks as a bigger culprit for me than Zuna's performance. If it's not nepotism, explain why he was able to swap his role 3 times? For the same reason Chauster swapped around so much in CLG, I guess (ADC -> Support -> Jungle -> Support): Poor decisions. EDIT: The reasoning given for switching Chauster to jungle was the same one given for switching Zuna to jungle, btw: these players were the big shotcallers in their respective teams, and the idea was that jungle was the proper role for shotcalling so they were both moved to the jungle (and both sucked at it). | ||
ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
April 07 2014 14:00 GMT
#2023
On April 07 2014 19:46 Zato-1 wrote: Show nested quote + On April 07 2014 12:44 Sufficiency wrote: On April 07 2014 11:30 Zato-1 wrote: On April 07 2014 11:08 Sufficiency wrote: On April 07 2014 11:06 Zato-1 wrote: This is probably goodbye for XDG. A shame, considering that Zuna really stepped up as an ADC this season (compared to how terrible he used to be)- however, their former best players Xmithie and Mancloud failed to perform like they used to, and combined with very poor management decisions, it ended up sinking a team that was a terror on the NA scene once. If anything, I'm a little sad for Sheep; he hit the ground running for XDG and I feel like he was the best player for the team overall this split- skill wise, Sheep deserves to remain in NA LCS more than anyone else in XDG, IMO. Xmithie is still OK. You can't expect to move him back to the jungle and instantly expect him to perform. XDG is ruined by nepotism. End of story. I am glad they are gone. I do feel sorry for mancloud and Xmith I can't agree that XDG was _ruined_ by nepotism. Zuna's still among the bottom 4 ADCs currently in NA LCS (along with Cop, Wizfujiin and Yellowpete IMO), but whereas last season you could say they were really held back by nepotism because Zuna was truly awful, this season Zuna was merely below average and is only partly responsible for the team's last place finish; management incompetence ranks as a bigger culprit for me than Zuna's performance. If it's not nepotism, explain why he was able to swap his role 3 times? For the same reason Chauster swapped around so much in CLG, I guess (ADC -> Support -> Jungle -> Support): Poor decisions. EDIT: The reasoning given for switching Chauster to jungle was the same one given for switching Zuna to jungle, btw: these players were the big shotcallers in their respective teams, and the idea was that jungle was the proper role for shotcalling so they were both moved to the jungle (and both sucked at it). Jungler as shotcaller is a pretty soloQ mentality. Then again, some of these LCS teams play like they're in soloQ. | ||
Keniji
Netherlands2569 Posts
April 07 2014 14:45 GMT
#2024
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
April 07 2014 15:38 GMT
#2025
On April 07 2014 19:46 Zato-1 wrote: Show nested quote + On April 07 2014 12:44 Sufficiency wrote: On April 07 2014 11:30 Zato-1 wrote: On April 07 2014 11:08 Sufficiency wrote: On April 07 2014 11:06 Zato-1 wrote: This is probably goodbye for XDG. A shame, considering that Zuna really stepped up as an ADC this season (compared to how terrible he used to be)- however, their former best players Xmithie and Mancloud failed to perform like they used to, and combined with very poor management decisions, it ended up sinking a team that was a terror on the NA scene once. If anything, I'm a little sad for Sheep; he hit the ground running for XDG and I feel like he was the best player for the team overall this split- skill wise, Sheep deserves to remain in NA LCS more than anyone else in XDG, IMO. Xmithie is still OK. You can't expect to move him back to the jungle and instantly expect him to perform. XDG is ruined by nepotism. End of story. I am glad they are gone. I do feel sorry for mancloud and Xmith I can't agree that XDG was _ruined_ by nepotism. Zuna's still among the bottom 4 ADCs currently in NA LCS (along with Cop, Wizfujiin and Yellowpete IMO), but whereas last season you could say they were really held back by nepotism because Zuna was truly awful, this season Zuna was merely below average and is only partly responsible for the team's last place finish; management incompetence ranks as a bigger culprit for me than Zuna's performance. If it's not nepotism, explain why he was able to swap his role 3 times? For the same reason Chauster swapped around so much in CLG, I guess (ADC -> Support -> Jungle -> Support): Poor decisions. EDIT: The reasoning given for switching Chauster to jungle was the same one given for switching Zuna to jungle, btw: these players were the big shotcallers in their respective teams, and the idea was that jungle was the proper role for shotcalling so they were both moved to the jungle (and both sucked at it). Chauster is only person in competitive LoL who played every role plus he did it in same team. On April 07 2014 23:45 Keniji wrote: they were like chauster so smart, smartest player in league, deepest understanding of the game of any player. He must be god in a highly decision making, less mechanical demanding role. hue. And they were right. There are almost no minds in Western LoL who can be compared to Chauster at that part. His mechanics were never bad as well, just so you know. | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21242 Posts
April 07 2014 15:44 GMT
#2026
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
April 07 2014 16:01 GMT
#2027
On April 08 2014 00:44 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: I still maintain 4 Chausters and a Doublelift is the best possible CLG team. I prefer SV-pre OGN in jungle l0l. | ||
Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
April 08 2014 00:03 GMT
#2028
On April 07 2014 23:45 Keniji wrote: they were like chauster so smart, smartest player in league, deepest understanding of the game of any player. He must be god in a highly decision making, less mechanical demanding role. hue. I think this is what happened with CLG too. But Zuna is no chauster. | ||
Doominator10
United States515 Posts
April 09 2014 20:01 GMT
#2029
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21389 Posts
April 09 2014 20:06 GMT
#2030
Dig VS CLG Bans: LeBlanc, Evelynn, Lulu Bans: Zed, Draven, Elise Picks: Kha'Zix, Annie, Orianna, Ezreal, Jayce Picks: Tresh, Lee Sin, Nidalee, Lucian, Trundle Poll: Recommend Dig vs CLG Spring Week 11? Yes (12) No (3) If you have time (0) 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend Dig vs CLG Spring Week 11? XDG VS TSM Bans: LeBlanc, Zed, Renekton Bans: Lee Sin, Lulu, Kha'zix Picks: Tresh, Elise, Jinx, Orianna, Ryze Picks: Shyvana, Evelynn, Karma, Corki, Syndra Poll: Recommend XDG vs TSM Spring Week 11? Yes (12) No (0) If you have time (1) 13 total votes Your vote: Recommend XDG vs TSM Spring Week 11? Cloud9 VS Coast Bans: Jax, Thresh, Leona Bans: Lulu Kha'zix, Soraka Picks: Lucian, Karma, Gragas, Nocturn, Renekton Picks: Lee Sin, Evelynn, Annie, Caitlyn, LeBlanc Poll: Recommend Cloud9 vs Coast Spring Week 11? Yes (19) No (0) If you have time (0) 19 total votes Your vote: Recommend Cloud9 vs Coast Spring Week 11? XDG VS EG Bans: Nidalee, Heimer, Zed Bans: Kha'zix, Lulu, Tresh Picks: Ryze, Pantheon, Caitlyn, Orianna, Morgana Picks: LeBlanc, Leona, Lee Sin, Lucian, Evelynn | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
April 10 2014 00:23 GMT
#2031
On April 10 2014 05:01 Doominator10 wrote: Update OP plz :D Many updates. Thanks to Gorsameth for being a bro and totally kicking ass on LR stuff all the time. | ||
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