EPT[NA LCS] Spring 2014 Super Week 11 - Page 101
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On April 07 2014 09:39 Anggroth wrote: Forget that how did Pobelter get it for Mid with that XDG game as the evidence, he had the worst performance on the team. Let's count. Hai got MVP. Bjergsen was failing half of the week. Link can't get it because CLG were throwing games and lost to C9. Voyboy was failing hard. Goldenglue was 1-man-shockwaving. Mancloud was just eliminated from LCS. And Shiphtur, welp, poor Shiphtur. So, there is at least some logic with Pobelter. | ||
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Anggroth
United Kingdom345 Posts
On April 07 2014 09:44 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: Let's count. Hai got MVP. Bjergsen was failing half of the week. Link can't get it because CLG were throwing games and lost to C9. Voyboy was failing hard. Goldenglue was 1-man-shockwaving. Mancloud was just eliminated from LCS. And Shiphtur, welp, poor Shiphtur. So, there is at least some logic with Pobelter. Shiphtur really deserved it over him, I know they lost, but that was in no way his fault and he showed how you actually play Leblanc. | ||
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ParadeofMadness
United Kingdom1027 Posts
On April 07 2014 09:42 ticklishmusic wrote: Meanwhile, Innox sits on the sidelines with his 11/0/11. You suprised? When was the time casters watched the same game as ours? Pretty sure they roll a dice to set mvp beforehand. Then they just copy and paste the stats into the preprogramming lol | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
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TitusVI
Germany8319 Posts
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
If anything, I'm a little sad for Sheep; he hit the ground running for XDG and I feel like he was the best player for the team overall this split- skill wise, Sheep deserves to remain in NA LCS more than anyone else in XDG, IMO. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On April 07 2014 11:06 Zato-1 wrote: This is probably goodbye for XDG. A shame, considering that Zuna really stepped up as an ADC this season (compared to how terrible he used to be)- however, their former best players Xmithie and Mancloud failed to perform like they used to, and combined with very poor management decisions, it ended up sinking a team that was a terror on the NA scene once. If anything, I'm a little sad for Sheep; he hit the ground running for XDG and I feel like he was the best player for the team overall this split- skill wise, Sheep deserves to remain in NA LCS more than anyone else in XDG, IMO. Xmithie is still OK. You can't expect to move him back to the jungle and instantly expect him to perform. XDG is ruined by nepotism. End of story. I am glad they are gone. I do feel sorry for mancloud and Xmith | ||
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
On April 07 2014 11:08 Sufficiency wrote: Xmithie is still OK. You can't expect to move him back to the jungle and instantly expect him to perform. XDG is ruined by nepotism. End of story. I am glad they are gone. I do feel sorry for mancloud and Xmith I can't agree that XDG was _ruined_ by nepotism. Zuna's still among the bottom 4 ADCs currently in NA LCS (along with Cop, Wizfujiin and Yellowpete IMO), but whereas last season you could say they were really held back by nepotism because Zuna was truly awful, this season Zuna was merely below average and is only partly responsible for the team's last place finish; management incompetence ranks as a bigger culprit for me than Zuna's performance. | ||
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NovaTheFeared
United States7226 Posts
On April 07 2014 11:30 Zato-1 wrote: I can't that XDG was _ruined_ by nepotism. Zuna's still among the bottom 4 ADCs currently in NA LCS (along with Cop, Wizfujiin and Yellowpete IMO), but whereas last season you could say they were really held back by nepotism because Zuna was truly awful, this season Zuna was merely below average and is only partly responsible for the team's last place finish; management incompetence ranks as a bigger culprit for me than Zuna's performance. Management incompetence is the nepotism. They put Zuna in jungle for so long, where he failed miserably, in order to justify keeping him on the team. They tanked to the bottom and never got back out as a result of trying to keep Zuna on the team. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
On April 07 2014 11:37 NovaTheFeared wrote: Management incompetence is the nepotism. They put Zuna in jungle for so long, where he failed miserably, in order to justify keeping him on the team. They tanked to the bottom and never got back out as a result of trying to keep Zuna on the team. Thing is, I'm not sure. Management could've kept Zuna on the team without the pants-on-head retarded role swap between Zuna and Xmithie by, you know, not making that role swap. Would XDG have fared better if Zuna was replaced by someone like RobertxLee? Maybe, but I'm not even sure, considering the time it usually takes to get proper coordination with a new player and that Zuna is (I think?) an important part of XDG's shotcalling. He's hardly a master strategist, but a mediocre shotcaller is a lot better than no shotcaller. Instead of replacing Zuna, I think XDG would've been better served by not making the stupid role swap and probably getting a better coach- so as far as nepotism goes, I think Zuna's brother was a bigger problem than Zuna himself. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
On April 07 2014 12:23 Ryuu314 wrote: wasn't there numerous statements saying that the zuna/xmithie switch was motivated by the players not management I can't claim to know for sure what motivated the switch, but it was still a very poor decision and a big reason why XDG finished in last place, IMO. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On April 07 2014 11:30 Zato-1 wrote: I can't agree that XDG was _ruined_ by nepotism. Zuna's still among the bottom 4 ADCs currently in NA LCS (along with Cop, Wizfujiin and Yellowpete IMO), but whereas last season you could say they were really held back by nepotism because Zuna was truly awful, this season Zuna was merely below average and is only partly responsible for the team's last place finish; management incompetence ranks as a bigger culprit for me than Zuna's performance. If it's not nepotism, explain why he was able to swap his role 3 times? | ||
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1godless
United States247 Posts
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MagnusWolf
United States483 Posts
On April 07 2014 13:07 1godless wrote: Any good games to watch from today? Asmo is letting us down with no polls, which frankly is one of the best parts of these threads The C9 vs CST game was pretty good, if only for the way it ended. | ||
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
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Mikau
Netherlands1446 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21909 Posts
On April 07 2014 13:07 1godless wrote: Any good games to watch from today? Asmo is letting us down with no polls, which frankly is one of the best parts of these threads pm'ed him the polls from 5e and 6e right after the last game finished so he just has to get around to adding them in. | ||
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