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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On March 24 2014 08:26 Gorsameth wrote: Probably because it was a stomp and they vote no on stomps? Or a very bitter EG fan. There was a "not" there. I was wondering how one can recommend such a game. Except you like cringing when watching League. | ||
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TitusVI
Germany8319 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On March 24 2014 08:28 TitusVI wrote: is the next game good or worth watching? Crs academy and C9.Tempest don't entirely blow so by NA challenger standards probably | ||
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Anakko
France1934 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
all aboard the shiphtur bus. | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On March 24 2014 14:05 wei2coolman wrote: https://twitter.com/RiotKobe/status/447844541207302144 all aboard the shiphtur bus. Shiphtur is in LCS elo hell. | ||
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
*These bottom 3 teams will be huge underdogs against the top 3 teams in their coming games, but have fighting chances against the rest; in this respect, XDG's outlook is the grimmest, as 3/6 of their remaining games are against the top 3 teams, whereas only 2/6 of Coast and EG's remaining games are against the top 3 teams. *At this point in time, Team Coast has a small but definitive lead for taking the 6th spot: It has two small advantages over EG from being 7-15 vs. 6-16 and from being 3-0 in head-to-head record, meaning Coast would win out in case of a tie; and Coast also has three small advantages over XDG from being 7-15 vs 6-16, from having more favorable matchups in their remaining games, and from their final head to head score being even or in Coast's favor when all is said and done. *Because of the desire to avoid a certain Challenger team in relegation, all of the bottom 3 teams will desperately want to avoid finishing dead last. Because of what I outlined in the previous point, I think Coast is a lot less likely to finish 8th than EG and XDG are (though it could still happen, they are on a 6-game losing streak after all), and between EG and XDG, I'd give EG the slightest of edges for avoiding that dreaded last place finish. As for the playoffs, *TSM and C9 will get a bye into the semis and will be favored to win their respective semifinal games against whichever team they end up facing, *Curse should be favored over dig due to their head-to-head score (3-0 in favor of Curse), *CLG should be favored over Coast due to much stronger performance throughout the season and their head-to-head score (4-0 in favor of CLG), and *If they meet after losing their respective quarter-finals games, dig should be favored over Coast due to their head-to-head score (3-0 in favor of dig), leaving Coast, EG and XDG facing relegation, with whichever ends dead last very likely to lose their LCS spot. | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On March 25 2014 05:38 Zato-1 wrote: Looking at the standings, the top two spots look certain to belong to TSM & C9 (not necessarily in that order), CLG is a very safe bet for 3rd place, Curse & dig will probably take 4th and 5th (the order doesn't much matter because 4th and 5th play against each other in playoffs), and the bottom 3 are very close between Coast, EG and XDG: *These bottom 3 teams will be huge underdogs against the top 3 teams in their coming games, but have fighting chances against the rest; in this respect, XDG's outlook is the grimmest, as 3/6 of their remaining games are against the top 3 teams, whereas only 2/6 of Coast and EG's remaining games are against the top 3 teams. *At this point in time, Team Coast has a small but definitive lead for taking the 6th spot: It two small advantages over EG from being 7-15 vs. 6-16 and from being 3-0 in head-to-head record, meaning Coast would win out in case of a tie; and Coast also has three small advantages over XDG from being 7-15 vs 6-16, from having more favorable matchups in their remaining games, and from their final head to head score being even or in Coast's favor when all is said and done. *Because of the desire to avoid a certain Challenger team in relegation, all of the bottom 3 teams will desperately want to avoid finishing dead last. Because of what I outlined in the previous point, I think Coast is a lot less likely to finish 8th than EG and XDG are (though it could still happen, they are on a 6-game losing streak after all), and between EG and XDG, I'd give EG the slightest of edges for avoiding that dreaded last place finish. As for the playoffs, *TSM and C9 will get a bye into the semis, *Curse should be favored over dig due to their head-to-head score (3-0 in favor of Curse), *CLG should be favored over Coast due to much stronger performance throughout the season and their head-to-head score (4-0 in favor of CLG), and *If they meet after losing their respective quarter-finals games, dig should be favored over Coast due to their head-to-head score (3-0 in favor of dig), leaving Coast, EG and XDG facing relegation, with whichever ends dead last very likely to lose their LCS spot. Being 5th is better because you can choose sides. As someone was joking last split - better to finish 6th like GGU and choose sides whole playoffs. And about avoiding - who told you that LMQ (even if they finish first in Promotion Tournament) will choose 8th team? And i won't favour LMQ against C9T even at NACS #2 finals, not speaking about Promotions, not speaking about XDG/Coast and especially, EG, considering ability of those 3 teams to step up in playoffs/relegations. IMO all 3 teams are pretty safe, every LCS midlaner will smash XWX and even EG can camp bottom lane, C9T have Kez and you can just focus on Altec/Gleebglarbu if your sololanes can be on par or win with Bischu/Yazuki, CLB will choke again like it always happen, CLR will lose to CLB in semis, CA were awful yesterday, especially Pat and Duocek and vVv are just vVv. Will be funny if Cris come to LCS again haha but won't happen. Curse will lose to Dignitas and then lose to Coast/XDG/EG, Cop will be benched again, Voyboy will step up as adc. Funniest part is that Curse can't even get someone from their B and C-teams because they look atrocious. I'm quite interested to see CLG in boX series, considering level of preparations which Monte can bring and general flexibility of current roster. Everyone can win this split from C9/TSM/CLG trio, results will be based on players who will step up. Lemon, Xpecial and Aphromoo can win games in solo in good day, they will decide a lot. Can't write off Dignitas right now tho, considering fact that they were close with C9 in last playoffs, when TSM got smashed in finals, but can't favour them against TSM/C9 in BoX, they're not Curse. | ||
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
On March 25 2014 05:52 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: Being 5th is better because you can choose sides. As someone was joking last split - better to finish 6th like GGU and choose sides whole playoffs. And about avoiding - who told you that LMQ (even if they finish first in Promotion Tournament) will choose 8th team? If I understand the promotion format correctly, it's the 6th team from LCS who picks their opponent from the Challenger teams, then the 7th place team picks their opponent from the two teams that are left, and the 8th place gets stuck vs. LMQ. | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On March 25 2014 06:37 Zato-1 wrote: If I understand the promotion format correctly, it's the 6th team from LCS who picks their opponent from the Challenger teams, then the 7th place team picks their opponent from the two teams that are left, and the 8th place gets stuck vs. LMQ. Ye, i forgot about it. But anyway teams have to think about their strengths more than about name of team against. Coast have good sololaners, derp jungle and mediocre bottom lane. If they choose from CLB, C9T and LMQ who will they choose? Rightly so, CLB, because they can just smash sololaners and it will be same story for CLB like it was against EG few months ago. XDG have decent soloes, mediocre bottom lane and smart jungle. Will they choose LMQ or C9T? Noone knows, but i prefer them to choose LMQ and just abuse XWX considering fact that Zuna/Sheep will be in 2v1 situations. Or will they abuse Kez atrocious play by letting soloes be 1v1 and camp Altec/Gleebgarbu? Who knows. Will EG suck against LMQ? Noone knows as well. Pobelter won't lose to XWX in 99/100 situations, they can 2v1 as well and Snoopeh always steps up in playoffs for unknown reasons, so it's 50/50 as best for LMQ. If Coast go with NiP path tho and choose Cloud 9 Tempest like NiP did with KMT - they will lose this time. Bischu and Yazuki won't lose a lot of ground if lose at all, and this time C9T bottom lane won't look as useless as last time and it was 3-2 even with TWZ playing 2,5v5 in lost games. But it will be fun if Coast face C9T and EG face CLB, can challengers get their revenge or no. | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21248 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22705 Posts
On March 25 2014 07:15 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: do people honestly think LMQ won't steamroller everyone on their way into LCS in games that actually matter lol. The delusion is unreal. I would say after Quantic people are more cautious. | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
GG LMQ, let's hide already. 3-0, 28-0, 3-0, C9 will cry. | ||
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Steins;Gate
1422 Posts
On March 25 2014 08:06 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: Ye, we saw how our Chinese overlords showed up on IEM. GG LMQ, let's hide already. 3-0, 28-0, 3-0, C9 will cry. aren't they two patches behind us? | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
On March 25 2014 08:06 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: Ye, we saw how our Chinese overlords showed up on IEM. GG LMQ, let's hide already. 3-0, 28-0, 3-0, C9 will cry. You mean two washed up teams that were patches behind and clearly didn't know how to play against Morgana with patched spelltheif? | ||
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TitusVI
Germany8319 Posts
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