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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 15 2013 06:01 GMT
#1001
On December 15 2013 14:52 zulu_nation8 wrote:
how does cruzer's shyv get outcsd by wickd's malph who tp'd twice and built trifroce

wickd>cruzer, that's why.
liftlift > tsm
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 15 2013 06:06 GMT
#1002
On December 15 2013 14:59 SagaZ wrote:
makes sense on Q centric ezreal, Q doesn't crit, also loves cdr and penetration

it was response to his BC on Sivir, not Ez. On Ez it's fine, though I prefer it on blue build ez, over triforce ez
liftlift > tsm
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
December 15 2013 06:15 GMT
#1003
ok sorry i was confused because there were mention of ezreal in the quote
on sivir it makes sense too, thing with sivir is a) her natural attack speed growth sucks so as is not as effective
and b) the as steroid on the passive of her ult is absolutely gigantic, as long as her w is active, so cdr is really gud

it is a build that relies on the synergie between sivir's W and R
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-15 06:18:50
December 15 2013 06:18 GMT
#1004
Not unlocking crit, reduces the amount of damage she deals more than the extra armor pen, also not to mention no one else on her team was AD.

the worst part about it, was there were no teamfights to make use of the olaf + sivir synergy.
liftlift > tsm
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
December 15 2013 06:25 GMT
#1005
this is a difference of interpretation about the role in general I think
I think he respected the enemy tankline enough to acknowledge he was not killing them anytime soon, with or without crit, and therefore the extra damage done with bounces to the rest of the enemy team was better. If you listen to other top adc this sentiment of "adc being useless cause tanks are invincible" is kind of a trend these days.
More aoe, tower damage, utility and survivability but losing single target damage, sounds good imo
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 15 2013 06:29 GMT
#1006
On December 15 2013 15:25 SagaZ wrote:
this is a difference of interpretation about the role in general I think
I think he respected the enemy tankline enough to acknowledge he was not killing them anytime soon, with or without crit, and therefore the extra damage done with bounces to the rest of the enemy team was better. If you listen to other top adc this sentiment of "adc being useless cause tanks are invincible" is kind of a trend these days.
More aoe, tower damage, utility and survivability but losing single target damage, sounds good imo

She has same amount of utility with or without black cleaver in game 1, where no one on her team did any AD damage. Game 2, olaf and lee sin were other AD, both of which build tons of tank, and only olaf does actual damage, which is mostly true.
Not to mention, majority of the game olaf was always splitpushing, therefore BC utility only for lee sin.
The only reason invincible tanks exist is because you build shit like BC, rather than double your damage with crit.
liftlift > tsm
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-15 07:03:19
December 15 2013 07:02 GMT
#1007
Dunno why Alliance apologized, the point of this entire tournament is to be the EU vs NA hype and trashtalk lol, I would only be offended if this would be offending if this was a real tournament match.

but ok good PR
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-15 07:15:41
December 15 2013 07:15 GMT
#1008
On December 15 2013 16:02 AsnSensation wrote:
Dunno why Alliance apologized, the point of this entire tournament is to be the EU vs NA hype and trashtalk lol, I would only be offended if this would be offending if this was a real tournament match.

but ok good PR

imo it was the best pr move.
there's only positives for doing it.
Everyone who thought it was BM, some will accept apology.
Everyone thought that it was in good fun, won't think any less of Alliance.
liftlift > tsm
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
December 15 2013 07:30 GMT
#1009
On December 15 2013 16:02 AsnSensation wrote:
Dunno why Alliance apologized, the point of this entire tournament is to be the EU vs NA hype and trashtalk lol, I would only be offended if this would be offending if this was a real tournament match.

but ok good PR


Yeah i was thinking the same thing had to be a PR reason.
This trashtalk and showboating is excactly what riot themselfs wanted in this tournament.
If only they were not so dumb to show that Scarra puppy losing face, for some reason ppl started complaining then even though when Dignitas loses he's always got that face
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
December 15 2013 07:43 GMT
#1010
oh rewatched the video, didn't even realize it during the match but the difference in facecam between Froggen and Scarra is hilarious.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
December 15 2013 08:10 GMT
#1011
On December 15 2013 12:09 schmutttt wrote:
Man dig look horrible. Get on them to get relegated next split, they have one player who could be considered top 4 in his position in NA.

They do?
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
December 15 2013 08:16 GMT
#1012
On December 15 2013 17:10 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 12:09 schmutttt wrote:
Man dig look horrible. Get on them to get relegated next split, they have one player who could be considered top 4 in his position in NA.

They do?

Qtpie is still a quality ADC, alliance pretty much had a party at bot lane and scarra/crumbzz/cruzer were never invited.
Glorious SEA doto
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
December 15 2013 08:20 GMT
#1013
On December 15 2013 17:16 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 17:10 Gahlo wrote:
On December 15 2013 12:09 schmutttt wrote:
Man dig look horrible. Get on them to get relegated next split, they have one player who could be considered top 4 in his position in NA.

They do?

Qtpie is still a quality ADC, alliance pretty much had a party at bot lane and scarra/crumbzz/cruzer were never invited.


Are you kidding, Crumbzz was the main party attraction at Bot, and was hugged to death repeatedly.
The others were so busy trying to catch up farm, and felt they lacked funds to party.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9206 Posts
December 15 2013 08:22 GMT
#1014
On December 15 2013 09:03 Sakray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 08:48 RouaF wrote:
Only 2 french players on SHC, like Fnatic also aAa back then already proved that (and I'm obviously talking linak/soaz/yellow aAa's not shlaya's :D)


Weird I recently saw somewhere that it was 4 french 1 swiss :o
Anyway, SHC still throwed hardcore and that sucks.

I think you're confusing SHC with STO. They're the ones with that composition but got eliminated in the promotion group stage.
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
December 15 2013 12:12 GMT
#1015
Poor SHC.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
December 15 2013 12:17 GMT
#1016
After watching these games to me, SK seems by far the weakest team in LCS. I guess they have some time to grow if Nyph does not go to Alliance, but still i have yet to see a single solid game by all members of SK so far.
Flicky
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2670 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-15 12:38:11
December 15 2013 12:36 GMT
#1017
On December 15 2013 21:17 Lysanias wrote:
After watching these games to me, SK seems by far the weakest team in LCS. I guess they have some time to grow if Nyph does not go to Alliance, but still i have yet to see a single solid game by all members of SK so far.


I know they're not a top level team, but watch their absolutely destruction of TheRed from WePlay. SK actually have a lot of promise I think. Svenskeren is top 3 jungler in Europe (Diamond, Cyanide, Svenskeren - Hopefully Shook joins that list soon) and Nyph has been playing amazingly recently, just not in those games. CandyPanda has picked up and if the current champion meta continues, Fredy will do fine. It's basically down to Jesiz getting champs he can play. The team just need to get some momentum and keep it. Coming down from 0-2 is a good sign.

This split is going to be really good. SK are a better team than SHC, but it's still heartbreaking to watch teams go out.
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UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
December 15 2013 12:41 GMT
#1018
Ah, it just kinda feels nice to have SK remain in LCS
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-15 12:47:02
December 15 2013 12:46 GMT
#1019
On December 15 2013 17:16 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 17:10 Gahlo wrote:
On December 15 2013 12:09 schmutttt wrote:
Man dig look horrible. Get on them to get relegated next split, they have one player who could be considered top 4 in his position in NA.

They do?

Qtpie is still a quality ADC, alliance pretty much had a party at bot lane and scarra/crumbzz/cruzer were never invited.

Lol second game Crumbz never left bot lane..

On December 15 2013 21:17 Lysanias wrote:
After watching these games to me, SK seems by far the weakest team in LCS. I guess they have some time to grow if Nyph does not go to Alliance, but still i have yet to see a single solid game by all members of SK so far.

We've yet to see how new LD is doing, I don't have much hope though
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
December 15 2013 12:49 GMT
#1020
On December 15 2013 21:17 Lysanias wrote:
After watching these games to me, SK seems by far the weakest team in LCS. I guess they have some time to grow if Nyph does not go to Alliance, but still i have yet to see a single solid game by all members of SK so far.

You have just not seen LD yet lol. Granted we have all not seen them, but it is hard to imagine tehy will do well.
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