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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-14 19:14:04
December 14 2013 19:13 GMT
#701
On December 15 2013 04:11 Gator wrote:
someone gimme the odds on this game i know nothing about either team

SK beat SHC during dreamhack qualifiers for what it's worth. SHC XD hasn't had the same roster for long. First foton left and svenskeren/freddy left for SK. Then their previous top got replaced by mimer and k0u is too young so impaler came on. I'd favour SK overall.
I think it will likely come down to moopz trying to carry off jesiz. Impaler is brutally British, still cannot help but notice it.
Glorious SEA doto
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-14 19:19:26
December 14 2013 19:15 GMT
#702
On December 15 2013 04:10 ManBaker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 04:06 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On December 15 2013 03:59 wei2coolman wrote:
WT+xpecial should just stomp LD straight up.
Bjergsen just whipped cream on top.

WT, the tyrant of NA challenger tier inc.

TSM will win just fine. It's basically a guaranteed win.

CLG are moderate-ish favorites to win against Atn, in all honesty. This iteration of CLG may actually fulfill its POTENTIAL. just abit maybe.

Fnatic slight favorites against C9 (60-40 Fnatic, probably, or 55-45), depends. No one knows yet how much actually having practice time will have for Fnatic and C9 (neither got any major practice time at Cologne). Smart money is on Fnatic, but don't be surprised if C9 actually pulls through.

GG moderate favorites against XD.GG (FK that name, so much, gawd); it's entirely possible ex-Vulcun ends up not throwing the early game lead they'll most likely accrue. But throw-bargains (and lack of coordinated shotcalling) are so good. Probably 70-30.


TSM's win is just as much guaranteed as Gambit's win is, Vulcun is way below 30% odds against them, even if Alex started playing again yesterday after being sick for so long, it still won't matter.

Vulcun is always a wild card, so I wouldn't count them out quite yet.

TSM's playing against a mish-mashed team of random soloQ players without competitive experience, whose support was a top lane main (and apparently now loses his games as support). Vulcun is at least an established team. I think you're really underestimating Vulcun here, lest we forget the second Gambit vs Vulcun game at worlds. The most beautifully painful throw I've ever seen. Marginally makes me as a Dig fan feel better that I'm not an ex-Vulcun fan, esp. after the name change.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
December 14 2013 19:17 GMT
#703
On December 15 2013 04:13 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 04:11 Nitan wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:06 Numy wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:05 Nitan wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:04 caelym wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:01 Zdrastochye wrote:
On December 15 2013 03:57 Numy wrote:
On December 15 2013 03:57 caelym wrote:
wtf sjokz asks awkward as fuck questions


Man wickd dealt with that pretty well. Don't know why she's doing this.


What'd she ask? Just got back from Christmas shopping and tuned in 30 seconds too late.

She literally asked if the former EG members didn't want to win as much. Maybe the producers made her ask it, but a lot of the stuff she said tried to bait out negative comments and trashtalk.


What? She asked if it was hard to say goodbye to three friends. Wickd is the one who brought up "different life goals? or whatever.


Yes then she asked if one of those goals was that he wanted to win more. It was an obvious bait for some negative comments.


Bait? It was the natural follow up to Wickd's answer. "Different life goals", what does that even mean?

I don't know why she suddenly decided she was a journalist and wanted real answers but saying she's "baiting" is pretty absurd.


The natural follow up would be what are those different goals. Asking specifically if it was he wanted to win more isn't the natural follow up. That's trying to get a comment that either casts himself or his teammates in a negative light. There were various ways she could have gone about following up without doing that but she didn't.


"What are those different life goals?"

"SNOOPEH ALWAYS WANTED TO LIVE IN AMERICA."

Yeah, okay.
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
December 14 2013 19:17 GMT
#704
Go eu SHC !
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
December 14 2013 19:18 GMT
#705
On December 15 2013 04:17 Nitan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 04:13 Numy wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:11 Nitan wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:06 Numy wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:05 Nitan wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:04 caelym wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:01 Zdrastochye wrote:
On December 15 2013 03:57 Numy wrote:
On December 15 2013 03:57 caelym wrote:
wtf sjokz asks awkward as fuck questions


Man wickd dealt with that pretty well. Don't know why she's doing this.


What'd she ask? Just got back from Christmas shopping and tuned in 30 seconds too late.

She literally asked if the former EG members didn't want to win as much. Maybe the producers made her ask it, but a lot of the stuff she said tried to bait out negative comments and trashtalk.


What? She asked if it was hard to say goodbye to three friends. Wickd is the one who brought up "different life goals? or whatever.


Yes then she asked if one of those goals was that he wanted to win more. It was an obvious bait for some negative comments.


Bait? It was the natural follow up to Wickd's answer. "Different life goals", what does that even mean?

I don't know why she suddenly decided she was a journalist and wanted real answers but saying she's "baiting" is pretty absurd.


The natural follow up would be what are those different goals. Asking specifically if it was he wanted to win more isn't the natural follow up. That's trying to get a comment that either casts himself or his teammates in a negative light. There were various ways she could have gone about following up without doing that but she didn't.


"What are those different life goals?"

"SNOOPEH ALWAYS WANTED TO LIVE IN AMERICA."

Yeah, okay.

That's just stating the obvious. Everyone wants a slice of freedom and apple pie yo.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-14 19:19:48
December 14 2013 19:19 GMT
#706
SK vs SHC Game 1

Bans (SK): Morgana, Elise, Lucian
Bans (SHC): Kassadin, Nidalee, Vayne

Picks (SK): Dr. Mundo, Evelynn, Sivir, Zed, Karma
Picks (SHK): Shyvana, Orianna, Sona, Ezreal, Vi
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-14 19:25:12
December 14 2013 19:19 GMT
#707
On December 15 2013 04:15 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 04:10 ManBaker wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:06 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On December 15 2013 03:59 wei2coolman wrote:
WT+xpecial should just stomp LD straight up.
Bjergsen just whipped cream on top.

WT, the tyrant of NA challenger tier inc.

TSM will win just fine. It's basically a guaranteed win.

CLG are moderate-ish favorites to win against Atn, in all honesty. This iteration of CLG may actually fulfill its POTENTIAL. just abit maybe.

Fnatic slight favorites against C9 (60-40 Fnatic, probably, or 55-45), depends. No one knows yet how much actually having practice time will have for Fnatic and C9 (neither got any major practice time at Cologne). Smart money is on Fnatic, but don't be surprised if C9 actually pulls through.

GG moderate favorites against XD.GG (FK that name, so much, gawd); it's entirely possible ex-Vulcun ends up not throwing the early game lead they'll most likely accrue. But throw-bargains (and lack of coordinated shotcalling) are so good. Probably 70-30.


TSM's win is just as much guaranteed as Gambit's win is, Vulcun is way below 30% odds against them, even if Alex started playing again yesterday after being sick for so long, it still won't matter.

Vulcun is always a wild card, so I wouldn't count them out quite yet.

TSM's playing against a mish-mashed team of random soloQ players without competitive experience, whose support was a top lane main (and apparently now loses his games as support). Vulcun is at least an established team. I think you're really underestimating Vulcun here.


I disagree, but not because Vulcun is a bad team or anything. Gambit just look incredible right now, I don't think many teams would have a chance against them. Edward is back and with more gold. Diamond's even stronger in the jungle with the Preseason changes. I don't think Vulcun can compete with that.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
December 14 2013 19:22 GMT
#708
Brace for the Jesiz fail.
Off-season = best season
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
December 14 2013 19:25 GMT
#709
dat boomerang lol
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
December 14 2013 19:25 GMT
#710
Ezreal so close to getting Vi's double buffs.
Zero fighting.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
December 14 2013 19:26 GMT
#711
On December 15 2013 04:19 Swords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 04:15 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:10 ManBaker wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:06 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On December 15 2013 03:59 wei2coolman wrote:
WT+xpecial should just stomp LD straight up.
Bjergsen just whipped cream on top.

WT, the tyrant of NA challenger tier inc.

TSM will win just fine. It's basically a guaranteed win.

CLG are moderate-ish favorites to win against Atn, in all honesty. This iteration of CLG may actually fulfill its POTENTIAL. just abit maybe.

Fnatic slight favorites against C9 (60-40 Fnatic, probably, or 55-45), depends. No one knows yet how much actually having practice time will have for Fnatic and C9 (neither got any major practice time at Cologne). Smart money is on Fnatic, but don't be surprised if C9 actually pulls through.

GG moderate favorites against XD.GG (FK that name, so much, gawd); it's entirely possible ex-Vulcun ends up not throwing the early game lead they'll most likely accrue. But throw-bargains (and lack of coordinated shotcalling) are so good. Probably 70-30.


TSM's win is just as much guaranteed as Gambit's win is, Vulcun is way below 30% odds against them, even if Alex started playing again yesterday after being sick for so long, it still won't matter.

Vulcun is always a wild card, so I wouldn't count them out quite yet.

TSM's playing against a mish-mashed team of random soloQ players without competitive experience, whose support was a top lane main (and apparently now loses his games as support). Vulcun is at least an established team. I think you're really underestimating Vulcun here.


I disagree, but not because Vulcun is a bad team or anything. Gambit just look incredible right now, I don't think many teams would have a chance against them. Edward is back and with more gold. Diamond's even stronger in the jungle with the Preseason changes. I don't think Vulcun can compete with that.


It's Gambit they do not lose to a avarage NA team.
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
December 14 2013 19:28 GMT
#712
wtf is he talking about. they traded ignite and barrier. rofl
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-14 19:28:53
December 14 2013 19:28 GMT
#713
On December 15 2013 04:26 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 04:19 Swords wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:15 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:10 ManBaker wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:06 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On December 15 2013 03:59 wei2coolman wrote:
WT+xpecial should just stomp LD straight up.
Bjergsen just whipped cream on top.

WT, the tyrant of NA challenger tier inc.

TSM will win just fine. It's basically a guaranteed win.

CLG are moderate-ish favorites to win against Atn, in all honesty. This iteration of CLG may actually fulfill its POTENTIAL. just abit maybe.

Fnatic slight favorites against C9 (60-40 Fnatic, probably, or 55-45), depends. No one knows yet how much actually having practice time will have for Fnatic and C9 (neither got any major practice time at Cologne). Smart money is on Fnatic, but don't be surprised if C9 actually pulls through.

GG moderate favorites against XD.GG (FK that name, so much, gawd); it's entirely possible ex-Vulcun ends up not throwing the early game lead they'll most likely accrue. But throw-bargains (and lack of coordinated shotcalling) are so good. Probably 70-30.


TSM's win is just as much guaranteed as Gambit's win is, Vulcun is way below 30% odds against them, even if Alex started playing again yesterday after being sick for so long, it still won't matter.

Vulcun is always a wild card, so I wouldn't count them out quite yet.

TSM's playing against a mish-mashed team of random soloQ players without competitive experience, whose support was a top lane main (and apparently now loses his games as support). Vulcun is at least an established team. I think you're really underestimating Vulcun here.


I disagree, but not because Vulcun is a bad team or anything. Gambit just look incredible right now, I don't think many teams would have a chance against them. Edward is back and with more gold. Diamond's even stronger in the jungle with the Preseason changes. I don't think Vulcun can compete with that.


It's Gambit they do not lose to a avarage NA team.

They almost did at Worlds.

Then Vulcun with the greatest baron throw of all teim.


I would like this to be a wakeup call for Dig, but eh.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
December 14 2013 19:29 GMT
#714
On December 15 2013 04:28 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 04:26 Lysanias wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:19 Swords wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:15 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:10 ManBaker wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:06 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On December 15 2013 03:59 wei2coolman wrote:
WT+xpecial should just stomp LD straight up.
Bjergsen just whipped cream on top.

WT, the tyrant of NA challenger tier inc.

TSM will win just fine. It's basically a guaranteed win.

CLG are moderate-ish favorites to win against Atn, in all honesty. This iteration of CLG may actually fulfill its POTENTIAL. just abit maybe.

Fnatic slight favorites against C9 (60-40 Fnatic, probably, or 55-45), depends. No one knows yet how much actually having practice time will have for Fnatic and C9 (neither got any major practice time at Cologne). Smart money is on Fnatic, but don't be surprised if C9 actually pulls through.

GG moderate favorites against XD.GG (FK that name, so much, gawd); it's entirely possible ex-Vulcun ends up not throwing the early game lead they'll most likely accrue. But throw-bargains (and lack of coordinated shotcalling) are so good. Probably 70-30.


TSM's win is just as much guaranteed as Gambit's win is, Vulcun is way below 30% odds against them, even if Alex started playing again yesterday after being sick for so long, it still won't matter.

Vulcun is always a wild card, so I wouldn't count them out quite yet.

TSM's playing against a mish-mashed team of random soloQ players without competitive experience, whose support was a top lane main (and apparently now loses his games as support). Vulcun is at least an established team. I think you're really underestimating Vulcun here.


I disagree, but not because Vulcun is a bad team or anything. Gambit just look incredible right now, I don't think many teams would have a chance against them. Edward is back and with more gold. Diamond's even stronger in the jungle with the Preseason changes. I don't think Vulcun can compete with that.


It's Gambit they do not lose to a avarage NA team.

They almost did at Worlds.

Then Vulcun with the greatest baron throw of all teim.

Vulcan can win against any team, Vulcan Throwbargains can't.
Glorious SEA doto
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
December 14 2013 19:30 GMT
#715
On December 15 2013 04:28 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 04:26 Lysanias wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:19 Swords wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:15 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:10 ManBaker wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:06 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On December 15 2013 03:59 wei2coolman wrote:
WT+xpecial should just stomp LD straight up.
Bjergsen just whipped cream on top.

WT, the tyrant of NA challenger tier inc.

TSM will win just fine. It's basically a guaranteed win.

CLG are moderate-ish favorites to win against Atn, in all honesty. This iteration of CLG may actually fulfill its POTENTIAL. just abit maybe.

Fnatic slight favorites against C9 (60-40 Fnatic, probably, or 55-45), depends. No one knows yet how much actually having practice time will have for Fnatic and C9 (neither got any major practice time at Cologne). Smart money is on Fnatic, but don't be surprised if C9 actually pulls through.

GG moderate favorites against XD.GG (FK that name, so much, gawd); it's entirely possible ex-Vulcun ends up not throwing the early game lead they'll most likely accrue. But throw-bargains (and lack of coordinated shotcalling) are so good. Probably 70-30.


TSM's win is just as much guaranteed as Gambit's win is, Vulcun is way below 30% odds against them, even if Alex started playing again yesterday after being sick for so long, it still won't matter.

Vulcun is always a wild card, so I wouldn't count them out quite yet.

TSM's playing against a mish-mashed team of random soloQ players without competitive experience, whose support was a top lane main (and apparently now loses his games as support). Vulcun is at least an established team. I think you're really underestimating Vulcun here.


I disagree, but not because Vulcun is a bad team or anything. Gambit just look incredible right now, I don't think many teams would have a chance against them. Edward is back and with more gold. Diamond's even stronger in the jungle with the Preseason changes. I don't think Vulcun can compete with that.


It's Gambit they do not lose to a avarage NA team.

They almost did at Worlds.

Then Vulcun with the greatest baron throw of all teim.


I would like this to be a wakeup call for Dig, but eh.


Wich means Vulcan simply isn't that good when you throw like that, gambit will eat them again.
Worldclass teams do not throw.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-14 19:31:52
December 14 2013 19:31 GMT
#716
sick crescendo.
On December 15 2013 04:30 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 04:28 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:26 Lysanias wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:19 Swords wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:15 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:10 ManBaker wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:06 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On December 15 2013 03:59 wei2coolman wrote:
WT+xpecial should just stomp LD straight up.
Bjergsen just whipped cream on top.

WT, the tyrant of NA challenger tier inc.

TSM will win just fine. It's basically a guaranteed win.

CLG are moderate-ish favorites to win against Atn, in all honesty. This iteration of CLG may actually fulfill its POTENTIAL. just abit maybe.

Fnatic slight favorites against C9 (60-40 Fnatic, probably, or 55-45), depends. No one knows yet how much actually having practice time will have for Fnatic and C9 (neither got any major practice time at Cologne). Smart money is on Fnatic, but don't be surprised if C9 actually pulls through.

GG moderate favorites against XD.GG (FK that name, so much, gawd); it's entirely possible ex-Vulcun ends up not throwing the early game lead they'll most likely accrue. But throw-bargains (and lack of coordinated shotcalling) are so good. Probably 70-30.


TSM's win is just as much guaranteed as Gambit's win is, Vulcun is way below 30% odds against them, even if Alex started playing again yesterday after being sick for so long, it still won't matter.

Vulcun is always a wild card, so I wouldn't count them out quite yet.

TSM's playing against a mish-mashed team of random soloQ players without competitive experience, whose support was a top lane main (and apparently now loses his games as support). Vulcun is at least an established team. I think you're really underestimating Vulcun here.


I disagree, but not because Vulcun is a bad team or anything. Gambit just look incredible right now, I don't think many teams would have a chance against them. Edward is back and with more gold. Diamond's even stronger in the jungle with the Preseason changes. I don't think Vulcun can compete with that.


It's Gambit they do not lose to a avarage NA team.

They almost did at Worlds.

Then Vulcun with the greatest baron throw of all teim.


I would like this to be a wakeup call for Dig, but eh.


Wich means Vulcan simply isn't that good when you throw like that, gambit will eat them again.
Worldclass teams do not throw.

that is a lie. everyone throws.
liftlift > tsm
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
December 14 2013 19:31 GMT
#717
wow nice sona/ez combo
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
December 14 2013 19:32 GMT
#718
On December 15 2013 04:31 wei2coolman wrote:
sick crescendo.
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 04:30 Lysanias wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:28 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:26 Lysanias wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:19 Swords wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:15 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:10 ManBaker wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:06 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On December 15 2013 03:59 wei2coolman wrote:
WT+xpecial should just stomp LD straight up.
Bjergsen just whipped cream on top.

WT, the tyrant of NA challenger tier inc.

TSM will win just fine. It's basically a guaranteed win.

CLG are moderate-ish favorites to win against Atn, in all honesty. This iteration of CLG may actually fulfill its POTENTIAL. just abit maybe.

Fnatic slight favorites against C9 (60-40 Fnatic, probably, or 55-45), depends. No one knows yet how much actually having practice time will have for Fnatic and C9 (neither got any major practice time at Cologne). Smart money is on Fnatic, but don't be surprised if C9 actually pulls through.

GG moderate favorites against XD.GG (FK that name, so much, gawd); it's entirely possible ex-Vulcun ends up not throwing the early game lead they'll most likely accrue. But throw-bargains (and lack of coordinated shotcalling) are so good. Probably 70-30.


TSM's win is just as much guaranteed as Gambit's win is, Vulcun is way below 30% odds against them, even if Alex started playing again yesterday after being sick for so long, it still won't matter.

Vulcun is always a wild card, so I wouldn't count them out quite yet.

TSM's playing against a mish-mashed team of random soloQ players without competitive experience, whose support was a top lane main (and apparently now loses his games as support). Vulcun is at least an established team. I think you're really underestimating Vulcun here.


I disagree, but not because Vulcun is a bad team or anything. Gambit just look incredible right now, I don't think many teams would have a chance against them. Edward is back and with more gold. Diamond's even stronger in the jungle with the Preseason changes. I don't think Vulcun can compete with that.


It's Gambit they do not lose to a avarage NA team.

They almost did at Worlds.

Then Vulcun with the greatest baron throw of all teim.


I would like this to be a wakeup call for Dig, but eh.


Wich means Vulcan simply isn't that good when you throw like that, gambit will eat them again.
Worldclass teams do not throw.

that is a lie. everyone throws.


Well no one throws like Vulcan.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-14 19:34:34
December 14 2013 19:32 GMT
#719
On December 15 2013 04:32 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2013 04:31 wei2coolman wrote:
sick crescendo.
On December 15 2013 04:30 Lysanias wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:28 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:26 Lysanias wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:19 Swords wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:15 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:10 ManBaker wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:06 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On December 15 2013 03:59 wei2coolman wrote:
WT+xpecial should just stomp LD straight up.
Bjergsen just whipped cream on top.

WT, the tyrant of NA challenger tier inc.

TSM will win just fine. It's basically a guaranteed win.

CLG are moderate-ish favorites to win against Atn, in all honesty. This iteration of CLG may actually fulfill its POTENTIAL. just abit maybe.

Fnatic slight favorites against C9 (60-40 Fnatic, probably, or 55-45), depends. No one knows yet how much actually having practice time will have for Fnatic and C9 (neither got any major practice time at Cologne). Smart money is on Fnatic, but don't be surprised if C9 actually pulls through.

GG moderate favorites against XD.GG (FK that name, so much, gawd); it's entirely possible ex-Vulcun ends up not throwing the early game lead they'll most likely accrue. But throw-bargains (and lack of coordinated shotcalling) are so good. Probably 70-30.


TSM's win is just as much guaranteed as Gambit's win is, Vulcun is way below 30% odds against them, even if Alex started playing again yesterday after being sick for so long, it still won't matter.

Vulcun is always a wild card, so I wouldn't count them out quite yet.

TSM's playing against a mish-mashed team of random soloQ players without competitive experience, whose support was a top lane main (and apparently now loses his games as support). Vulcun is at least an established team. I think you're really underestimating Vulcun here.


I disagree, but not because Vulcun is a bad team or anything. Gambit just look incredible right now, I don't think many teams would have a chance against them. Edward is back and with more gold. Diamond's even stronger in the jungle with the Preseason changes. I don't think Vulcun can compete with that.


It's Gambit they do not lose to a avarage NA team.

They almost did at Worlds.

Then Vulcun with the greatest baron throw of all teim.


I would like this to be a wakeup call for Dig, but eh.


Wich means Vulcan simply isn't that good when you throw like that, gambit will eat them again.
Worldclass teams do not throw.

that is a lie. everyone throws.


Well no one throws like Vulcan.

They're worldclass at it though
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Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
December 14 2013 19:34 GMT
#720
On December 15 2013 04:32 Fusilero wrote:
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On December 15 2013 04:32 Lysanias wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:31 wei2coolman wrote:
sick crescendo.
On December 15 2013 04:30 Lysanias wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:28 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:26 Lysanias wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:19 Swords wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:15 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:10 ManBaker wrote:
On December 15 2013 04:06 Lord Tolkien wrote:
[quote]
WT, the tyrant of NA challenger tier inc.

TSM will win just fine. It's basically a guaranteed win.

CLG are moderate-ish favorites to win against Atn, in all honesty. This iteration of CLG may actually fulfill its POTENTIAL. just abit maybe.

Fnatic slight favorites against C9 (60-40 Fnatic, probably, or 55-45), depends. No one knows yet how much actually having practice time will have for Fnatic and C9 (neither got any major practice time at Cologne). Smart money is on Fnatic, but don't be surprised if C9 actually pulls through.

GG moderate favorites against XD.GG (FK that name, so much, gawd); it's entirely possible ex-Vulcun ends up not throwing the early game lead they'll most likely accrue. But throw-bargains (and lack of coordinated shotcalling) are so good. Probably 70-30.


TSM's win is just as much guaranteed as Gambit's win is, Vulcun is way below 30% odds against them, even if Alex started playing again yesterday after being sick for so long, it still won't matter.

Vulcun is always a wild card, so I wouldn't count them out quite yet.

TSM's playing against a mish-mashed team of random soloQ players without competitive experience, whose support was a top lane main (and apparently now loses his games as support). Vulcun is at least an established team. I think you're really underestimating Vulcun here.


I disagree, but not because Vulcun is a bad team or anything. Gambit just look incredible right now, I don't think many teams would have a chance against them. Edward is back and with more gold. Diamond's even stronger in the jungle with the Preseason changes. I don't think Vulcun can compete with that.


It's Gambit they do not lose to a avarage NA team.

They almost did at Worlds.

Then Vulcun with the greatest baron throw of all teim.


I would like this to be a wakeup call for Dig, but eh.


Wich means Vulcan simply isn't that good when you throw like that, gambit will eat them again.
Worldclass teams do not throw.

that is a lie. everyone throws.


Well no one throws like Vulcan.

They're worldclass at it though


Can't deny that, that's atleast something.
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