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red_
United States8474 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35170 Posts
On September 21 2013 18:03 UmberBane wrote: So he says Wildturtle is godly? That's quite something at least The only thing I remember reading by Asian commentators that has been negative about Turtle is that he goes ham a little too much. On September 21 2013 18:10 Broetchenholer wrote: If Reginald would retire, i could lose the anti-fan attunement for TSM. But as he does not, i am quite happy with todays results  We don't want you joining us anyway. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On September 21 2013 18:27 Itsmedudeman wrote: WildTurtle is godly. I'd have him on my all star team over doublelift any fucking day of the week. I say this as someone who didn't think wildturtle was better than double going into this tournament. Gotta give credit to xpecial though. Xpecial is the one setting shit up and the bot lane has been the only reason TSM has been making games close. Imo they've performed as the best bot lane this tournament. Puszu/Yellowstar imo. Not to take anything away from the TSM duo, they're clearly the class of that team. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35170 Posts
On September 21 2013 18:32 red_ wrote: Puszu/Yellowstar imo. Not to take anything away from the TSM duo, they're clearly the class of that team. Think of how much better they'd be if they weren't forced to carry their team in every game against the asians. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
He died to to a standard Doublebuff clear > 3min top gank and then just died again when the enemy jungler came back 1min later. I saw that shit from silver all the way up to Diamond SoloQ yo! I want that volibear passive vs Wildturtle with trick2g commentary, lovelin is a god. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35170 Posts
On September 21 2013 18:41 AsnSensation wrote: Don't understand the people arguing that Dyrus is TSM's "most consistent player" and therefore always gets "camped". He died to to a standard Doublebuff clear > 3min top gank and then just died again when the enemy jungler came back 1min later. I saw that shit from silver all the way up to Diamond SoloQ yo! I want that volibear passive vs Wildturtle with trick2g commentary, lovelin is a god. Dyrus hasn't had a good month. I don't know what's up with him. Anybody know what Salce's situation is like? I was impressed with him on TSM.Evo, but that was a year ago and there was a lot of he said he said back then. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On September 21 2013 18:42 Gahlo wrote: Dyrus hasn't had a good month. I don't know what's up with him. Anybody know what Salce's situation is like? I was impressed with him on TSM.Evo, but that was a year ago and there was a lot of he said he said back then. I think he joined curse as a sub, got into a bit of drama and ended up reforming epik gamer. After dropping out qualifiers idk what happened to him. | ||
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niukasu1990
1007 Posts
Zzitai and XIaoxiao: Twitch and annie should have lost pretty hard the lane against sons and corki, and they have help TOO for that red buff so much that they lose 2 minions experience, which made the situation even harder. Because Zed<Riven, Karthus<Jax, Twitch+Annie<Corki+Sona, They should have done a lane switch. TSM should put the duo lanes in mid, both Karthus and Zed are very good at 1V2. TSM had a stronger level 1 but they were too afraid to fight. TSM may have a chance in a 5v5 teamfight, because TSM have Karthus to counter SKT's melee Champions(Riven and Jax), but if Jax decide to split push, TSM have 0 chance because Regi is a support Zed. Zzitai and Xiaoxiao said they have never seen Regi successfully W over a wall in this game. The only chance for TSM is in 25min dragon fight because SKT gave TSM a chance to have a 5v5 team fight. however, Dyrus was too hesitated to flash in to be the front line to let Turtle do damage. Regi should sell his Pickaxe and buy wards because he was useless now. TSM should really let Regi play Karthus and give Zed to Dyrus. Regi's Zed was alway going in and doing nothing then died. Dyrus was too afraid to go in. TL;DR: it would be much easier for TSM if they switched lanes. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35170 Posts
On September 21 2013 19:00 niukasu1990 wrote: I hope that Zzitai and Xiaoxiao comments on TSM vs SKT can help TSM improved. Zzitai and XIaoxiao: Twitch and annie should have lost pretty hard the lane against sons and corki, and they have help TOO for that red buff so much that they lose 2 minions experience, which made the situation even harder. Because Zed<Riven, Karthus<Jax, Twitch+Annie<Corki+Sona, They should have done a lane switch. TSM should put the duo lanes in mid, both Karthus and Zed are very good at 1V2. TSM had a stronger level 1 but they were too afraid to fight. TSM may have a chance in a 5v5 teamfight, because TSM have Karthus to counter SKT's melee Champions(Riven and Jax), but if Jax decide to split push, TSM have 0 chance because Regi is a support Zed. Zzitai and Xiaoxiao said they have never seen Regi successfully W over a wall in this game. The only chance for TSM is in 25min dragon fight because SKT gave TSM a chance to have a 5v5 team fight. however, Dyrus was too hesitated to flash in to be the front line to let Turtle do damage. Regi should sell his Pickaxe and buy wards because he was useless now. TSM should really let Regi play Karthus and give Zed to Dyrus. Regi's Zed was alway going in and doing nothing then died. Dyrus was too afraid to go in. TL;DR: it would be much easier for TSM if they switched lanes. You mean like make Dyrus mid and Regi top? + Show Spoiler + Hue. | ||
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Lylat
France8575 Posts
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On September 21 2013 19:35 Lylat wrote: Damn, I'm really disappointed by LD performance.. I guess international experience matters Unless you're OMG or SKT? Their performance has been pretty terrible though for a team that came second place and finished 1st in the season. Seriously, I wonder how they would perform if they played gambit or fnatic right now. | ||
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UmberBane
Germany5450 Posts
On September 21 2013 18:42 Gahlo wrote: Dyrus hasn't had a good month. I don't know what's up with him. Anybody know what Salce's situation is like? I was impressed with him on TSM.Evo, but that was a year ago and there was a lot of he said he said back then. The impression that I always had of him was that he was very casual in his practice approach. Back in early S1 this was okay (the whole Epik Gamer image was like that anyway), but I don't think he could compete with today's pro gamers. It's a bit of a shame, I always liked Salce and also loved TSM Evo, but I doubt we will see him back in the professional scene. :I | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
what I noticed: After Dyrus died for the first time he bought amp tome+1 pot. Not that it would have made a difference but anyone else thinks boots+ward+pot is the better buy here? Lovelin's Doran's start on Voli deals so much dmg holy moly. | ||
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Navi
5286 Posts
cited questionable reasons but his practice approach and ethic as mentioned were quite lax | ||
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koziol
Poland768 Posts
On September 21 2013 19:35 Lylat wrote: Damn, I'm really disappointed by LD performance.. I guess international experience matters well actually they had much harder group than fnatic or gamibt and it was not unexpected they will lose to Koreans and the Chinese. Imo they did pretty good in those games but those 2 teams are just too strong. They lost to TSM too, but that game was really close and I really feel like LD underestimated TSM and made some unnessecary cocky plays + OddOne baby sitting mid snowballed it for Regi. I think LD will perform better in the future, atm i think they are the youngest team in this tournament and even though they played pretty good considering how stresful it was for them (ofc they had 'nothing to lose' attitude, but still some ppl had hopes about them advancing or atleast making some small upsets aka golem flash at lv1 vs SKT=> Swain snowball). I see them as a good team in the future, good experience for them. + today they play vs TSM for honour and for 15$ more for 9th place and will show good performance! about yestardays games and TSM: well the chinese said it all as some guy translated it I belive - one sentence sums their performance for most of the tournament: 'regi didnt do any succesful W between the wall.' or 'zed should just sell pickaxe and buy wards'. so goood. today i wanna see both EU teams advancing but considering that SSO has to play Vulcun and Mineski while Gamit has to play Vulcun and fnatic I see a tiebreaker between Koreans and Russians, cus SSO goes 2-0 (they 2x ADC was just stomp, use it more often!) and gambit should win with Vulcun and probably lose vs Fnatic. | ||
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UmberBane
Germany5450 Posts
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zXk3
Mexico1178 Posts
On September 21 2013 20:16 koziol wrote: well actually they had much harder group than fnatic or gamibt and it was not unexpected they will lose to Koreans and the Chinese. Imo they did pretty good in those games but those 2 teams are just too strong. They lost to TSM too, but that game was really close and I really feel like LD underestimated TSM and made some unnessecary cocky plays + OddOne baby sitting mid snowballed it for Regi. I think LD will perform better in the future, atm i think they are the youngest team in this tournament and even though they played pretty good considering how stresful it was for them (ofc they had 'nothing to lose' attitude, but still some ppl had hopes about them advancing or atleast making some small upsets aka golem flash at lv1 vs SKT=> Swain snowball). I see them as a good team in the future, good experience for them. + today they play vs TSM for honour and for 15$ more for 9th place and will show good performance! about yestardays games and TSM: well the chinese said it all as some guy translated it I belive - one sentence sums their performance for most of the tournament: 'regi didnt do any succesful W between the wall.' or 'zed should just sell pickaxe and buy wards'. so goood. today i wanna see both EU teams advancing but considering that SSO has to play Vulcun and Mineski while Gamit has to play Vulcun and fnatic I see a tiebreaker between Koreans and Russians, cus SSO goes 2-0 (they 2x ADC was just stomp, use it more often!) and gambit should win with Vulcun and probably lose vs Fnatic. fnatic throwing the game against gambit so SSO doesnt advance, calling it | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On September 21 2013 20:57 zXk3 wrote: fnatic throwing the game against gambit so SSO doesnt advance, calling it care to make it interesting? 1 week ban if Gambit wins. Since they are on a 0-7 losing streak vs fnatic for the last 3 or 4 months if fnatic loses it has to be a throw right? right? same stakes for the other guys who expressed the same sentiment yesterday, especially that one guy who brought it up 3 times every page. | ||
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Schwopzi
Netherlands954 Posts
On September 21 2013 21:00 AsnSensation wrote: care to make it interesting? 1 week ban if Gambit wins. Since they are on a 0-7 losing streak vs fnatic for the last 3 or 4 months if fnatic loses it has to be a throw right? right? same stakes for the other guys who expressed the same sentiment yesterday, especially that one guy who brought it up 3 times every page. Fnatic can, from their persepective if they win 1st game, just experiment and try stuff out against gambit. Having the freedom to lose a game gives such a brilliant opportunity to test an uncertain strategy. But that'll just become fuel for the drama queens. Bit sad tbh. | ||
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