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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On September 16 2013 15:42 oneofthem wrote: well, on the positive side, dade won't pick ryze again in this tournament I would be very surprised if their coach doesn't give them a ton of shit for their showing tonight. Getting 5k behind Vulcun. Losing to Gambit. Ozone is supposed to be one of the favorites to win the whole thing but they just looked bad tonight. I'm willing to entertain the idea that maybe they underestimated their opponents. Maybe they're just having jitters/playing off or have jet lag or something. But if the rest of groups starts looking like this I think we could safely conclude that either Ozone was overrated or Korea's skill level was wildly exaggerated. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On September 16 2013 15:37 skykh wrote: Faker:Ambition is best midlaner lorea Maybe back in ogn spring. I think DL was right on about dade. The fact that he's still playing the super gimped ryze says a lot about his champ pool. | ||
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lilwisper
United States2515 Posts
On September 16 2013 15:45 billy5000 wrote: Fair enough. Regardless, the lack of respect still holds true. Not knowing a custom isn't a lack of respect. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On September 16 2013 15:44 Scip wrote: Done an analysis of the game on ts3 but why not repeat it here GG places no wards lvl1, which is pretty curious. Dendy then goes and camps top for like 90 seconds as if to countergank even though it shoulda been kinda obvious that Diamond is not gonna gank there because of the 0 ward business. Unless he tried to call the doublebluff, but w/e. Diamond farms, which is why he is so good. Dendy tries to countergank middle, but has level disadvantage because he's done fall all game. Level advantage > element of surprise. Snowball AKA: Gambit Meteos'd Ozone. | ||
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
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Complete
United States1864 Posts
but wtf is with this "disrespect" accusations towards the korean team that lost? From what I understand this is a big tournament that has the biggest prize pool of the year that everybody wants to win, do you guys really think they're picking things that are bad on purpose to disrespect the enemy? doesn't make any sense to me. | ||
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Navi
5286 Posts
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imBLIND
United States2626 Posts
edit: im stupid. | ||
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Vanka
China1336 Posts
Also darien deserves some respect, it's so easy to just whiff taunt right away and vayne easily tumbling out of it but darien when he was chasing imp down was so patient on the taunt and so on point with them so that he actually did kill imp's slippery vayne, it was impressive. | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9208 Posts
On September 16 2013 15:44 ketchup wrote: Did you not see the Mineski game where they couldn't end it? It took them around 20 more minutes to end a game when it was done at the 15-20 min mark. I did see it, they fooled around after reaching the nexus. It wasn't relevant at all to their chances in this group. I'd say they're very close to Gambit's level and people are severely underestimating them based on today. But it happens at every tournament, people draw crazy conclusions from day 1 Bo1s and then change them as it goes along. They have better chances at top 2 in Group B than LD or TSM have in Group A. | ||
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cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
On September 16 2013 15:44 Navi wrote: i'd say the two are comparable. but i'd favor dandy over bengi for certain, homme has matched up decently vs impact in the past, and now looper seems quite impressive (from his singed play lolol). they can make certain skirmish comps (such as comps that would be otherwise fatally affected by massive aoe) work by the sheer mechanical skills of things such as dandy's elise rappels, etc. that I have yet to see any other team do. i'm a madlife fan too, but you would be ignorant to call him straight up on a higher level than mata. madlife perhaps has more playmaking sense, but mata has come up just as clutch quite often and tends to use flash better defensively. Yeah I edited my post. I rate mata higher as a support actually, but just not mechanically wise. | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
You mean Meteos Diamondprox'd NA? Give some respect. Gambit are the "Dark Horse" because they jack themselves off for EU LCS and All Stars because like Ozone they have no respect. But in Big Time LAN like the strong CIS LAN tradition, they bootcamp and come out for serious business. | ||
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Vonthin
United States2864 Posts
On September 16 2013 15:48 Complete wrote: also another question, I'll again mention this is my first time watching pro LoL so maybe I don't know the community well enough but wtf is with this "disrespect" accusations towards the korean team that lost? From what I understand this is a big tournament that has the biggest prize pool of the year that everybody wants to win, do you guys really think they're picking things that are bad on purpose to disrespect the enemy? doesn't make any sense to me. its people being stupid, in the us/eu its custom for the winner to go shake the losers hand, they don't do that in Korea. After that game the handshake happened and Dade wasn't paying attention/didn't know what was going on so he didn't shake hands with 4 of the members of GG, when he did realize whats going on he got up and shook the closest persons hand and then bowed which people didn't fucking see because they were already making butthurt comments on forums. | ||
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lilwisper
United States2515 Posts
On September 16 2013 15:48 Complete wrote: also another question, I'll again mention this is my first time watching pro LoL so maybe I don't know the community well enough but wtf is with this "disrespect" accusations towards the korean team that lost? From what I understand this is a big tournament that has the biggest prize pool of the year that everybody wants to win, do you guys really think they're picking things that are bad on purpose to disrespect the enemy? doesn't make any sense to me. It's people blowing the whole hand shake at the end out of proportion. Korea isn't used to hand shakes where as NA/EU both do so. Once some one told them of it they shook hands and even bowed. | ||
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Pantagruel
United States1427 Posts
Really fantastic day 1 though, some really quality games led by OMG vs SKT, competitive standings, great analysis desk and no major hiccups in terms of production. I can't wait for the rest of the tournament. | ||
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billy5000
United States865 Posts
On September 16 2013 15:47 lilwisper wrote: Not knowing a custom isn't a lack of respect. I meant in-game. If you haven't watched their 2 games, they rarely ever stopped to think twice. Always over-committing themselves from the start. | ||
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cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
On September 16 2013 15:49 Vanka wrote: Whatever the build was, the kogmaw pick I felt was extremely intelligent, considering that kogmaw hasn't had a ton of competitive play lately I think ozone was really caught off-guard by what kog maw does, and that is kill everything ever in seconds. The tri-force, whatever it does, did win genja lane by a big margin, and if you told me before worlds that genja voidle would maintain a 10+ cs lead on imp and mata I wouldn't have believed you. Also darien deserves some respect, it's so easy to just whiff taunt right away and vayne easily tumbling out of it but darien when he was chasing imp down was so patient on the taunt and so on point with them so that he actually did kill imp's slippery vayne, it was impressive. Kogmaw triforce isn't bad, and kogmaw triforce certainly does have huge presence in lane. Genja's builds are overrated, but credit to genja for adapting, and this one isn't half-bad. Don't listen to lift who is shit. | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
On September 16 2013 15:48 Complete wrote: but wtf is with this "disrespect" accusations towards the korean team that lost? From what I understand this is a big tournament that has the biggest prize pool of the year that everybody wants to win, do you guys really think they're picking things that are bad on purpose to disrespect the enemy? doesn't make any sense to me. dade might have just been completely broken But Mata aggressively flashed for a kill op that in a best case scenario would've traded support kill on support for support kill on AD. I've never see that kind of low reward high risk in OGN, especially in the top teams. Sometimes you'll get high-risk, high-reward in skewed matchups but that is to be expected. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On September 16 2013 15:50 Vonthin wrote: its people being stupid, in the us/eu its custom for the winner to go shake the losers hand, they don't do that in Korea. After that game the handshake happened and Dade wasn't paying attention/didn't know what was going on so he didn't shake hands with 4 of the members of GG, when he did realize whats going on he got up and shook the closest persons hand and then bowed which people didn't fucking see because they were already making butthurt comments on forums. He's talking how ozone nit showing respect to their opponents by not playing well. Imo ozone prolly let their ego get to their head. They played sloppy and took risks they shouldn't have. | ||
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