EPT[CN] S3 Regional Finals - Page 22
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21243 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On September 09 2013 01:06 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: yay what i hoped for came true Order too? Don't lie. | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21243 Posts
yes? ask znf i was talking with him last night, is aid i wanted royal in quarters directly so they can gay someone with fizz annie cause no one is gonna actually research them cuz they'll be too busy trying to get out of groups huehue also i said royal is less stable and might have a harder time in groups vs a variety of styles, whereas i think omg will cruise | ||
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UmberBane
Germany5450 Posts
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1oo
Portugal876 Posts
edit: nvm i found, thank you either way. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
They'll be on this page later today. | ||
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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
On September 09 2013 01:19 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: yes? ask znf i was talking with him last night, is aid i wanted royal in quarters directly so they can gay someone with fizz annie cause no one is gonna actually research them cuz they'll be too busy trying to get out of groups huehue also i said royal is less stable and might have a harder time in groups vs a variety of styles, whereas i think omg will cruise Yeah. I was pretty sure csheep was fanboi'ing when he found out that what he wanted came true. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
On September 09 2013 00:01 Headshot wrote: All of this TSM hate is pretty funny. Most likely every NA/Euro team will get rolled equally, but we'll see. I'm really hoping that Gambit gets destroyed because they're the team with the most undeserved hype going into worlds. They aren't M5 anymore, folks. Alex Ich and Diamondprox are still on that team. I'll still root for Gambit as long as that's the case.  I also think C9 has more undeserved hype, but w/e that's just me | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9118 Posts
On September 09 2013 03:21 oneofthem wrote: how are the quarterfinal matchups determined? They didn't say yet. But I wouldn't be surprised if they based it off the All-star since they have absolutely no other objective criteria. So I assume Sword/Royal vs 2nd place in each group and C9/Gamania vs 1st place. | ||
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Headshot
United States1656 Posts
On September 09 2013 03:22 Zergneedsfood wrote: Alex Ich and Diamondprox are still on that team. I'll still root for Gambit as long as that's the case. I also think C9 has more undeserved hype, but w/e that's just me It's probably just the Reddit Gambit circle-jerk getting to me, but GG will be very lucky to make it out of group stages. Their bottom lane and top lane are nowhere near world-class. I'm not sure how much weight Alex and Diamond can bear. And I would agree with you that C9 is a bit overhyped, but you can't really blame people. They are the best team to ever come out of NA and our only hope to make a splash at Worlds. That being said, they have zero international experience, so it will be a tossup. The constant NA bashing on TL/Reddit gets old, though. I'd love to see C9 mutilate any Euro team to shut up the pretentious masses. /rant | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Even Gambit/M5 has this reputation of "lose to everyone online, beat everyone on LAN". | ||
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On September 09 2013 05:06 TheYango wrote: Gambit's chances are basically riding on the fact that they are a Russian team, and Russian teams are notorious for showing 150% of their regular season performance at big LANs where everything is on the line. Even Gambit/M5 has this reputation of "lose to everyone online, beat everyone on LAN". *cough* Na'Vi *cough*. I do think the anti-NA jerk is sometimes a bit undeserved, but then again, TSM has never won against KR teams, most of the big EU teams have. CLG.eu even had a good run in OGN, unlike CLG.na. And People don't have much faith in C9 because they are untested, just like people don't have all that much faith in LemonDogs to do well. EU is putting their money on Gambit/Fnatic (which might backfire horribly) and NA doesn't really have a team that has performed really well internationally and has a lot of big LAN experience. Yeah, TSM used to rule the world, but ever since they got dethroned by the Koreans they haven't been doing great. They have problems against the top teams (even EU teams) ever since S2 qualifiers. It also doesn't really help that there are so few intercontinental tournaments. Now that LCS is going on, stuff like IPL 5 is dead which imo is a shame. One intercontinental tournament a year is not enough. | ||
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Pantagruel
United States1427 Posts
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On September 09 2013 06:49 Pantagruel wrote: I personally think EU is weaker then NA at the moment so I don't really understand all the hate. I feel like NA has one truly high quality team in c9 and EU has none. I'd rate Vulcun and Lemondogs pretty similarly as solid teams but with no hope of actually competing at worlds after the group stage. Gambit/Fnatic/TSM I'd also rate relatively similarly and even though they are experienced LAN teams I don't think they will accomplish much at worlds ( I'd only give Fnatic an outside shot of beating a team after the group stage). As for all the middling teams from these regions that didn't make worlds, I don't rate one region any higher then the other. I don't think EG is any better then Dig/CLG or NiP any better then Curse. The only difference is that c9 is a genuinely good team, and the only one in both regions. What makes you think that C9 is a genuinely good team and the only one in both regions, and not that the other NA teams are just a lot worse than C9 and EU? C9 had 3 losses in LCS, 2 Vulcun, 1 CLG. I'm not saying this is necessarily true, it's just another possibility. C9 dominated the NA scene, which should indicate that either C9 is massively better than the rest of NA/EU, or the rest of NA is far worse than EU which would mean C9 is at the same level as high teams in EU. This plus the history from the latest intercontinental clashes (IPL 5, S2) is heavily biased against NA. Yes, it's long ago. But it's the only data we have. Anyway, for the NA teams I am rooting for C9 to do well. I really hope they can make a dent in the Asian domination. Meteos vs Diamond is a matchup I still really want to see. We'll see in a week how things will go, first match of the tournament is TSM vs GamingGear, giving us a good indication of NA vs EU. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
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HorsemasterK
United States606 Posts
On September 09 2013 07:03 Doctorbeat wrote: What makes you think that C9 is a genuinely good team and the only one in both regions, and not that the other NA teams are just a lot worse than C9 and EU? C9 had 3 losses in LCS, 2 Vulcun, 1 CLG. I'm not saying this is necessarily true, it's just another possibility. C9 dominated the NA scene, which should indicate that either C9 is massively better than the rest of NA/EU, or the rest of NA is far worse than EU which would mean C9 is at the same level as high teams in EU. This plus the history from the latest intercontinental clashes (IPL 5, S2) is heavily biased against NA. Yes, it's long ago. But it's the only data we have. Anyway, for the NA teams I am rooting for C9 to do well. I really hope they can make a dent in the Asian domination. Meteos vs Diamond is a matchup I still really want to see. We'll see in a week how things will go, first match of the tournament is TSM vs GamingGear, giving us a good indication of NA vs EU. I thought the latest data was Allstars. Neither team was a real team, but it was supposedly the best players from NA vs the best from EU. | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9118 Posts
On September 09 2013 07:03 Doctorbeat wrote: We'll see in a week how things will go, first match of the tournament is TSM vs GamingGear, giving us a good indication of NA vs EU. 2nd best NA team vs ~15th best EU team won't give us a good indication | ||
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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
On September 09 2013 07:35 Dan HH wrote: 2nd best NA team vs ~15th best EU team won't give us a good indication I think it will. I am rooting for Gaming Gear. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 09 2013 07:10 HorsemasterK wrote: I thought the latest data was Allstars. Neither team was a real team, but it was supposedly the best players from NA vs the best from EU. Go figure EU is going to have problems when 3/5 of their players don't normally communicate in English when playing with their regular team. EU placing last should not have been a surprise to anyone irrespective of the skill of the players involved solely based on the language issue, tbh. | ||
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