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On August 17 2013 01:37 nxk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 01:36 BlackMagister wrote: How the heck is it pushing to the ad/support in bot lane? Doesn't the lane push naturally simply by the AD carry last hitting? Not sure how the initial push happened, but now Genja is keeping extra purple ranged creeps alive, so that the lane stays near his tower even with him last hitting
I'm sure we all know how to freeze a lane if it's pushing towards you, but it WASN'T pushing. Kevin got ignited at the blue and almost died, and had to base. He got back, was zoned, and never got remotely close to his own wave, despite no SK ever being in that lane. That's why he was level 1 with 0 cs and taking his own wolves.
I don't know how GMB did it but it's a pretty big deal if you can freeze a wave that badly while cs'ing perfectly.
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On August 17 2013 01:43 Sandster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 01:37 nxk wrote:On August 17 2013 01:36 BlackMagister wrote: How the heck is it pushing to the ad/support in bot lane? Doesn't the lane push naturally simply by the AD carry last hitting? Not sure how the initial push happened, but now Genja is keeping extra purple ranged creeps alive, so that the lane stays near his tower even with him last hitting I'm sure we all know how to freeze a lane if it's pushing towards you, but it WASN'T pushing. Kevin got ignited at the blue and almost died, and had to base. He got back, was zoned, and never got remotely close to his own wave, despite no SK ever being in that lane. That's why he was level 1 with 0 cs and taking his own wolves. Are you sure it didn't push close enough to the tower for the tower to kill like the melee minions which would enable a freeze?
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On August 17 2013 01:43 Sandster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 01:37 nxk wrote:On August 17 2013 01:36 BlackMagister wrote: How the heck is it pushing to the ad/support in bot lane? Doesn't the lane push naturally simply by the AD carry last hitting? Not sure how the initial push happened, but now Genja is keeping extra purple ranged creeps alive, so that the lane stays near his tower even with him last hitting I'm sure we all know how to freeze a lane if it's pushing towards you, but it WASN'T pushing. Kevin got ignited at the blue and almost died, and had to base. He got back, was zoned, and never got remotely close to his own wave, despite no SK ever being in that lane. That's why he was level 1 with 0 cs and taking his own wolves. I don't know how GMB did it but it's a pretty big deal if you can freeze a wave that badly while cs'ing perfectly.
It's the rng.Sometimes lanes just naturally push for absolutely no reason at all.And gambit abused it well.
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On August 17 2013 01:39 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 01:31 AsnSensation wrote:On August 17 2013 01:28 Fusilero wrote: Hey look, zyra/ashe/lee/zed it's like SK have just decided they're gonna be cloud9 i give you ashe/zyra but lee and zed really? either way I'm not too optimistic about Ocelote on Zed vs Alex on Kayle who is a magnificent Zed player. Hai plays a beastly Zed, best in NA.
Yes and Dade is probably best Zed in the world. I'm just saying that picking zed and lee, two of the most popular picks around the globe right, now doesn't mean they are copying c9. Lee is not even Meteos' signature champ, rather his "last resort" if he can't pick zac and Nasus.
Ashe/Zyra is obviously c9 inspired.
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On August 17 2013 01:44 nafta wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 01:43 Sandster wrote:On August 17 2013 01:37 nxk wrote:On August 17 2013 01:36 BlackMagister wrote: How the heck is it pushing to the ad/support in bot lane? Doesn't the lane push naturally simply by the AD carry last hitting? Not sure how the initial push happened, but now Genja is keeping extra purple ranged creeps alive, so that the lane stays near his tower even with him last hitting I'm sure we all know how to freeze a lane if it's pushing towards you, but it WASN'T pushing. Kevin got ignited at the blue and almost died, and had to base. He got back, was zoned, and never got remotely close to his own wave, despite no SK ever being in that lane. That's why he was level 1 with 0 cs and taking his own wolves. I don't know how GMB did it but it's a pretty big deal if you can freeze a wave that badly while cs'ing perfectly. It's the rng.Sometimes lanes just naturally push for absolutely no reason at all.And gambit abused it well. You need to miss like the 12 first lasthits entirely for that to happen and they didn't do that
On August 17 2013 01:44 AsnSensation wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 01:39 onlywonderboy wrote:On August 17 2013 01:31 AsnSensation wrote:On August 17 2013 01:28 Fusilero wrote: Hey look, zyra/ashe/lee/zed it's like SK have just decided they're gonna be cloud9 i give you ashe/zyra but lee and zed really? either way I'm not too optimistic about Ocelote on Zed vs Alex on Kayle who is a magnificent Zed player. Hai plays a beastly Zed, best in NA. Yes and Dade is probably best Zed in the world. I'm just saying that picking zed and lee, two of the most popular picks around the globe right, now doesn't mean they are copying c9. Lee is not even Meteos' signature champ, rather his "last resort" if he can't pick zac and Nasus. Ashe/Zyra is obviously c9 inspired. ? Lee is his signature champ
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On August 17 2013 01:43 Shikyo wrote:27 vs 97 minions .... Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 01:43 Sandster wrote:On August 17 2013 01:37 nxk wrote:On August 17 2013 01:36 BlackMagister wrote: How the heck is it pushing to the ad/support in bot lane? Doesn't the lane push naturally simply by the AD carry last hitting? Not sure how the initial push happened, but now Genja is keeping extra purple ranged creeps alive, so that the lane stays near his tower even with him last hitting I'm sure we all know how to freeze a lane if it's pushing towards you, but it WASN'T pushing. Kevin got ignited at the blue and almost died, and had to base. He got back, was zoned, and never got remotely close to his own wave, despite no SK ever being in that lane. That's why he was level 1 with 0 cs and taking his own wolves. Are you sure it didn't push close enough to the tower for the tower to kill like the melee minions which would enable a freeze?
Yeah, the only thing I can think of is they shoved wave to tower before Kevin got into lane while a wave was piling up.
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On August 17 2013 01:44 AsnSensation wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 01:39 onlywonderboy wrote:On August 17 2013 01:31 AsnSensation wrote:On August 17 2013 01:28 Fusilero wrote: Hey look, zyra/ashe/lee/zed it's like SK have just decided they're gonna be cloud9 i give you ashe/zyra but lee and zed really? either way I'm not too optimistic about Ocelote on Zed vs Alex on Kayle who is a magnificent Zed player. Hai plays a beastly Zed, best in NA. Yes and Dade is probably best Zed in the world. I'm just saying that picking zed and lee, two of the most popular picks around the globe right, now doesn't mean they are copying c9. Lee is not even Meteos' signature champ, rather his "last resort" if he can't pick zac and Nasus. Ashe/Zyra is obviously c9 inspired. Point taken. I wasn't gonna defend the Lee comment, I always see Zac as his signature champ.
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Lee is definitely not Meteos signature hero. plz...
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Nice flash over the arrow by Genja.
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Why the hell did Ocelote not ult Diamondprox there -________-
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On August 17 2013 01:47 NeoIllusions wrote: Lee is definitely not Meteos signature hero. plz... Lol of course he is. Like Irelia is totally Ballz.
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On August 17 2013 01:47 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 01:47 NeoIllusions wrote: Lee is definitely not Meteos signature hero. plz... Lol of course he is. Like Irelia is totally Ballz.
Zed is absolutely Scarra though
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On August 17 2013 01:47 Haasts wrote: Nice flash over the arrow by Genja. Yea that flash was so sick. If dl did this everybody would gone mad, but now its quiet .
Go GENJA!
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Gambit stomptrain keeps rolling, bootcamp op! (unless FNC+ATN haha)
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okay, even as an admitted EG fanboy I must say that Gambit deserves 2nd place. Their super week has been exceptional.
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Lets hope we get an other Happy birthday from Alex Ich!
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man they got raped.. smart plays in the beginning
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I was really impressed by ocelote's 1v3 escape, but that's about all I can say in defense of SK. That game was brutal.
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On August 17 2013 01:45 Sandster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 01:43 Shikyo wrote:27 vs 97 minions .... On August 17 2013 01:43 Sandster wrote:On August 17 2013 01:37 nxk wrote:On August 17 2013 01:36 BlackMagister wrote: How the heck is it pushing to the ad/support in bot lane? Doesn't the lane push naturally simply by the AD carry last hitting? Not sure how the initial push happened, but now Genja is keeping extra purple ranged creeps alive, so that the lane stays near his tower even with him last hitting I'm sure we all know how to freeze a lane if it's pushing towards you, but it WASN'T pushing. Kevin got ignited at the blue and almost died, and had to base. He got back, was zoned, and never got remotely close to his own wave, despite no SK ever being in that lane. That's why he was level 1 with 0 cs and taking his own wolves. Are you sure it didn't push close enough to the tower for the tower to kill like the melee minions which would enable a freeze? Yeah, the only thing I can think of is they shoved wave to tower before Kevin got into lane while a wave was piling up.
There was also a point where Kevin was down 5 levels and couldn't even approach the minions in top lane.
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