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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
August 23 2013 10:57 GMT
#4741
Let Homme walk straight into the backline lol
Liquipedia"Expert"
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
August 23 2013 10:57 GMT
#4742
Nasus is really carrying this game hard. He negates the impact of twitch all while tanking everything.
The legend of Darien lives on
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
August 23 2013 10:57 GMT
#4743
Homme's assists man. Homme for support!

Lol dade's KDA
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
August 23 2013 10:57 GMT
#4744
I don't get SKT's comp. I don't get Twitch when Piglet is 20-2 on Vayne/Caitlyn. I don't get making Faker play Karthus when it failed last semifinals.

Just stahp.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
August 23 2013 10:57 GMT
#4745
On August 23 2013 19:55 partydude89 wrote:
forgive me if this is s a stupid question, i'm really new to League. but it seems like these mid game teams always beat late game teams, why don't all teams try mid game stuff?


This isn't entirely true. The mid-game comp has to apply the right type of pressure to make sure they come out on top and finish the game. If the game really does go late enough, SKTT1 definitely has a good chance. It just so happens that Korean teams are really strong at that mid-game pressure. Watch some of the other regions, and you will notice some teams giving up leads that they shouldn't have. This is mostly due to the lack of pressure applied by the early winning team.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
August 23 2013 10:58 GMT
#4746
Homme aka Dora the Dog explorer, but actually turns it around and just /laugh while destroying the backline
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
August 23 2013 10:59 GMT
#4747
There's no way to see Nasus's Q damage as a spectator is there? Homme seems to be doing damage with it at the moment
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
August 23 2013 10:59 GMT
#4748
Were are those SKT fanboys now?
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 11:00:05
August 23 2013 10:59 GMT
#4749
On August 23 2013 19:57 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 19:55 partydude89 wrote:
forgive me if this is s a stupid question, i'm really new to League. but it seems like these mid game teams always beat late game teams, why don't all teams try mid game stuff?


This isn't entirely true. The mid-game comp has to apply the right type of pressure to make sure they come out on top and finish the game. If the game really does go late enough, SKTT1 definitely has a good chance. It just so happens that Korean teams are really strong at that mid-game pressure. Watch some of the other regions, and you will notice some teams giving up leads that they shouldn't have. This is mostly due to the lack of pressure applied by the early winning team.

Most korean teams highly prefer early/mid game comps over late game. Singed was a terrible pick here. I think it'd have gone okay with a better top laner who didn't pull his jungler away so much which isn't entirely necessary in 3.10.

I consider karthus pretty solid at all stages of the game except early where he'll most likely just go even.
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
August 23 2013 11:00 GMT
#4750
On August 23 2013 19:59 Chexx wrote:
Were are those SKT fanboys now?


Here! Crying
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
August 23 2013 11:00 GMT
#4751
On August 23 2013 19:57 Fionn wrote:
I don't get SKT's comp. I don't get Twitch when Piglet is 20-2 on Vayne/Caitlyn. I don't get making Faker play Karthus when it failed last semifinals.

Just stahp.


Against world-class botlanes, picking Vayne into Cait is suicide imo
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partydude89
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1850 Posts
August 23 2013 11:00 GMT
#4752
On August 23 2013 19:57 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 19:55 partydude89 wrote:
forgive me if this is s a stupid question, i'm really new to League. but it seems like these mid game teams always beat late game teams, why don't all teams try mid game stuff?


This isn't entirely true. The mid-game comp has to apply the right type of pressure to make sure they come out on top and finish the game. If the game really does go late enough, SKTT1 definitely has a good chance. It just so happens that Korean teams are really strong at that mid-game pressure. Watch some of the other regions, and you will notice some teams giving up leads that they shouldn't have. This is mostly due to the lack of pressure applied by the early winning team.


but it seems like it's so easy to do mid game damage. hmm. time to watch some more league.
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XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
August 23 2013 11:01 GMT
#4753
Jarvan helping.
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 11:05:21
August 23 2013 11:01 GMT
#4754
On August 23 2013 19:59 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 19:57 ketchup wrote:
On August 23 2013 19:55 partydude89 wrote:
forgive me if this is s a stupid question, i'm really new to League. but it seems like these mid game teams always beat late game teams, why don't all teams try mid game stuff?


This isn't entirely true. The mid-game comp has to apply the right type of pressure to make sure they come out on top and finish the game. If the game really does go late enough, SKTT1 definitely has a good chance. It just so happens that Korean teams are really strong at that mid-game pressure. Watch some of the other regions, and you will notice some teams giving up leads that they shouldn't have. This is mostly due to the lack of pressure applied by the early winning team.

Most korean teams highly prefer early/mid game comps over late game. Singed was a terrible pick here. I think it'd have gone okay with a better top laner who didn't pull his jungler away so much which isn't entirely necessary in 3.10.


We'll see the next game. Singed pick was probably an attempt to throw mvp ozone off their game, but you have to realize Nasus isn't expected either. MVP O went tit for tat on that top lane.


On August 23 2013 20:00 partydude89 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 19:57 ketchup wrote:
On August 23 2013 19:55 partydude89 wrote:
forgive me if this is s a stupid question, i'm really new to League. but it seems like these mid game teams always beat late game teams, why don't all teams try mid game stuff?


This isn't entirely true. The mid-game comp has to apply the right type of pressure to make sure they come out on top and finish the game. If the game really does go late enough, SKTT1 definitely has a good chance. It just so happens that Korean teams are really strong at that mid-game pressure. Watch some of the other regions, and you will notice some teams giving up leads that they shouldn't have. This is mostly due to the lack of pressure applied by the early winning team.


but it seems like it's so easy to do mid game damage. hmm. time to watch some more league.



I agree that an early game leads does have a pretty huge impact in LoL(and so your thinking makes sense). I just don't agree that you can generalize the whole thing down to "mid-game team comp are superior". That's not to say you are wrong. You might be correct in your assumption with the current state of the game. Really just difficult to tell currently. We will see what strategies are used in the next few weeks.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
August 23 2013 11:01 GMT
#4755
Zed just have a «delete» button at this point.
The legend of Darien lives on
partydude89
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1850 Posts
August 23 2013 11:02 GMT
#4756
So how late does this have to go then for SKT1 to have a chance? or is it already too late?
#1 Official Hack Fan|#2 Bomber behind Wintex.|Curious|Life|Flash|TY|Cure|Maru|sOs|Jin Air Green Wings fighting!|SBENU Fighting!|
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 11:03:19
August 23 2013 11:03 GMT
#4757
On August 23 2013 20:00 Inflicted_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 19:57 Fionn wrote:
I don't get SKT's comp. I don't get Twitch when Piglet is 20-2 on Vayne/Caitlyn. I don't get making Faker play Karthus when it failed last semifinals.

Just stahp.


Against world-class botlanes, picking Vayne into Cait is suicide imo


It was obvious they would 2v1 against singed and if they didn't it's not really that bad.

Don't really see how would a vayne be better vs that team though.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
August 23 2013 11:03 GMT
#4758
On August 23 2013 20:02 partydude89 wrote:
So how late does this have to go then for SKT1 to have a chance? or is it already too late?


Late enough where a 13k gold diff means nothing.

So like. 20 more minutes?
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
August 23 2013 11:03 GMT
#4759
On August 23 2013 20:01 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 19:59 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On August 23 2013 19:57 ketchup wrote:
On August 23 2013 19:55 partydude89 wrote:
forgive me if this is s a stupid question, i'm really new to League. but it seems like these mid game teams always beat late game teams, why don't all teams try mid game stuff?


This isn't entirely true. The mid-game comp has to apply the right type of pressure to make sure they come out on top and finish the game. If the game really does go late enough, SKTT1 definitely has a good chance. It just so happens that Korean teams are really strong at that mid-game pressure. Watch some of the other regions, and you will notice some teams giving up leads that they shouldn't have. This is mostly due to the lack of pressure applied by the early winning team.

Most korean teams highly prefer early/mid game comps over late game. Singed was a terrible pick here. I think it'd have gone okay with a better top laner who didn't pull his jungler away so much which isn't entirely necessary in 3.10.


We'll see the next game. Singed pick was probably an attempt to throw mvp ozone off their game, but you have to realize Nasus isn't expected either. MVP O went tit for tat on that top lane.

The fact that Ozone got top tower so early was really huge for Ozone. The fact that SKT T1 couldn't contest the first dragon after cait and sona rotated was really big. Maybe they overestimated the 3.10 buffs to turrets cause that turret went down incredibly fast.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 11:05:59
August 23 2013 11:04 GMT
#4760
would have been so funny, had Homme killed 1 person 1v5

e: piglet picking vayne into imp's cait would have been suicide imo.
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