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On June 14 2013 06:40 mr_tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 06:37 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On June 14 2013 06:32 mr_tolkien wrote:On June 14 2013 06:30 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On June 14 2013 06:26 AsnSensation wrote:
funny thing is that kiwi will stomp Nien now with that dorans+ ton of pots and then ppl will blame Nien :D
already 17 vs 3 cs holy moly it's still nien's fault lol kennen with fb gold isnt a huge deal vs elise nien is just shit Nien is very talented but he's clearly not a good top laner at the moment. On June 14 2013 06:33 onlywonderboy wrote:On June 14 2013 06:32 mr_tolkien wrote:On June 14 2013 06:30 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On June 14 2013 06:26 AsnSensation wrote:
funny thing is that kiwi will stomp Nien now with that dorans+ ton of pots and then ppl will blame Nien :D
already 17 vs 3 cs holy moly it's still nien's fault lol kennen with fb gold isnt a huge deal vs elise nien is just shit Nien is very talented but he's clearly not a good top laner at the moment. That's a much more rational analysis than just saying he is shit. but he is shit i don't get why people try to make excuses by saying he will somehow just improve he's not gonna magically get better at top lane just by getting stomped more. it's nothing about experience or anything he just lacks the basic aptitude and mechanics and understanding to play a top laner sure if he spams games for 6 months like the koreans maybe he can become a good top laner but 1. that's not gonna happen 2. he's gonna get benched in 6 months anyways might as well do it sooner than later 100% downgrade from hotshotgg, as sad as that is. clg might as well just keep lane swapping 24/7 since nien is realistically not going to win, or even go even, in a top lane for months If he focuses on the basics champs (Renekt, Elise, Kennen, Jayce, ...), he can get to a pretty good level in a few weeks/months. Top lane is just a bit more trade-oriented than the other ones, but well it's still the same game, and Nien isn't exactly bad...
I disagree;
the bare basics of league is applicable across all lanes, but by that same logic, a player could transfer positions very easily. it's simply an issue of getting used to new champs and stuff - and that honestly doesn't take too long; nien has had plenty of time to get acclimated to a new champion set, so it's not just learning new champs that's the problem. as the koreans have shown, with proper practice, keeping a ridiculous pool of champs "tourney-ready" isn't unrealistic at all.
learning new champs isn't the problem, nien just can't play a non-adc role, because as an adc, he had an entire team peeling for him and giving him space. when he's expected to do stuff on his own, all his weaknesses are exposed, and i don't think that's what "more practice" can fix
his vlad game yesterday was just awful he actually made negative contributions to his team, and this game doesn't seem to be much different
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On June 14 2013 06:44 Amethyst21 wrote:
There is a good chance dig throws this game because its Dig. I believe in Thrownitas
The prophet.
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Never underestimate Dig's throwing ability
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United States23455 Posts
Neither CLG or Dig are that impressive. Both look like bottom 6-8 teams.
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Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
That Monsoon back over the wall was so sexy
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WHAT
I need to see a replay of that
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On June 14 2013 06:44 Amethyst21 wrote:
There is a good chance dig throws this game because its Dig. I believe in Thrownitas
You were right.
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Dig doesn't manage to layer their CC at all. Either, they blow everything at once, or one hits and the rest is whiffed.
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Guys, it's clearly been too long since LCS. We all forgot Dignitas's #1 baseball team NA
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Sick play by kiwikid there. Flashes perfectly so Chauster doesn't even have to do anything but press R and win.
Feels like Dig will never ever be a true force in the scene. Feels like they should honestly just scrap the team and rebuild it from the ground up. Sure they will always hover top 5 or so but never be anything more than that.
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Elise full glass cannon lol.
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On June 14 2013 06:46 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 06:44 Amethyst21 wrote:
There is a good chance dig throws this game because its Dig. I believe in Thrownitas The prophet.
Pretty easy to say:
1. Its Dig
2. 2 kills on Sona, 0 on Diana vs. kills on Karthus and Graves
3. Crumbz has absolutely nothing on Zac vs. Ageis on Noc
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On June 14 2013 06:47 qanik wrote:
Elise full glass cannon lol.
Zhonyas and Haunting is glass cannon now?
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Yep, it is Dignitas alright.
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On June 14 2013 06:44 Pinith wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 06:44 maliceee wrote:
wtf was double doing there? he sat bottom lane that whole time, if he had come with nien that would have gone even better. I think he was life stealing back up
I thought the same thing until he stayed for almost 3 waves.
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Patoy blew his load too early
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On June 14 2013 06:46 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 06:40 mr_tolkien wrote:On June 14 2013 06:37 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On June 14 2013 06:32 mr_tolkien wrote:On June 14 2013 06:30 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On June 14 2013 06:26 AsnSensation wrote:
funny thing is that kiwi will stomp Nien now with that dorans+ ton of pots and then ppl will blame Nien :D
already 17 vs 3 cs holy moly it's still nien's fault lol kennen with fb gold isnt a huge deal vs elise nien is just shit Nien is very talented but he's clearly not a good top laner at the moment. On June 14 2013 06:33 onlywonderboy wrote:On June 14 2013 06:32 mr_tolkien wrote:On June 14 2013 06:30 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On June 14 2013 06:26 AsnSensation wrote:
funny thing is that kiwi will stomp Nien now with that dorans+ ton of pots and then ppl will blame Nien :D
already 17 vs 3 cs holy moly it's still nien's fault lol kennen with fb gold isnt a huge deal vs elise nien is just shit Nien is very talented but he's clearly not a good top laner at the moment. That's a much more rational analysis than just saying he is shit. but he is shit i don't get why people try to make excuses by saying he will somehow just improve he's not gonna magically get better at top lane just by getting stomped more. it's nothing about experience or anything he just lacks the basic aptitude and mechanics and understanding to play a top laner sure if he spams games for 6 months like the koreans maybe he can become a good top laner but 1. that's not gonna happen 2. he's gonna get benched in 6 months anyways might as well do it sooner than later 100% downgrade from hotshotgg, as sad as that is. clg might as well just keep lane swapping 24/7 since nien is realistically not going to win, or even go even, in a top lane for months If he focuses on the basics champs (Renekt, Elise, Kennen, Jayce, ...), he can get to a pretty good level in a few weeks/months. Top lane is just a bit more trade-oriented than the other ones, but well it's still the same game, and Nien isn't exactly bad... I disagree; the bare basics of league is applicable across all lanes, but by that same logic, a player could transfer positions very easily. it's simply an issue of getting used to new champs and stuff - and that honestly doesn't take too long; nien has had plenty of time to get acclimated to a new champion set, so it's not just learning new champs that's the problem. as the koreans have shown, with proper practice, keeping a ridiculous pool of champs "tourney-ready" isn't unrealistic at all. learning new champs isn't the problem, nien just can't play a non-adc role, because as an adc, he had an entire team peeling for him and giving him space. when he's expected to do stuff on his own, all his weaknesses are exposed, and i don't think that's what "more practice" can fix his vlad game yesterday was just awful he actually made negative contributions to his team, and this game doesn't seem to be much different
are we watching the same game ? he started against a first blood kennen and got camped by zac spamming pink wards. he STILL didn't die early, he died only once under his tower and played really well at that dragon fight. i have no idea who this guy is honestly since i dont the na scene well but he played this game very well
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