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If you have any questions you want to ask C9 Meteos, PM Neo in the next 24 hours. Interview will be conducted this weekend.
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
June 14 2013 21:25 GMT
#2661
On June 15 2013 06:20 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2013 06:19 NeoIllusions wrote:
All this Kha'Zix hate. l0l, you gaiz

Do you really like pre-3.8 Kha? It's a fun champ to play; no doubt, but the amount of damage he puts out is actually stupid.

there's been worse tbh.
BW -> League -> CSGO
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 14 2013 21:25 GMT
#2662
On June 15 2013 06:24 JBright wrote:
And with that I think VES reclaims the worst team designation from Dignitas.

TSM already took it didn't they
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 14 2013 21:25 GMT
#2663
On June 15 2013 06:24 NeoIllusions wrote:
Either way, I think VES's patent Jungle Ez/Janna Push Comp strat has potential, guitar just needs to refine it fast.

I'd say refine the team in general, but if GGU/Vulcun from last season is any indication, we can hope. I sure do.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
June 14 2013 21:26 GMT
#2664
Sneaky is sneakily underrated. He's really good.

I'd probably say the C9 rankings go: Hai = Meteos > Sneaky > Lemon > Balls
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 21:27:58
June 14 2013 21:26 GMT
#2665
On June 15 2013 06:22 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2013 06:20 Alaric wrote:
On June 15 2013 06:18 NeoIllusions wrote:
Trundle would've have easily shit on DIG's all-in dive in that last fight.
Just sayin'.

Trundle would have get shat on by Kennen and been unable to push or counter Kha'Zix's instaclears mid too. It's more important to get to the point where Velocity threw, than to have a comp able to recover if you throw.

Cris just needed to stay alive and farm under turret even. The early game totally revolves in the other two lanes and how fast they can push. The 5th slot means Cris needs to bring as much utility to his team as possible and I'm thinking there's no champion that fits the bill better than Trundle. Land turd too stronk as initiation or kiting.

The issue is that if Cris is stuck under turret, the pressure being created by jungle Ezreal lane push is mitigated by lane pressure top (and the loss of an early top turret, say, because Trundle vs. Kennen is pretty bad), and Trundle similarly can't push sidelanes by himself quickly (no waveclear tools compared to Renekton with a Sunfires), in a game where early/mid game minion pressure is key to the strategy, and where the enemy lanes needed to be anchored due to lane pressure. If Kennen had room to roam mid for instance, it could undo VES' early game pace (which constant Renek shove prevented).

Trundle is more effective in 5-man push/pokefests, but keep in mind VES doesn't want to get into 5 man groups, but splitpush.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 14 2013 21:26 GMT
#2666
On June 15 2013 06:26 Fionn wrote:
Sneaky is sneakily underrated. He's really good.

I'd probably say the C9 rankings go: Hai = Meteos > Sneaky > Lemon > Balls

No way. Lemon > Sneaky. I also think Meteos slightly > Hai.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
June 14 2013 21:26 GMT
#2667
You may discuss the Renekton pick, but it really did not matter at all. They had the game won, but decided to waste their most important disengage (Janna ult) for a mere heal and then proceeded to attack an inhib. >.<
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
June 14 2013 21:27 GMT
#2668
The Unofficial Worst Team NA Championship:

Velocity > CLG
CLG > Dig
Dig > TSM
TSM tries to lose the belt against Vulcun.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 14 2013 21:27 GMT
#2669
On June 15 2013 06:26 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2013 06:22 NeoIllusions wrote:
On June 15 2013 06:20 Alaric wrote:
On June 15 2013 06:18 NeoIllusions wrote:
Trundle would've have easily shit on DIG's all-in dive in that last fight.
Just sayin'.

Trundle would have get shat on by Kennen and been unable to push or counter Kha'Zix's instaclears mid too. It's more important to get to the point where Velocity threw, than to have a comp able to recover if you throw.

Cris just needed to stay alive and farm under turret even. The early game totally revolves in the other two lanes and how fast they can push. The 5th slot means Cris needs to bring as much utility to his team as possible and I'm thinking there's no champion that fits the bill better than Trundle. Land turd too stronk as initiation or kiting.

The issue is that if Cris is stuck under turret, the pressure being created by jungle Ezreal lane push is mitigated by lane pressure top (and the loss of an early top turret, say, because Trundle vs. Kennen is pretty bad), and Trundle similarly can't push sidelanes by himself quickly (no waveclear tools compared to Renekton with a Sunfires), in a game where early/mid game minion pressure is key to the strategy.

Trundle is more effective in 5-man push/pokefests, but keep in mind VES doesn't want to get into 5 man groups, but splitpush.

Alright, you're right. The lack of wave clear is the biggest thing that makes me agree and take back Trundle.
Hmm, what else beside Renek then...
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 21:29:56
June 14 2013 21:28 GMT
#2670
On June 15 2013 06:27 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2013 06:26 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On June 15 2013 06:22 NeoIllusions wrote:
On June 15 2013 06:20 Alaric wrote:
On June 15 2013 06:18 NeoIllusions wrote:
Trundle would've have easily shit on DIG's all-in dive in that last fight.
Just sayin'.

Trundle would have get shat on by Kennen and been unable to push or counter Kha'Zix's instaclears mid too. It's more important to get to the point where Velocity threw, than to have a comp able to recover if you throw.

Cris just needed to stay alive and farm under turret even. The early game totally revolves in the other two lanes and how fast they can push. The 5th slot means Cris needs to bring as much utility to his team as possible and I'm thinking there's no champion that fits the bill better than Trundle. Land turd too stronk as initiation or kiting.

The issue is that if Cris is stuck under turret, the pressure being created by jungle Ezreal lane push is mitigated by lane pressure top (and the loss of an early top turret, say, because Trundle vs. Kennen is pretty bad), and Trundle similarly can't push sidelanes by himself quickly (no waveclear tools compared to Renekton with a Sunfires), in a game where early/mid game minion pressure is key to the strategy.

Trundle is more effective in 5-man push/pokefests, but keep in mind VES doesn't want to get into 5 man groups, but splitpush.

Alright, you're right. The lack of wave clear is the biggest thing that makes me agree and take back Trundle.
Hmm, what else beside Renek then...

For splitpushing?

TRRRONODOMERE!

Hmm apart from that... Well, Rengar is an amazing splitpusher.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 14 2013 21:28 GMT
#2671
On June 15 2013 06:26 Prog wrote:
You may discuss the Renekton pick, but it really did not matter at all. They had the game won, but decided to waste their most important disengage (Janna ult) for a mere heal and then proceeded to attack an inhib. >.<

ahaha, true. That Monsoon was probably biggest losing point for VES. >_>
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
June 14 2013 21:30 GMT
#2672
On June 15 2013 06:28 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2013 06:27 NeoIllusions wrote:
On June 15 2013 06:26 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On June 15 2013 06:22 NeoIllusions wrote:
On June 15 2013 06:20 Alaric wrote:
On June 15 2013 06:18 NeoIllusions wrote:
Trundle would've have easily shit on DIG's all-in dive in that last fight.
Just sayin'.

Trundle would have get shat on by Kennen and been unable to push or counter Kha'Zix's instaclears mid too. It's more important to get to the point where Velocity threw, than to have a comp able to recover if you throw.

Cris just needed to stay alive and farm under turret even. The early game totally revolves in the other two lanes and how fast they can push. The 5th slot means Cris needs to bring as much utility to his team as possible and I'm thinking there's no champion that fits the bill better than Trundle. Land turd too stronk as initiation or kiting.

The issue is that if Cris is stuck under turret, the pressure being created by jungle Ezreal lane push is mitigated by lane pressure top (and the loss of an early top turret, say, because Trundle vs. Kennen is pretty bad), and Trundle similarly can't push sidelanes by himself quickly (no waveclear tools compared to Renekton with a Sunfires), in a game where early/mid game minion pressure is key to the strategy.

Trundle is more effective in 5-man push/pokefests, but keep in mind VES doesn't want to get into 5 man groups, but splitpush.

Alright, you're right. The lack of wave clear is the biggest thing that makes me agree and take back Trundle.
Hmm, what else beside Renek then...

For splitpushing?

TRRRONODOMERE!

Need a tank when engaging is undeniable.
Nasus maybe.
And fuk yeah Zion SPARTAN!!!!
Terran
Capricious_LoL
Profile Joined December 2012
United States222 Posts
June 14 2013 21:31 GMT
#2673
They were anxious to win on the spot, which is understandable, but doing so creates an opportunity for someone to fuck up, and fuck up they did.
NA LoL: Capriciøus
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
June 14 2013 21:31 GMT
#2674
Next time Coast faces CLG, Zion should just say, 'My parents kick the shit out of your parents, Doubelift. Get trashed.'
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 21:34:24
June 14 2013 21:32 GMT
#2675
Btw is ZionSpartan Jewish? Just wondering because of the name. Maybe even Greek/Jewish? :D

edit
Nvm his real name is Indian.
Off-season = best season
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
June 14 2013 21:32 GMT
#2676
On June 15 2013 06:31 Fionn wrote:
Next time Coast faces CLG, Zion should just say, 'My parents kick the shit out of your parents, Doubelift. Get trashed.'

That would probably be the most BM thing I've ever seen in esports lol.
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
June 14 2013 21:32 GMT
#2677
C9 vs Vel is going to be interesting now that I saw that past game.
Capricious_LoL
Profile Joined December 2012
United States222 Posts
June 14 2013 21:33 GMT
#2678
rofl 35
NA LoL: Capriciøus
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
June 14 2013 21:33 GMT
#2679
Shiphtur looks nervous as fuck lol
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
June 14 2013 21:33 GMT
#2680
35 KDA to 3.1

YOU'RE DEAD
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
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