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On June 15 2013 06:20 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2013 06:19 NeoIllusions wrote: All this Kha'Zix hate. l0l, you gaiz Do you really like pre-3.8 Kha? It's a fun champ to play; no doubt, but the amount of damage he puts out is actually stupid. there's been worse tbh.
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On June 15 2013 06:24 JBright wrote: And with that I think VES reclaims the worst team designation from Dignitas. TSM already took it didn't they
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On June 15 2013 06:24 NeoIllusions wrote: Either way, I think VES's patent Jungle Ez/Janna Push Comp strat has potential, guitar just needs to refine it fast. I'd say refine the team in general, but if GGU/Vulcun from last season is any indication, we can hope. I sure do.
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Sneaky is sneakily underrated. He's really good.
I'd probably say the C9 rankings go: Hai = Meteos > Sneaky > Lemon > Balls
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On June 15 2013 06:22 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2013 06:20 Alaric wrote:On June 15 2013 06:18 NeoIllusions wrote: Trundle would've have easily shit on DIG's all-in dive in that last fight. Just sayin'. Trundle would have get shat on by Kennen and been unable to push or counter Kha'Zix's instaclears mid too. It's more important to get to the point where Velocity threw, than to have a comp able to recover if you throw. Cris just needed to stay alive and farm under turret even. The early game totally revolves in the other two lanes and how fast they can push. The 5th slot means Cris needs to bring as much utility to his team as possible and I'm thinking there's no champion that fits the bill better than Trundle. Land turd too stronk as initiation or kiting. The issue is that if Cris is stuck under turret, the pressure being created by jungle Ezreal lane push is mitigated by lane pressure top (and the loss of an early top turret, say, because Trundle vs. Kennen is pretty bad), and Trundle similarly can't push sidelanes by himself quickly (no waveclear tools compared to Renekton with a Sunfires), in a game where early/mid game minion pressure is key to the strategy, and where the enemy lanes needed to be anchored due to lane pressure. If Kennen had room to roam mid for instance, it could undo VES' early game pace (which constant Renek shove prevented).
Trundle is more effective in 5-man push/pokefests, but keep in mind VES doesn't want to get into 5 man groups, but splitpush.
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On June 15 2013 06:26 Fionn wrote: Sneaky is sneakily underrated. He's really good.
I'd probably say the C9 rankings go: Hai = Meteos > Sneaky > Lemon > Balls No way. Lemon > Sneaky. I also think Meteos slightly > Hai.
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You may discuss the Renekton pick, but it really did not matter at all. They had the game won, but decided to waste their most important disengage (Janna ult) for a mere heal and then proceeded to attack an inhib. >.<
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The Unofficial Worst Team NA Championship:
Velocity > CLG CLG > Dig Dig > TSM TSM tries to lose the belt against Vulcun.
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On June 15 2013 06:26 Lord Tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2013 06:22 NeoIllusions wrote:On June 15 2013 06:20 Alaric wrote:On June 15 2013 06:18 NeoIllusions wrote: Trundle would've have easily shit on DIG's all-in dive in that last fight. Just sayin'. Trundle would have get shat on by Kennen and been unable to push or counter Kha'Zix's instaclears mid too. It's more important to get to the point where Velocity threw, than to have a comp able to recover if you throw. Cris just needed to stay alive and farm under turret even. The early game totally revolves in the other two lanes and how fast they can push. The 5th slot means Cris needs to bring as much utility to his team as possible and I'm thinking there's no champion that fits the bill better than Trundle. Land turd too stronk as initiation or kiting. The issue is that if Cris is stuck under turret, the pressure being created by jungle Ezreal lane push is mitigated by lane pressure top (and the loss of an early top turret, say, because Trundle vs. Kennen is pretty bad), and Trundle similarly can't push sidelanes by himself quickly (no waveclear tools compared to Renekton with a Sunfires), in a game where early/mid game minion pressure is key to the strategy. Trundle is more effective in 5-man push/pokefests, but keep in mind VES doesn't want to get into 5 man groups, but splitpush. Alright, you're right. The lack of wave clear is the biggest thing that makes me agree and take back Trundle. Hmm, what else beside Renek then...
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On June 15 2013 06:27 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2013 06:26 Lord Tolkien wrote:On June 15 2013 06:22 NeoIllusions wrote:On June 15 2013 06:20 Alaric wrote:On June 15 2013 06:18 NeoIllusions wrote: Trundle would've have easily shit on DIG's all-in dive in that last fight. Just sayin'. Trundle would have get shat on by Kennen and been unable to push or counter Kha'Zix's instaclears mid too. It's more important to get to the point where Velocity threw, than to have a comp able to recover if you throw. Cris just needed to stay alive and farm under turret even. The early game totally revolves in the other two lanes and how fast they can push. The 5th slot means Cris needs to bring as much utility to his team as possible and I'm thinking there's no champion that fits the bill better than Trundle. Land turd too stronk as initiation or kiting. The issue is that if Cris is stuck under turret, the pressure being created by jungle Ezreal lane push is mitigated by lane pressure top (and the loss of an early top turret, say, because Trundle vs. Kennen is pretty bad), and Trundle similarly can't push sidelanes by himself quickly (no waveclear tools compared to Renekton with a Sunfires), in a game where early/mid game minion pressure is key to the strategy. Trundle is more effective in 5-man push/pokefests, but keep in mind VES doesn't want to get into 5 man groups, but splitpush. Alright, you're right. The lack of wave clear is the biggest thing that makes me agree and take back Trundle. Hmm, what else beside Renek then... For splitpushing?
TRRRONODOMERE!
Hmm apart from that... Well, Rengar is an amazing splitpusher.
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On June 15 2013 06:26 Prog wrote: You may discuss the Renekton pick, but it really did not matter at all. They had the game won, but decided to waste their most important disengage (Janna ult) for a mere heal and then proceeded to attack an inhib. >.< ahaha, true. That Monsoon was probably biggest losing point for VES. >_>
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On June 15 2013 06:28 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2013 06:27 NeoIllusions wrote:On June 15 2013 06:26 Lord Tolkien wrote:On June 15 2013 06:22 NeoIllusions wrote:On June 15 2013 06:20 Alaric wrote:On June 15 2013 06:18 NeoIllusions wrote: Trundle would've have easily shit on DIG's all-in dive in that last fight. Just sayin'. Trundle would have get shat on by Kennen and been unable to push or counter Kha'Zix's instaclears mid too. It's more important to get to the point where Velocity threw, than to have a comp able to recover if you throw. Cris just needed to stay alive and farm under turret even. The early game totally revolves in the other two lanes and how fast they can push. The 5th slot means Cris needs to bring as much utility to his team as possible and I'm thinking there's no champion that fits the bill better than Trundle. Land turd too stronk as initiation or kiting. The issue is that if Cris is stuck under turret, the pressure being created by jungle Ezreal lane push is mitigated by lane pressure top (and the loss of an early top turret, say, because Trundle vs. Kennen is pretty bad), and Trundle similarly can't push sidelanes by himself quickly (no waveclear tools compared to Renekton with a Sunfires), in a game where early/mid game minion pressure is key to the strategy. Trundle is more effective in 5-man push/pokefests, but keep in mind VES doesn't want to get into 5 man groups, but splitpush. Alright, you're right. The lack of wave clear is the biggest thing that makes me agree and take back Trundle. Hmm, what else beside Renek then... For splitpushing? TRRRONODOMERE! Need a tank when engaging is undeniable. Nasus maybe. And fuk yeah Zion SPARTAN!!!!
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They were anxious to win on the spot, which is understandable, but doing so creates an opportunity for someone to fuck up, and fuck up they did.
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Next time Coast faces CLG, Zion should just say, 'My parents kick the shit out of your parents, Doubelift. Get trashed.'
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Btw is ZionSpartan Jewish? Just wondering because of the name. Maybe even Greek/Jewish? :D
edit Nvm his real name is Indian.
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On June 15 2013 06:31 Fionn wrote: Next time Coast faces CLG, Zion should just say, 'My parents kick the shit out of your parents, Doubelift. Get trashed.' That would probably be the most BM thing I've ever seen in esports lol.
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C9 vs Vel is going to be interesting now that I saw that past game.
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Shiphtur looks nervous as fuck lol
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