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If you have any questions you want to ask C9 Meteos, PM Neo in the next 24 hours. Interview will be conducted this weekend.
Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
June 14 2013 19:16 GMT
#2381
I wonder how will TOO will deal with the midseason jungle change. Historically he has been struggling with new jungles and has been adapting very slowly.
Doesn't matter today of course.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
June 14 2013 19:21 GMT
#2382
On June 14 2013 20:36 Cuddle wrote:
So, I'm calling it now. Jack Etienne is a genius.


Yeah, he's pretty much bypassed the Riot rule of not having two teams and found a loophole with C9. Manage C9, move them right next door to TSM, and pretty much make them brother teams without being owned under the same brand. They get the luxury of always having a scrim partner, other high level players to discuss strategies with, and get all the benefits of being brother teams without Riot coming down on them.

So far, Cloud 9 have been by far the most fun team to watch in NA. By no means are they anywhere near a CJ Entus Blaze currently, but the potential is there. They have the best team fighting currently in NA, and they know how to turret dive and set up fights better than I've seen in NA. When Meteos or Hai jump in, the other teams follows right behind and set up combos without any gigantic errors. It's sad to watch how C9 fight, and then see what happened in Dig and CLG where Crumbz would jump in, get blown up, and then have his team be forced into a 4v5 that they have no way of winning without the tank in Zac.

It's not impossible to beat C9, and I'm sure CLG, Dig, TSM, Curse, and the rest will improve during the course of the season, but C9 are currently playing at a different level synchronization wise. If you had to compare C9 to any Korean team, I'd say they're a lot like SKT #2.

Hai and Meteos are the focus of C9, as are Faker and bengi on SKT #2. Both teams have a ridiculous laning phase, usually being able to get a lead by just destroying their own lanes before it comes to team fighting. While SKT #2 isn't the best in Korea with their team fights, you can't really compare SKT #2 having to play Frost, Blaze, and Ozone who are all amazing at team fights, positioning. etc. and C9 going up against teams that have initiators die before the fight even begins. C9 is excellent in team fighting in NA standards, but they really could become America's hope along with TSM if they can level up a bit more before worlds.

It will also be interesting to see how other teams react and play against them after going through them once. Not to say that just knowing that they're uber aggressive and play Korean strats/comps will change a loss into a win, but at least other teams can try to prepare for them.

Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 14 2013 19:34 GMT
#2383
Ofc they aren't lol. It kind of sucks because you just hope the other teams will raise their game. If they're going to stomp against these teams it's not really good practice for them but hey they were behind early that one game so at least that's something right? I'm a firm believer in playing against guys who are better than you. If it's not here well, I wouldn't mind seeing them compete in something like a G1 series like Dota. Ofc it's not impossible to beat them. We've already seen some openings.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
June 14 2013 19:46 GMT
#2384
the skt #2 vibes i have with c9 are amazing.

hopefully they don't choke in the semifinals to clg like their korean counterparts.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 19:49:43
June 14 2013 19:49 GMT
#2385
On June 15 2013 04:46 Fionn wrote:
the skt #2 vibes i have with c9 are amazing.

hopefully they don't choke in the semifinals to clg like their korean counterparts.

Since when do NA teams choke?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 14 2013 19:53 GMT
#2386
On June 15 2013 04:10 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2013 04:01 wei2coolman wrote:
To be honest I'm not quite completely on the C9 hype train. The only player I've seen that on that team that has really impressed me is Meteos; everyone else is pretty okay. I don't think they're quite as good as people are saying.

They have really good synergy and their team fights are on point. Balls goes 0-4 in lane and still manages to turn fights around with clutch Equalizers. Even if they lose lane they make up for it with their coordination. NA values individual talent a lot, C9 is turning that on its head.

Well Rumble is a silly champion; that's for sure.
I think their real strength is picks/ban phase to be honest. They play out the lanes okay-ish. They sorta remind me of M5 in regards to how their strengths increase past lane phase
liftlift > tsm
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 14 2013 19:59 GMT
#2387
On June 15 2013 04:46 Fionn wrote:
the skt #2 vibes i have with c9 are amazing.

hopefully they don't choke in the semifinals to clg like their korean counterparts.

That was pretty funny, implying that CLG will be in semifinals
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 14 2013 20:00 GMT
#2388
On June 15 2013 04:49 nojitosunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2013 04:46 Fionn wrote:
the skt #2 vibes i have with c9 are amazing.

hopefully they don't choke in the semifinals to clg like their korean counterparts.

Since when do NA teams choke?

Dignitas don't throw, they only have occasional flashes of brillance where they manage to close a game.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
June 14 2013 20:02 GMT
#2389
Maybe I'm weird, but Dignitas to me is just meh. I don't dislike them, root against them, or care if they win. They're very vanilla to me.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
June 14 2013 20:03 GMT
#2390
No, I do not want to watch that game again. Thank you very much.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 14 2013 20:03 GMT
#2391
Predictions:

Velocity
Cloud 9
Vulcun
Curse
Coast
CLG
TSM
Cloud 9
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
krutopatkin
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany2612 Posts
June 14 2013 20:03 GMT
#2392
On June 15 2013 05:02 Fionn wrote:
Maybe I'm weird, but Dignitas to me is just meh. I don't dislike them, root against them, or care if they win. They're very vanilla to me.


I don't think they have a lot of character or a certain playstyle that make people like or dislike them. (except for qtpie maybe)
I feel the same about them.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 20:11:27
June 14 2013 20:11 GMT
#2393
On June 15 2013 05:02 Fionn wrote:
Maybe I'm weird, but Dignitas to me is just meh. I don't dislike them, root against them, or care if they win. They're very vanilla to me.

As a long standing RS/Dignitas fan, they haven't quite been the same since they lost Jatt and then Voyboy.

Not since Soraka mid/Lulu top cheese, anyways. They use to be quite creative when they first broke into the scene.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 14 2013 20:11 GMT
#2394
On June 15 2013 05:02 Fionn wrote:
Maybe I'm weird, but Dignitas to me is just meh. I don't dislike them, root against them, or care if they win. They're very vanilla to me.

Oh, they're bad, there's no discussing it. It's just that people seem to have picked up how negative (and sometimes uncouth) I am toward them despite claiming to be a fan, and I've voiced several times that it's all about being so jaded by the way they waste their potential (not only throwing games, but in general) that you can only be gueninely surprised and happy when they actually succeed at something.

I don't know if they're actually stagnating when the general level improves, but since the last tier of the spring split they've given me the impression that they actually regressed at the game.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
June 14 2013 20:12 GMT
#2395
Dignitas doesn't win. They only fail to throw.
Glorious SEA doto
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
June 14 2013 20:14 GMT
#2396
qtpie: Cris would be god if he had decent mechanics. Maybe in the future, he'll be god.

lol
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 14 2013 20:14 GMT
#2397
Oh man, Crumbzz calling Velocity the weakest team. Doublelift I can see because he's actually good and all but Crumbzz, reallyyyy
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 14 2013 20:14 GMT
#2398
Real question is who is more troll, qtpie or cris. hue. But, I agree with qtpie's analysis of Cris; he has potential to be a god.
liftlift > tsm
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
June 14 2013 20:14 GMT
#2399
Qtpie is so hilarious.Every time that guy speaks many laughs are had.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
June 14 2013 20:15 GMT
#2400
On June 15 2013 05:14 Shikyo wrote:
Oh man, Crumbzz calling Velocity the weakest team. Doublelift I can see because he's actually good and all but Crumbzz, reallyyyy

People underrate Crumbzz as a jungler, flat out.

Also, trash talk curse go, Dig is gonna lose qq.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
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