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sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
May 24 2013 06:37 GMT
#541
Man Clearlove is such a better name than Troll lol.
Forever Young
susySquark
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1692 Posts
May 24 2013 06:37 GMT
#542
On May 24 2013 15:36 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
I think yorick would be the bomb in 1v1 on this map. get as much MS as possible, blow your mana pool pushing, run back.

Free cs for opponent though
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
May 24 2013 06:37 GMT
#543
On May 24 2013 15:35 NeoIllusions wrote:
CS didn't matter. saint's mechanics lulz but more importantly, turrets give CS.
If saint just landed his shit...


Agreed. He also wasted his gernade/mana by hitting his own minions with the gernade near Insec's tower. He might have forced insec to go back a lot earlier and taken the tower. That was definitely just bad play.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
May 24 2013 06:37 GMT
#544
On May 24 2013 15:36 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 15:35 NeoIllusions wrote:
CS didn't matter. saint's mechanics lulz but more importantly, turrets give CS.
If saint just landed his shit...

Have you tried to land a Heimer grenade recently? Shits hard.


He could have landed his rockets if he was a little more careful with his positioning. It costed him a few times.
BackSideAttack
Profile Joined December 2010
1103 Posts
May 24 2013 06:38 GMT
#545
On May 24 2013 15:36 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 15:35 BackSideAttack wrote:
wtf that western bias, how is troll beating diamond an upset....there is no underdog in the situation

well most people regardless of region consider Insec and Diamond the top 2 junglers


Pretty sure the regardless of region clause wouldn't apply. I'm pretty sure the Chinese and Sea scenes consider Troll to be no worse if not better.
thefreed
Profile Joined January 2011
United States222 Posts
May 24 2013 06:38 GMT
#546
On May 24 2013 15:36 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 15:35 BackSideAttack wrote:
wtf that western bias, how is troll beating diamond an upset....there is no underdog in the situation

well most people regardless of region consider Insec and Diamond the top 2 junglers


Honestly I don't see what's so good about Insec, I think Helios or Cloudtemplar might be better.
My country is the world, My religion is to do good. -T.P The fool doth thinks his a wise man, but the wise man knows he is a fool. -W.S
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
May 24 2013 06:38 GMT
#547
if saint had insec's mechanics, he would have won against insec.
#NAbrainsoverbrawns
Hey! Listen!
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-24 06:38:49
May 24 2013 06:38 GMT
#548
On May 24 2013 15:37 sung_moon wrote:
Man Clearlove is such a better name than Troll lol.

I know right? Makes me so sad.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-24 06:40:06
May 24 2013 06:38 GMT
#549
On May 24 2013 15:36 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 15:35 NeoIllusions wrote:
CS didn't matter. saint's mechanics lulz but more importantly, turrets give CS.
If saint just landed his shit...

Have you tried to land a Heimer grenade recently? Shits hard.

Easier with his ulti up (improved projectile speed).

It was a good effort (though saint missing lane cs made me somewhat sad). Was closer then people made it out to be.

EDIT: I would've loved to see a Fiora, since everyone tends to pick ranged champs. But ignore me.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
May 24 2013 06:39 GMT
#550
On May 24 2013 15:37 NeoIllusions wrote:
I don't think Troll is at the same level as Diamond/inSec yet.

Doesnt have much to do ith this though.
Diamond isnt great on mechanics. Ans almost only plays jungle not lane.
Off-season = best season
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
May 24 2013 06:39 GMT
#551
On May 24 2013 15:38 thefreed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 15:36 Ryuu314 wrote:
On May 24 2013 15:35 BackSideAttack wrote:
wtf that western bias, how is troll beating diamond an upset....there is no underdog in the situation

well most people regardless of region consider Insec and Diamond the top 2 junglers


Honestly I don't see what's so good about Insec, I think Helios or Cloudtemplar might be better.

he just straight up has the best mechanics amongst junglers
Hey! Listen!
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
May 24 2013 06:39 GMT
#552
On May 24 2013 15:38 thefreed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 15:36 Ryuu314 wrote:
On May 24 2013 15:35 BackSideAttack wrote:
wtf that western bias, how is troll beating diamond an upset....there is no underdog in the situation

well most people regardless of region consider Insec and Diamond the top 2 junglers


Honestly I don't see what's so good about Insec, I think Helios or Cloudtemplar might be better.


Insec is almost equal to Diamond in how much of an influence he has in a game. He carries games.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
May 24 2013 06:40 GMT
#553
On May 24 2013 15:38 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 15:36 onlywonderboy wrote:
On May 24 2013 15:35 NeoIllusions wrote:
CS didn't matter. saint's mechanics lulz but more importantly, turrets give CS.
If saint just landed his shit...

Have you tried to land a Heimer grenade recently? Shits hard.

Easier with his ulti up (improved projectile speed).

It was a good effort (though saint missing lane cs made me somewhat sad). Was closer then people made it out to be.

Was just being cheeky :p

But I do have a hard time hitting it even after playing him so many times in ARAMs lol
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
BackSideAttack
Profile Joined December 2010
1103 Posts
May 24 2013 06:40 GMT
#554
On May 24 2013 15:37 NeoIllusions wrote:
I don't think Troll is at the same level as Diamond/inSec yet.


Regardless of the score of this tourney, I still consider Troll just as good if not better than insec and diamondprox.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
May 24 2013 06:41 GMT
#555
DAT RIV COMMENT LOL
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
May 24 2013 06:41 GMT
#556
OMG woke up abit too late, did I miss anything exciting? :D
GO DIAMONDEZZ
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-24 06:42:31
May 24 2013 06:41 GMT
#557
On May 24 2013 15:40 BackSideAttack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 15:37 NeoIllusions wrote:
I don't think Troll is at the same level as Diamond/inSec yet.


Regardless of the score of this tourney, I still consider Troll just as good if not better than insec and diamondprox.

Haven't seen any good VoDs of him. Can you point me towards some? In comparison, InSec and Diamond have more exposure and people have clear examples of their presence.

EDIT: Caitlyn mirror. Huh.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
May 24 2013 06:41 GMT
#558
I really enjoy that quinn ban. Quinn's ranges are all over the place. Riot caved in hard with this champion.
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
May 24 2013 06:42 GMT
#559
CloudTemplar on Troll and Diamondprox.

"Troll is a complete jungler, the best in China. He has good map awareness, knows how to play aggressively, knows how to control the tempo, and it's not as if he has bad mechanics at all."

"Diamondprox is very animalistic in his playstyle. He doesn't research in depth, but prefers to take a instinctive approach when choosing a certain playstyle, predicting his enemies, and selecting his champions. It means that he does very well when his instincts are right, but also fails spectacularly when his predictions are off. He doesn't have the best mechanics, but it is true that every champion he selects will be played throughout the world the very next day."
TL+ Member
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
May 24 2013 06:42 GMT
#560
Ok. I want a double-Ace in the Hole death.
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
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