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Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
May 25 2013 07:56 GMT
#2801
On May 25 2013 16:55 Artok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 16:53 Leeto wrote:
That was pretty crazy. EU and NA all star teams seem pretty well matched in terms of skill.

both terrible >.<


Yes but one side has the benefit of low expectations!
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
AA.spoon
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium331 Posts
May 25 2013 07:57 GMT
#2802
On May 25 2013 16:54 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 16:53 Caphe wrote:
On May 25 2013 16:50 Disengaged wrote:
On May 25 2013 16:50 Lysanias wrote:
On May 25 2013 16:49 Shikyo wrote:
Did EU just get 4-0d in 5v4?


Yes please look at Yellowpete's derping around there. o0


yellowpete shouldnt even be there.

stupid riot rule -_-

I am pretty sure I can play a better MF than Yellowpete at that fight in the jungle there.
Worst ADC in this Allstar.

ADC is EU's worst role, I think they would have the weakest ADC no matter who they sent.

ADC is EU's worst role, i agree. But there are better adc then yellopete: genja, candypanda, yellowstar etc. In fact, eg botlane always get carried by froggen/(wicked).
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 25 2013 07:57 GMT
#2803
What's impressive in retrospect is how hard EU appeared to have outdrafted NA and yet...
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
SimulatedAnneal
Profile Joined March 2012
765 Posts
May 25 2013 07:57 GMT
#2804
On May 25 2013 16:54 Caphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 16:52 ketchup wrote:
On May 25 2013 16:50 Caphe wrote:
Damn, EU just tunnel to the Nexus, I meant AlexIch can just start pushing top. While you want to backdoor when the whole other team was at the middle of the map.


You missed something. Alex was trying to backdoor tele into NA base, but NA had a ward there which caught him out. Alex did not know this, and this allowed him to be caught off guard.

Thats what I meant. TF was trying so hard on backdoor the Nexus while he should pushing top lane. NA was really afraid of the backdoor so there is no way you can success.
Just play it out, let NA off their guard and then go backdoor. Alex was trying to backdoor right after he respawn. WTF.


As soon as the inhib respawns, they're in serious trouble. They absolutely could not go slow there.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 25 2013 07:58 GMT
#2805
HotGirlNidaleeGG
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
May 25 2013 07:58 GMT
#2806
On May 25 2013 16:56 Nitan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 16:55 Artok wrote:
On May 25 2013 16:53 Leeto wrote:
That was pretty crazy. EU and NA all star teams seem pretty well matched in terms of skill.

both terrible >.<


Yes but one side has the benefit of low expectations!

Also NA fans have been taking a whole bunch of shit while EU fans have been some of the people dishing it out, despite not being on par with the Asians themselves. This is fucking sweet.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
May 25 2013 07:58 GMT
#2807
On May 25 2013 16:57 AsmodeusXI wrote:
What's impressive in retrospect is how hard EU appeared to have outdrafted NA and yet...


AD in mid tactic just shut down what ever Alex would pick, i guess that's why Double lift went with an AD with an escape.
Makes sense now.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 25 2013 07:58 GMT
#2808
On May 25 2013 16:57 SimulatedAnneal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 16:54 Caphe wrote:
On May 25 2013 16:52 ketchup wrote:
On May 25 2013 16:50 Caphe wrote:
Damn, EU just tunnel to the Nexus, I meant AlexIch can just start pushing top. While you want to backdoor when the whole other team was at the middle of the map.


You missed something. Alex was trying to backdoor tele into NA base, but NA had a ward there which caught him out. Alex did not know this, and this allowed him to be caught off guard.

Thats what I meant. TF was trying so hard on backdoor the Nexus while he should pushing top lane. NA was really afraid of the backdoor so there is no way you can success.
Just play it out, let NA off their guard and then go backdoor. Alex was trying to backdoor right after he respawn. WTF.


As soon as the inhib respawns, they're in serious trouble. They absolutely could not go slow there.

Isn't it 5min?

I've played for 3+ years and still don't remember when inhibitor respawns, go me
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6430 Posts
May 25 2013 07:58 GMT
#2809
On May 25 2013 16:57 AsmodeusXI wrote:
What's impressive in retrospect is how hard EU appeared to have outdrafted NA and yet...

no they didn't. "gg NA outpicked lol" is spammed every single match. stop believing everything you read.
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
May 25 2013 07:59 GMT
#2810
On May 25 2013 16:55 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 16:54 onlywonderboy wrote:
On May 25 2013 16:53 Caphe wrote:
On May 25 2013 16:50 Disengaged wrote:
On May 25 2013 16:50 Lysanias wrote:
On May 25 2013 16:49 Shikyo wrote:
Did EU just get 4-0d in 5v4?


Yes please look at Yellowpete's derping around there. o0


yellowpete shouldnt even be there.

stupid riot rule -_-

I am pretty sure I can play a better MF than Yellowpete at that fight in the jungle there.
Worst ADC in this Allstar.

ADC is EU's worst role, I think they would have the weakest ADC no matter who they sent.

Yes, but they basically sent the weakest player for their weakest role. 230 minions at 34min is ridiculously bad.


I say it every time yellowpete plays but that is called farm allocation. It has nothing to do with Pete and everything to do with the team. Yellowpete gets far too much crap, he's probably the best AD carry EU (which isn't really saying much I'll admit).
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
Artok
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands2219 Posts
May 25 2013 07:59 GMT
#2811
On May 25 2013 16:56 Nitan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 16:55 Artok wrote:
On May 25 2013 16:53 Leeto wrote:
That was pretty crazy. EU and NA all star teams seem pretty well matched in terms of skill.

both terrible >.<


Yes but one side has the benefit of low expectations!

who expected anything out of eu with no practice and no english? In the end both getting rolled by asia
Chun-li since ST
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 25 2013 07:59 GMT
#2812
On May 25 2013 16:59 TheLink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 16:55 Shikyo wrote:
On May 25 2013 16:54 onlywonderboy wrote:
On May 25 2013 16:53 Caphe wrote:
On May 25 2013 16:50 Disengaged wrote:
On May 25 2013 16:50 Lysanias wrote:
On May 25 2013 16:49 Shikyo wrote:
Did EU just get 4-0d in 5v4?


Yes please look at Yellowpete's derping around there. o0


yellowpete shouldnt even be there.

stupid riot rule -_-

I am pretty sure I can play a better MF than Yellowpete at that fight in the jungle there.
Worst ADC in this Allstar.

ADC is EU's worst role, I think they would have the weakest ADC no matter who they sent.

Yes, but they basically sent the weakest player for their weakest role. 230 minions at 34min is ridiculously bad.


I say it every time yellowpete plays but that is called farm allocation. It has nothing to do with Pete and everything to do with the team. Yellowpete gets far too much crap, he's probably the best AD carry EU (which isn't really saying much I'll admit).

So on a freefarm lane they allocated 50 less minions to yellowpete than doublelift?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-25 08:00:47
May 25 2013 07:59 GMT
#2813
There was a lot of little things too. Saint actually outjungled Diamond pretty hard this game. Diamond was completely zoned from being able to do anything for most of early game. NA's first 15 minutes was crisp as hell. Notice that Diamond was NEVER able to go bot to pressure the 3v1 on Scarra.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-25 08:02:07
May 25 2013 08:00 GMT
#2814
On May 25 2013 16:58 caelym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 16:57 AsmodeusXI wrote:
What's impressive in retrospect is how hard EU appeared to have outdrafted NA and yet...

no they didn't. "gg NA outpicked lol" is spammed every single match. stop believing everything you read.


Errr... I personally thought EU had a stronger comp.

If you're interested in explaining to me why I'm wrong, I'm all ears.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
May 25 2013 08:00 GMT
#2815
On May 25 2013 16:58 caelym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 16:57 AsmodeusXI wrote:
What's impressive in retrospect is how hard EU appeared to have outdrafted NA and yet...

no they didn't. "gg NA outpicked lol" is spammed every single match. stop believing everything you read.

I think EU had a really good team comp, NA just got out to an early lead and never let up.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
May 25 2013 08:00 GMT
#2816
Man I'm a dickhead for not whitelisting Riot on twitch before today. I sry Riot and Twitch.
Retvrn to Forvms
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
May 25 2013 08:01 GMT
#2817
On May 25 2013 16:59 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 16:59 TheLink wrote:
On May 25 2013 16:55 Shikyo wrote:
On May 25 2013 16:54 onlywonderboy wrote:
On May 25 2013 16:53 Caphe wrote:
On May 25 2013 16:50 Disengaged wrote:
On May 25 2013 16:50 Lysanias wrote:
On May 25 2013 16:49 Shikyo wrote:
Did EU just get 4-0d in 5v4?


Yes please look at Yellowpete's derping around there. o0


yellowpete shouldnt even be there.

stupid riot rule -_-

I am pretty sure I can play a better MF than Yellowpete at that fight in the jungle there.
Worst ADC in this Allstar.

ADC is EU's worst role, I think they would have the weakest ADC no matter who they sent.

Yes, but they basically sent the weakest player for their weakest role. 230 minions at 34min is ridiculously bad.


I say it every time yellowpete plays but that is called farm allocation. It has nothing to do with Pete and everything to do with the team. Yellowpete gets far too much crap, he's probably the best AD carry EU (which isn't really saying much I'll admit).

So on a freefarm lane they allocated 50 less minions to yellowpete than doublelift?


Graves waveclears much faster than MF and had access to wolves and wraiths so yes. I stand by my point.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
May 25 2013 08:02 GMT
#2818
On May 25 2013 16:58 caelym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 16:57 AsmodeusXI wrote:
What's impressive in retrospect is how hard EU appeared to have outdrafted NA and yet...

no they didn't. "gg NA outpicked lol" is spammed every single match. stop believing everything you read.

I kinda liked some of EU's picks but to me it seemed like they sent them to the wrong lanes, lol. Zac is not that dominant from jungle, he should go to solo lane, Elise works best in jungle and really shines as support only in top-bottom laneswaps and Jayce really works the best from middle lane imo :D
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
SimulatedAnneal
Profile Joined March 2012
765 Posts
May 25 2013 08:02 GMT
#2819
On May 25 2013 16:58 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 16:57 SimulatedAnneal wrote:
On May 25 2013 16:54 Caphe wrote:
On May 25 2013 16:52 ketchup wrote:
On May 25 2013 16:50 Caphe wrote:
Damn, EU just tunnel to the Nexus, I meant AlexIch can just start pushing top. While you want to backdoor when the whole other team was at the middle of the map.


You missed something. Alex was trying to backdoor tele into NA base, but NA had a ward there which caught him out. Alex did not know this, and this allowed him to be caught off guard.

Thats what I meant. TF was trying so hard on backdoor the Nexus while he should pushing top lane. NA was really afraid of the backdoor so there is no way you can success.
Just play it out, let NA off their guard and then go backdoor. Alex was trying to backdoor right after he respawn. WTF.


As soon as the inhib respawns, they're in serious trouble. They absolutely could not go slow there.

Isn't it 5min?

I've played for 3+ years and still don't remember when inhibitor respawns, go me


They had ~1 minute left on the respawn when Alex made his move. When Soaz died there were about 10 seconds left. They really were out of options at that point.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 25 2013 08:03 GMT
#2820
On May 25 2013 17:01 TheLink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 16:59 Shikyo wrote:
On May 25 2013 16:59 TheLink wrote:
On May 25 2013 16:55 Shikyo wrote:
On May 25 2013 16:54 onlywonderboy wrote:
On May 25 2013 16:53 Caphe wrote:
On May 25 2013 16:50 Disengaged wrote:
On May 25 2013 16:50 Lysanias wrote:
On May 25 2013 16:49 Shikyo wrote:
Did EU just get 4-0d in 5v4?


Yes please look at Yellowpete's derping around there. o0


yellowpete shouldnt even be there.

stupid riot rule -_-

I am pretty sure I can play a better MF than Yellowpete at that fight in the jungle there.
Worst ADC in this Allstar.

ADC is EU's worst role, I think they would have the weakest ADC no matter who they sent.

Yes, but they basically sent the weakest player for their weakest role. 230 minions at 34min is ridiculously bad.


I say it every time yellowpete plays but that is called farm allocation. It has nothing to do with Pete and everything to do with the team. Yellowpete gets far too much crap, he's probably the best AD carry EU (which isn't really saying much I'll admit).

So on a freefarm lane they allocated 50 less minions to yellowpete than doublelift?


Graves waveclears much faster than MF and had access to wolves and wraiths so yes. I stand by my point.

If doublelift moved to EU and became the new ADC for EG, do you think that EG would make him #3?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
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