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ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
April 06 2013 19:28 GMT
#361
On April 07 2013 04:23 Keniji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 04:03 ExoFun wrote:
On April 07 2013 03:59 Fusilero wrote:
On April 07 2013 03:58 ExoFun wrote:
On April 07 2013 03:54 Djin)ftw( wrote:
On April 07 2013 03:44 wei2coolman wrote:
Yellowpete is literally a tier below like half the players in the ADC roles in EU.


Hm, his mechanics are really really solid. I dont think he is that bad.

And still Yellowpete got the most votes @ Allstars for EU.

WE need the chernobyl Genja on that spot!

F00k that we need hosan so that he and edward can welcome Wexaio to the league of draven.

You saw those Hosan tristana jumps? He is a tier below our beloved leader Genja.


Not with draven tho. A edward thresh/hosan draven lane would be crazy.

do you know what is crazy? Ban phase.
Schnake
Profile Joined September 2003
Germany2819 Posts
April 06 2013 20:15 GMT
#362
On April 07 2013 04:23 Keniji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 04:03 ExoFun wrote:
On April 07 2013 03:59 Fusilero wrote:
On April 07 2013 03:58 ExoFun wrote:
On April 07 2013 03:54 Djin)ftw( wrote:
On April 07 2013 03:44 wei2coolman wrote:
Yellowpete is literally a tier below like half the players in the ADC roles in EU.


Hm, his mechanics are really really solid. I dont think he is that bad.

And still Yellowpete got the most votes @ Allstars for EU.

WE need the chernobyl Genja on that spot!

F00k that we need hosan so that he and edward can welcome Wexaio to the league of draven.

You saw those Hosan tristana jumps? He is a tier below our beloved leader Genja.


Not with draven tho. A edward thresh/hosan draven lane would be crazy.

All the games I have seen Hosan play Draven he was fantastic. Would be very interesting to see a very aggressive ad with an aggressive support such as Edward.
"Alán Shore" and "August Terran" @ LoL EUW - liquidparty
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 06 2013 20:16 GMT
#363
On April 07 2013 03:52 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 03:44 wei2coolman wrote:
Yellowpete is literally a tier below like half the players in the ADC roles in EU.


hard to shine on that team as an adc, the horse has been beaten to death on this topic but he's not their #1 farm priority by a longshot, and Krepo is no nRated/Edward.

tbh the worst adc in EU might be Yellowstar but his team just makes him look good week in and week out. Like think about Fnatic, when's the last time you remember them winning a game where Soaz, xPeke or both weren't huge? Rekkles.


Not fair to compare anyone EU to Rekkles though. For the few months we got to see him he was clearly in the top tier in the world.
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cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
April 06 2013 20:22 GMT
#364
On April 07 2013 05:16 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 03:52 Slusher wrote:
On April 07 2013 03:44 wei2coolman wrote:
Yellowpete is literally a tier below like half the players in the ADC roles in EU.


hard to shine on that team as an adc, the horse has been beaten to death on this topic but he's not their #1 farm priority by a longshot, and Krepo is no nRated/Edward.

tbh the worst adc in EU might be Yellowstar but his team just makes him look good week in and week out. Like think about Fnatic, when's the last time you remember them winning a game where Soaz, xPeke or both weren't huge? Rekkles.


Not fair to compare anyone EU to Rekkles though. For the few months we got to see him he was clearly in the top tier in the world.


When's the last time? Not with Rekkles either, unless u count the game where he took every killing blow instead of them.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
April 06 2013 21:34 GMT
#365
On April 07 2013 05:22 cascades wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 05:16 cLutZ wrote:
On April 07 2013 03:52 Slusher wrote:
On April 07 2013 03:44 wei2coolman wrote:
Yellowpete is literally a tier below like half the players in the ADC roles in EU.


hard to shine on that team as an adc, the horse has been beaten to death on this topic but he's not their #1 farm priority by a longshot, and Krepo is no nRated/Edward.

tbh the worst adc in EU might be Yellowstar but his team just makes him look good week in and week out. Like think about Fnatic, when's the last time you remember them winning a game where Soaz, xPeke or both weren't huge? Rekkles.


Not fair to compare anyone EU to Rekkles though. For the few months we got to see him he was clearly in the top tier in the world.


When's the last time? Not with Rekkles either, unless u count the game where he took every killing blow instead of them.



That's what I thought too. Notice that it's not coincidence Fnatic is doing well with or without him. They've just upgraded their play to an overall strong team.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
April 06 2013 23:51 GMT
#366
On April 07 2013 06:34 KissBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 05:22 cascades wrote:
On April 07 2013 05:16 cLutZ wrote:
On April 07 2013 03:52 Slusher wrote:
On April 07 2013 03:44 wei2coolman wrote:
Yellowpete is literally a tier below like half the players in the ADC roles in EU.


hard to shine on that team as an adc, the horse has been beaten to death on this topic but he's not their #1 farm priority by a longshot, and Krepo is no nRated/Edward.

tbh the worst adc in EU might be Yellowstar but his team just makes him look good week in and week out. Like think about Fnatic, when's the last time you remember them winning a game where Soaz, xPeke or both weren't huge? Rekkles.


Not fair to compare anyone EU to Rekkles though. For the few months we got to see him he was clearly in the top tier in the world.


When's the last time? Not with Rekkles either, unless u count the game where he took every killing blow instead of them.



That's what I thought too. Notice that it's not coincidence Fnatic is doing well with or without him. They've just upgraded their play to an overall strong team.


I actually mostly agree with you. I still feel like he had more impact than yellowstar.
Carrilord has arrived.
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
April 07 2013 00:43 GMT
#367
Oh hello EG curse.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
April 07 2013 01:49 GMT
#368
On April 07 2013 05:22 cascades wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 05:16 cLutZ wrote:
On April 07 2013 03:52 Slusher wrote:
On April 07 2013 03:44 wei2coolman wrote:
Yellowpete is literally a tier below like half the players in the ADC roles in EU.


hard to shine on that team as an adc, the horse has been beaten to death on this topic but he's not their #1 farm priority by a longshot, and Krepo is no nRated/Edward.

tbh the worst adc in EU might be Yellowstar but his team just makes him look good week in and week out. Like think about Fnatic, when's the last time you remember them winning a game where Soaz, xPeke or both weren't huge? Rekkles.


Not fair to compare anyone EU to Rekkles though. For the few months we got to see him he was clearly in the top tier in the world.


When's the last time? Not with Rekkles either, unless u count the game where he took every killing blow instead of them.

iunno...tbh the last time I saw Rekkles play with Fnatic I was jsut very unimpressed with his play. Iirc he never really won his lane and got most of his farm post-laning by having his team hold off 4v5 and/or him getting all the last hits in skirmishes.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
April 07 2013 01:55 GMT
#369
On April 07 2013 09:43 Thrill wrote:
Oh hello EG curse.

Oh my god, LOL

Seriously though, what is Lux's Winning% in LCS? It has to be incredibly low o.o
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
April 07 2013 02:14 GMT
#370
On April 07 2013 10:49 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 05:22 cascades wrote:
On April 07 2013 05:16 cLutZ wrote:
On April 07 2013 03:52 Slusher wrote:
On April 07 2013 03:44 wei2coolman wrote:
Yellowpete is literally a tier below like half the players in the ADC roles in EU.


hard to shine on that team as an adc, the horse has been beaten to death on this topic but he's not their #1 farm priority by a longshot, and Krepo is no nRated/Edward.

tbh the worst adc in EU might be Yellowstar but his team just makes him look good week in and week out. Like think about Fnatic, when's the last time you remember them winning a game where Soaz, xPeke or both weren't huge? Rekkles.


Not fair to compare anyone EU to Rekkles though. For the few months we got to see him he was clearly in the top tier in the world.


When's the last time? Not with Rekkles either, unless u count the game where he took every killing blow instead of them.

iunno...tbh the last time I saw Rekkles play with Fnatic I was jsut very unimpressed with his play. Iirc he never really won his lane and got most of his farm post-laning by having his team hold off 4v5 and/or him getting all the last hits in skirmishes.

So....CLG?
yrag89
Profile Joined July 2008
Malaysia315 Posts
April 07 2013 02:43 GMT
#371
EG curse exist in LoL too

CURSED
secondly morrow is a korean pro who plays terran what the hell did you expect lol - charlie420247
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
April 07 2013 02:53 GMT
#372
As much as I want to agree with you guys on Yellowpete/Krepo not being a bad botlane I just can't. Pete and Krepo basically never win their lane. This has been a problem ever since their formation, in season 2 it wasn't so bad because whilst pete and krepo lose thier lane - snoopeh/wickd/froggen could carry EG and eventually minimize the impact that the loss of lane had. Furthermore there were numerous examples in where even in season 2 that CLGeu lost games due to thier botlane being sub par (for example the aaa games where nRated just roamed top and yellowstar 1v2ed Krepo and Yellowpete or the tpa game where froggen basically won vs toyz but pete and krepo were just simply destroyed 2v2 against bebe and mistake). Now that snoopeh has minimal impact it's just become worse.
Go go Alliance.
Flicky
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2669 Posts
April 07 2013 09:24 GMT
#373
On April 07 2013 10:49 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 05:22 cascades wrote:
On April 07 2013 05:16 cLutZ wrote:
On April 07 2013 03:52 Slusher wrote:
On April 07 2013 03:44 wei2coolman wrote:
Yellowpete is literally a tier below like half the players in the ADC roles in EU.


hard to shine on that team as an adc, the horse has been beaten to death on this topic but he's not their #1 farm priority by a longshot, and Krepo is no nRated/Edward.

tbh the worst adc in EU might be Yellowstar but his team just makes him look good week in and week out. Like think about Fnatic, when's the last time you remember them winning a game where Soaz, xPeke or both weren't huge? Rekkles.


Not fair to compare anyone EU to Rekkles though. For the few months we got to see him he was clearly in the top tier in the world.


When's the last time? Not with Rekkles either, unless u count the game where he took every killing blow instead of them.

iunno...tbh the last time I saw Rekkles play with Fnatic I was jsut very unimpressed with his play. Iirc he never really won his lane and got most of his farm post-laning by having his team hold off 4v5 and/or him getting all the last hits in skirmishes.


As far as laning goes, he was nothing special. The difference with him and a lot of other euro carries at the time is that Fnatic could leave Rekkles alone lane for him to split push, 1v1, make plays and pressure which is something very few other Euro carries do. HoSan does it on Draven, Jimbz does it when he gets Kennen. You might see YellowStar doing it on MF but aside from a smattering of other appearances, it's not a common sight for the european fan. I don't know about other people but I think that Europe's AD carries aren't quite there yet with a lot of teams. They're either too champion dependant or reliant on someone else to make the plays.
Liquipedia"I was seriously looking for a black guy" - MrHoon
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
April 07 2013 10:17 GMT
#374
"1: Why am I not playing as good as I was in season 2.
I hear a lot of speculations that it's because my champion pool isn't big enough and other silly things. So my champion pool is actually bigger than ever and I can easily play more than 10 heroes on a competitive level. The problem is quite simple. My individual skill level has decreased because i'm not playing enough. At home I used to easily play more than 10 hours a day and now I only play around 5 hours per day. It's a huge difference and i am gonna start playing a more solo queue."
- from Wickd his FB.

Oh yeah, progamers for sure. Such a disgrace to only practice 5 hours a day. After S2 they already showed that CLG.EU/EG was all practice. Cant win like that. Guess getting too much of that sweet EG money hinders practice. Thats not a curse, thats overpaying your players instead of stimulating them.
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
April 07 2013 10:21 GMT
#375
the funniest part is that he is playng 10 hours at home but plays 5 hours in a gaming house in the middle of the season after they have performed like shit for weeks. makes me really angry.

And the "pls don't trashtalk us" is just hilarious.

ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
April 07 2013 10:32 GMT
#376
On April 07 2013 19:17 Beyonder wrote:
"1: Why am I not playing as good as I was in season 2.
I hear a lot of speculations that it's because my champion pool isn't big enough and other silly things. So my champion pool is actually bigger than ever and I can easily play more than 10 heroes on a competitive level. The problem is quite simple. My individual skill level has decreased because i'm not playing enough. At home I used to easily play more than 10 hours a day and now I only play around 5 hours per day. It's a huge difference and i am gonna start playing a more solo queue."
- from Wickd his FB.

Oh yeah, progamers for sure. Such a disgrace to only practice 5 hours a day. After S2 they already showed that CLG.EU/EG was all practice. Cant win like that. Guess getting too much of that sweet EG money hinders practice. Thats not a curse, thats overpaying your players instead of stimulating them.

Yea those progamers have such a busy and hard life.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-07 11:56:51
April 07 2013 11:55 GMT
#377
Not sure what the problem with his post is. At least he is perfectly honest.
This quote is also interesting:

Also our teamfights have gotten a lot worse and people feel less confident due to that. That makes it a lot harder to start a teamfight because you aren't sure if your teammates will follow up in time. It's one of the reasons that we make a lot less plays and overall play too careful. It's the same reason why split pushing is so good against us atm. No one in the team feels 100% confident in themself and dislike having to take a 1 versus 1 all in mid/late game.


Shows the overall strongly decreased confidence in the team. Basically he confirmed all the points I made earlier regarding lacking confidence and the 5 hours of play in EG.
Off-season = best season
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-07 11:56:25
April 07 2013 11:56 GMT
#378
EG at his finest
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
April 07 2013 11:58 GMT
#379
No exciting matches for today

Bjergsen vs Alexich should be fun though.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
April 07 2013 12:00 GMT
#380
On April 07 2013 19:17 Beyonder wrote:
"1: Why am I not playing as good as I was in season 2.
I hear a lot of speculations that it's because my champion pool isn't big enough and other silly things. So my champion pool is actually bigger than ever and I can easily play more than 10 heroes on a competitive level. The problem is quite simple. My individual skill level has decreased because i'm not playing enough. At home I used to easily play more than 10 hours a day and now I only play around 5 hours per day. It's a huge difference and i am gonna start playing a more solo queue."
- from Wickd his FB.

Oh yeah, progamers for sure. Such a disgrace to only practice 5 hours a day. After S2 they already showed that CLG.EU/EG was all practice. Cant win like that. Guess getting too much of that sweet EG money hinders practice. Thats not a curse, thats overpaying your players instead of stimulating them.


I always thought that was what the EG curse was anyway ? Being overpayed that is, honestly what bothers me most is that there seems 0 presure on them to perform from EG management themselfs. Getting the big pay is fine and all but if you go down on practice by 50% you simply deserve to be at the bottom of the pool.
they should have a look at Gambit Gaming and see what those guys do for money.
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