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Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-17 12:27:06
May 17 2013 12:26 GMT
#1381
Not going to quote that monstrous formatting but I feel like Sword was too far behind to win the 4v5 reliably.
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
May 17 2013 12:27 GMT
#1382
Tresh wasnt picked or banned, what is this even ...
KCCO!
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
May 17 2013 12:28 GMT
#1383
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 17 2013 12:28 GMT
#1384
All the kills and gold was on RapidStar. I would say it would be much more difficult if 2 or 3 Frost players were more evenly fed. I'd expect Korean teams to know how to handle that kind of situation better and make the appropriate plays.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 17 2013 12:30 GMT
#1385
On May 17 2013 21:25 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 21:23 Sufficiency wrote:
On May 17 2013 21:20 Martijn wrote:
On May 17 2013 21:16 Sufficiency wrote:
On May 17 2013 21:13 Wetty wrote:
On May 17 2013 21:11 Sufficiency wrote:
That game was over as soon as the bottom lane 3-0.


Im not so sure about that - sword had a really tanky team that had solid late game potential. If they didnt have a huge difference coming into late game, then Frost would have needed perfect ult combos always to take them down.

Frost did carry that lead through nicely though, so it's moot.


I feel that the current meta just doesn't allow that kind of comebacks. As soon as you lose 3 kills + tower, you lose a huge amount of map control and the other team will run all over the map while you can't get any dragons at all.

I donno. I think dragon gold should be slightly reduced.


Meh, I don't want every game to last 50+ minutes. If you get such a lead early and you still don't get an advantage you can snowball off, we'll have nothing but full endgame comps again.


So the problem is that after the triple kill, CT repeatedly got caught yet Frost easily maintained the lead.


Isn't that more of Sword's fault for not taking advantage of the multiple opportunities for a 4v5?


Maybe. But then again, dragon was always dead.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 17 2013 12:30 GMT
#1386
3-0 for Blue side thus far.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Martijn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
May 17 2013 12:31 GMT
#1387
On May 17 2013 21:23 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 21:20 Martijn wrote:
On May 17 2013 21:16 Sufficiency wrote:
On May 17 2013 21:13 Wetty wrote:
On May 17 2013 21:11 Sufficiency wrote:
That game was over as soon as the bottom lane 3-0.


Im not so sure about that - sword had a really tanky team that had solid late game potential. If they didnt have a huge difference coming into late game, then Frost would have needed perfect ult combos always to take them down.

Frost did carry that lead through nicely though, so it's moot.


I feel that the current meta just doesn't allow that kind of comebacks. As soon as you lose 3 kills + tower, you lose a huge amount of map control and the other team will run all over the map while you can't get any dragons at all.

I donno. I think dragon gold should be slightly reduced.


Meh, I don't want every game to last 50+ minutes. If you get such a lead early and you still don't get an advantage you can snowball off, we'll have nothing but full endgame comps again.


So the problem is that after the triple kill, CT repeatedly got caught yet Frost easily maintained the lead.


I think you're not giving credit to how close that game actually was. Diana was going to fall flat, Zac and if Cho had actually gotten going would've soon been unkillable and Cait was about to outscale MF. If it had gone on a bit longer, that would've definitely swung the other way.
http://www.glhf.tv fighting! Former WesternWolves & LowLandLions operations manager.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 17 2013 12:31 GMT
#1388
On May 17 2013 21:30 NeoIllusions wrote:
3-0 for Blue side thus far.


I'm fine with 4-0 as long as this goes to Game 5.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-17 12:32:37
May 17 2013 12:32 GMT
#1389
It's curious that it's Sword that initiated the lane swap this game, considering they're Blue side.

@Asmo: 3-1 plz
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-17 12:35:25
May 17 2013 12:33 GMT
#1390
On May 17 2013 21:32 NeoIllusions wrote:
It's curious that it's Sword that initiated the lane swap this game, considering they're Blue side.

@Asmo: 3-1 plz


They just guessed that frost would try to 2v2 since they are a lot stronger so they swapped.The mindgames are op.

Also it's really weird to me that hermes has ran ignite on mf so far.I really don't understand why lol.He could really use the cleanse/barrier for zed late game >.>.
Martijn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
May 17 2013 12:33 GMT
#1391
Frost with a total "press R" comp ;p
http://www.glhf.tv fighting! Former WesternWolves & LowLandLions operations manager.
Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
May 17 2013 12:34 GMT
#1392
I'm wish asmo on this one, blind pick please D:
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
May 17 2013 12:36 GMT
#1393
On May 17 2013 21:32 NeoIllusions wrote:
It's curious that it's Sword that initiated the lane swap this game, considering they're Blue side.

@Asmo: 3-1 plz


Why would you not go to a game 5? Hand in your fancard sir
KCCO!
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 17 2013 12:36 GMT
#1394
On May 17 2013 21:34 Serelitz wrote:
I'm wish asmo on this one, blind pick please D:


Oh right... I did forget about that rule... well, w/e. -_-; Rubber match OP.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 17 2013 12:36 GMT
#1395
On May 17 2013 21:36 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 21:32 NeoIllusions wrote:
It's curious that it's Sword that initiated the lane swap this game, considering they're Blue side.

@Asmo: 3-1 plz


Why would you not go to a game 5? Hand in your fancard sir

Why would I hand in my Frost fancard? @_@
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 17 2013 12:38 GMT
#1396
On May 17 2013 21:36 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 21:36 ihasaKAROT wrote:
On May 17 2013 21:32 NeoIllusions wrote:
It's curious that it's Sword that initiated the lane swap this game, considering they're Blue side.

@Asmo: 3-1 plz


Why would you not go to a game 5? Hand in your fancard sir

Why would I hand in my Frost fancard? @_@


Because any true LoL fan wants THE MOST GAMEZ.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Martijn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
May 17 2013 12:42 GMT
#1397
Get some MR and keep pressure on that MF! Sword is in so much trouble right now.
http://www.glhf.tv fighting! Former WesternWolves & LowLandLions operations manager.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
May 17 2013 12:42 GMT
#1398
i think i just heard lulu's voice. *Suddenly reminds detective lulu video*

Shy shows why he is the best top laner in KR
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
May 17 2013 12:43 GMT
#1399
On May 17 2013 21:38 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 21:36 NeoIllusions wrote:
On May 17 2013 21:36 ihasaKAROT wrote:
On May 17 2013 21:32 NeoIllusions wrote:
It's curious that it's Sword that initiated the lane swap this game, considering they're Blue side.

@Asmo: 3-1 plz


Why would you not go to a game 5? Hand in your fancard sir

Why would I hand in my Frost fancard? @_@


Because any true LoL fan wants THE MOST GAMEZ.


Especially when it's as high quality as this! :o
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 17 2013 12:44 GMT
#1400
Shy SO scary.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
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