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On February 24 2013 06:52 dae wrote:
Fnatic had 2-3 people running gp10 masteries at the very least, prob quints.
They had almost 2k gold ahead from just gp10 pretty early, to be even in gold even while eg had more map objectives/kill early.
So what you're saying is that team stacking GP quints/masteries is OP? Better get this discussion to GD.
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That was an insane teamcomp beautifully designed to hardcounter EG's style. Kayle and Katarina is awesome. Leona and blitz too.
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very nice interview from nrated
gg fnatic.
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I really hope that LoL transitions more into the 1-5 positions of dota where same champs gets different farm depending on what their role is in a strat. Here the jungler played 3 while a Blitz top played 4 in Fnatic compared to how EG usually play with Froggen as 1, Wickd as 2 and Yellowpete as 3.
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Right, but a farmed Blitz is worse than a lot of other farmed top laners. An unfarmed Blitz is a lot better than a lot of other unfarmed top laners.
I also think the 1v2 lane was a mistake, for the same reason. Guess their idea was that Blitz was weak 1v2 but Soaz managed fine and didn't feed.
In terms of 1v1 Blitz is good but surely Renekton will do fine against him, can any champion at all reliably beat Renekton in lane in s3?
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kinda sad for the young fellas from Copenhagen wolves^^ even worse than vulcun/MRN, I wonder if CW would be easily top 3 in NA LCS.
hopefully they get their first win soon to get some morale boost^^
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Panth used to > Renekton, but there's no way he beats him with a mass consumables start. Panth not manaless.
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On February 24 2013 07:01 nxk wrote:Show nested quote +
Right, but a farmed Blitz is worse than a lot of other farmed top laners. An unfarmed Blitz is a lot better than a lot of other unfarmed top laners.
I also think the 1v2 lane was a mistake, for the same reason. Guess their idea was that Blitz was weak 1v2 but Soaz managed fine and didn't feed. In terms of 1v1 Blitz is good but surely Renekton will do fine against him, can any champion at all reliably beat Renekton in lane in s3?
there is no real reliable champion to pick to shut down Renekton, there is lots of champions that do okay or equal (obviously a few who struggle as well)
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On February 24 2013 07:03 AsnSensation wrote:
kinda sad for the young fellas from Copenhagen wolves^^ even worse than vulcun/MRN, I wonder if CW would be easily top 3 in NA LCS.
hopefully they get their first win soon to get some morale boost^^
NA hate is all good but a bit too much here  .Pretty sure they'd get beaten a lot as well.Unless their adc steps up and they stop fighting 2v3 behind turrets I don't see them winning lol.
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Fanatic def did their homework. What a beautiful designed comp. With Blitz they were also able to steal blue and deny that from Froggen. This reminds me a lot of GSL where u have these tailored strategies on certain maps / matchups.
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On February 24 2013 06:21 Lylat wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2013 06:13 Mensol wrote:On February 24 2013 06:12 sinii wrote:
Froggen gets Anivia, confused why Fanatic let it happen. Seems risky?
Going to be a very interesting game. xPeke can handle froggen's anivia. huehue quick question : did Froggen ever failed in a tournament game when he had Anivia ?
yes, he just did !
GGs fnatic, on top of the foreign world again.
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On February 24 2013 06:59 AsnSensation wrote:
very nice interview from nrated
gg fnatic.
Pretty much confirmed what a lot of us were thinking, they just read CLG EG like a book.
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On February 24 2013 07:01 nxk wrote:Show nested quote +
Right, but a farmed Blitz is worse than a lot of other farmed top laners. An unfarmed Blitz is a lot better than a lot of other unfarmed top laners.
I also think the 1v2 lane was a mistake, for the same reason. Guess their idea was that Blitz was weak 1v2 but Soaz managed fine and didn't feed. In terms of 1v1 Blitz is good but surely Renekton will do fine against him, can any champion at all reliably beat Renekton in lane in s3?
I'm think Blitz would have had a harder time 1v1 vs Renekton
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On February 24 2013 07:03 Alaric wrote:
Panth used to > Renekton, but there's no way he beats him with a mass consumables start. Panth not manaless.
Once they got 6 unless Panth engage with ult or poke Renek I'm pretty sure Renek pwn him in 1v1 thanks to his ult
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Yeah but the point with Panth is that by 6 you've already trashed your opponent. Pressure, kill or force back, snowball the tiniest advantages and then zone. His levels 1 and 3 are arguably stronger than Renek's, but now you can't put him at risk of dying so early anymore because he'll start mass pots, so added to his sustain, manaless status, and good base damage it makes him really safe, hard to push out of lane, while remaining very strong aggressively.
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On February 24 2013 07:39 Lylat wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2013 07:01 nxk wrote:
Right, but a farmed Blitz is worse than a lot of other farmed top laners. An unfarmed Blitz is a lot better than a lot of other unfarmed top laners.
I also think the 1v2 lane was a mistake, for the same reason. Guess their idea was that Blitz was weak 1v2 but Soaz managed fine and didn't feed. In terms of 1v1 Blitz is good but surely Renekton will do fine against him, can any champion at all reliably beat Renekton in lane in s3? I'm think Blitz would have had a harder time 1v1 vs Renekton
Yup. I think one of the keys to the strat was to keep blitz in the 2v1 lane so that the other 2v1 lane can pressure wickd
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Riven used to be able to beat renekton in lane because of her much lower cd's. I don't know about now though.
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On February 24 2013 07:40 Lylat wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2013 07:03 Alaric wrote:
Panth used to > Renekton, but there's no way he beats him with a mass consumables start. Panth not manaless. Once they got 6 unless Panth engage with ult or poke Renek I'm pretty sure Renek pwn him in 1v1 thanks to his ult
Panth can poke pretty hard without engaging and has a MS advantage on renekton. He doesn't just go straight in and try to 100-0 renek. Renek needs to E through creeps and again onto panth to make up that distance, and then probably doesn't have enough fury to do an empowered W or Q on panth.
The problem is, league of consumables means renek will just tank out panth's whole mana bar.
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