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Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-18 15:11:28
January 18 2013 15:10 GMT
#261
On January 19 2013 00:09 LaNague wrote:
rofl that monkey


He didn't even have cleaver yet. Lolol

Double Cleaver on Monkey and MF now. Dem ultis going to wreck.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 18 2013 15:11 GMT
#262
FUUU why a BC on MF? You already have one on Wu, dammit. What a waste, just get a LW if you want pen.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
January 18 2013 15:11 GMT
#263
Pardon me if I sound pretentious, but what we see here is the cold and hard difference between the skill of NA and Europe. Washed up players who don't try their hardest to improve (saint, elementz, cop) simply pale in comparison with everyone on MYM, but Curse is losing on overall team strategy and coordination as well, probably because they don't think about the game enough (or seriously enough). If Curse somehow manages to place highly in this tournament I will eat my words, but I do not see that happening. Curse is in my opinion a top 3 NA team and their showing provides a good glimpse into the EU vs NA ''war of the west'', and NA is clearly losing. (Nyjacky is obviously Curse's best player, which means that this isn't definite. But Rhux is playing the best on Curse right now, being 1/1 in a 11:2 game and staying decently well on CS despite his team having no map control whatsoever)
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
January 18 2013 15:12 GMT
#264
On January 19 2013 00:10 justiceknight wrote:
can any1 explain Voyboy's kat build and its effectiveness?


Nope. Its a horrible build. They have no damage now. Even IF kat gets reset, her damage is pretty much her base ability damage. Its not even going to scratch anyone when the warmogging starts
KCCO!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-18 15:12:35
January 18 2013 15:12 GMT
#265
On January 19 2013 00:10 justiceknight wrote:
can any1 explain Voyboy's kat build and its effectiveness?

Relies on "you can't kill me so I WILL have resets so my average damage WILL beat scaling through my reset spells base damage". Does even less until somebody dies (or even 2). Works better against team coordinated and bursty enough to take care of you.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
January 18 2013 15:12 GMT
#266
On January 19 2013 00:11 Alaric wrote:
FUUU why a BC on MF? You already have one on Wu, dammit. What a waste, just get a LW if you want pen.


Yeah you tell 'em. You know best.
Hey! How you doin'?
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
January 18 2013 15:13 GMT
#267
Wukong is damn good in team fight if you can get him out of his terrible laning phase which exactly what MYM did here. Can't see any chance for Curse this game,
Terran
DragoonTT
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
January 18 2013 15:13 GMT
#268
Voyboy is playing horribly. Not only did he set off the snowball due to lack of awareness, he's also stubbornly gone for this tank build and repeatedly got caught out and gave Wukong great initiation opportunities.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
January 18 2013 15:14 GMT
#269
Both games so far not even close o0.

Grats to MYM great play.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 18 2013 15:14 GMT
#270
MYM vs blaze will be fun at least.
Glorious SEA doto
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
January 18 2013 15:14 GMT
#271
SV with the classic NA BM. Lol.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
January 18 2013 15:14 GMT
#272
Man that was even more one sided than the Blaze game. Also yea Voyboys build is basically the pinnacle of "I got the reset". Rather useless build in my opinion. You basically playing 4v5 until an enemy dies.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
January 18 2013 15:15 GMT
#273
Warmogs Kat assumes you get a reset so it's sustained damage based off her base values and not assassin-y burst.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Lounge
Profile Joined November 2011
537 Posts
January 18 2013 15:15 GMT
#274
Both games had Amumu rush a Philo, and then proceed to get destroyed before they could become relevant. I'm not sure I understand it, it sets your weak early game even further behind.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
January 18 2013 15:15 GMT
#275
On January 19 2013 00:14 Lysanias wrote:
Both games so far not even close o0.

Grats to MYM great play.

Problem here is eventhough they lost M5/GBG actually has a plan with their team comp(mumu/MF/sona) while I see no plan on Curse team comp...
Terran
jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
January 18 2013 15:16 GMT
#276
Bugsplat OP, please fix.
CJ Entusman #50! #1 클템 fan TL!
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-18 15:18:57
January 18 2013 15:17 GMT
#277
On January 19 2013 00:15 Lounge wrote:
Both games had Amumu rush a Philo, and then proceed to get destroyed before they could become relevant. I'm not sure I understand it, it sets your weak early game even further behind.


Elementz likes his early Philo too. Crs stuck in S2 mindset. As support you need early sightstone. Saint would have done better to just get madred into sunfire/mogs/locket.

@Caphe:

Curse doesn't have drafts that well prepared I think. I know Saint really likes his Amumu, but it looks like they just pick each role to what the player feels most comfortable in, rather than playing a designed comp around an objective in tf (assassinating and resets/aoe lockdown/mass spam shields/etc). Asian teams are miles ahead in draft.
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Chemiczny84
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland458 Posts
January 18 2013 15:18 GMT
#278
wow, that was easy...
gg MYM can't wait for them vs blaze
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 18 2013 15:18 GMT
#279
On January 19 2013 00:12 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 00:11 Alaric wrote:
FUUU why a BC on MF? You already have one on Wu, dammit. What a waste, just get a LW if you want pen.


Yeah you tell 'em. You know best.

There are three big reasons I see this being worth it:
- the BC passive+10 ArPen beats LW pen (probably true here because 3 didn't build armour)
- Wu and MF ult different targets/enemy team splits up/Wukong gets picked off
- BC passive is critical (MF ults ticks twice as fast as Wukong's ult)
Reflecting back on it, the first point was probably true in that game because they were snowballing (the game shouldn't reach the point where the better+earlier %pen of LW will get significant) and only Katarina and Amumu really had armour, so it was prob. a sound decision.

I'll admit to having a knee-jerk reaction, but that's because BC doesn't always outperform LW, and still people always build the former over the latter.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
January 18 2013 15:19 GMT
#280
Kat' base damage is relatively low atm. There is no way that Kat can eventually start doing damage after resets. There is no damage on the team, its not going to reset. And then even IF she resets, shes gotta be near wukong and jayce to get things going. Both champions eat her alive.
KCCO!
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