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now there is music but where is the cool house music? :<
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Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
now there is music but where is the cool house music? :< | ||
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DragoonTT
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Carnivorous Sheep
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Koenig99
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Carnivorous Sheep
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AG looking strong/SKT looking very weak | ||
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DragoonTT
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FindMeInKenya
United States797 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Though I did think SKT was the 2nd weakest. | ||
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
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DragoonTT
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On January 17 2013 20:33 Caphe wrote: What server is this? Does SKT has some kind of lag or something？ Tuesday they said the games were played on the Taiwanese Tournament realm, if I remember correctly - supposedly the most balanced in ping, as everyone is below 100, or something. Damn SKT got massacred. 11-0 second game, 21 minute surrender. | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
On January 17 2013 20:22 TheYango wrote: Looks like I was wrong predicting AG to be the weakest team in group A. Though I did think SKT was the 2nd weakest. Meh SKT has always been a "get carried by Reapered or die" team; Mightily has just shown himself to be very weak, and their bot lane has shown great inflexibility transitioning smoothly from laning into midgame, and any team that has a semblance of midgame coordination like AG here can abuse it. Cologne was just SKT stomping a bunch of weak teams, I personally don't think it was indicative of strength on SKT's part. | ||
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
On January 17 2013 20:35 DragoonTT wrote: Tuesday they said the games were played on the Taiwanese Tournament realm, if I remember correctly - supposedly the most balanced in ping, as everyone is below 100, or something. Damn SKT got massacred. 11-0 second game, 21 minute surrender. Oh, thank you. I just want to eliminate lag/ping before regconize AG as a good team. Seems like lag/ping has nothing to do with the AG smash SKT1 in the 2nd game | ||
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DragoonTT
3398 Posts
On January 17 2013 20:41 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Meh SKT has always been a "get carried by Reapered or die" team; Mightily has just shown himself to be very weak, and their bot lane has shown great inflexibility transitioning smoothly from laning into midgame, and any team that has a semblance of midgame coordination like AG here can abuse it. Cologne was just SKT stomping a bunch of weak teams, I personally don't think it was indicative of strength on SKT's part. They qualified against OP and CJ and beat fnatic in Cologne, not too bad by itself, considering OP was still fairly good at that point and fnatic had been on an incredible run. High hopes were surely justified, but it seems they failed to develop from there. In fact, the team doesn't seem to trust either Mightily or Raven on anything really impactful, and Reapered/H0R0 seem so invested in this "we must 2v5" mindset that they take stupid risks and pay for it. Also, huge weakness in picking today - doubly sad considering it's probably been Reapered making those picks. I thought/hoped they'd at least be able to compete with AG, NaJin Shield and possibly new-formed TPS, but by now they look like the weakest team in the whole tournament - LGD at least put up a fight. How quick are korean organizations about dumping a team? Any chance for the SKT T1 team if they fail to make it into OGN Spring? | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On January 17 2013 20:41 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Meh SKT has always been a "get carried by Reapered or die" team; Mightily has just shown himself to be very weak, and their bot lane has shown great inflexibility transitioning smoothly from laning into midgame, and any team that has a semblance of midgame coordination like AG here can abuse it. Cologne was just SKT stomping a bunch of weak teams, I personally don't think it was indicative of strength on SKT's part. I sort of agree, but at the same time they fought PE to a pretty close 3-2 in the StarsWar Hero Arena, and PE is still a team that I'd say is a tier up on AG. On January 17 2013 20:50 DragoonTT wrote: They qualified against OP and CJ and beat fnatic in Cologne, not too bad by itself, considering OP was still fairly good at that point and fnatic had been on an incredible run. High hopes were surely justified, but it seems they failed to develop from there. In fact, the team doesn't seem to trust either Mightily or Raven on anything really impactful, and Reapered/H0R0 seem so invested in this "we must 2v5" mindset that they take stupid risks and pay for it. Also, huge weakness in picking today - doubly sad considering it's probably been Reapered making those picks. I think you're overvaluing their victory over fnatic in Cologne. Keep in mind that to all teams present except CJ, SKT1 was an unknown quantity at Cologne, which dramatically improves their chances of doing well in such a setting. All teams present here are going to be much more knowledgeable about SKT1 and how they operate--meaning their general strategy will be much more tailored toward hitting the points where T1 is vulnerable (e.g. when PE played T1 in SWL Hero Arena, their jungler basically just camped the shit out of Reapered knowing the other two lanes were probably going to win anyway). | ||
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DragoonTT
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On January 17 2013 20:50 TheYango wrote: I sort of agree, but at the same time they fought PE to a pretty close 3-2 in the StarsWar Hero Arena, and PE is still a team that I'd say is a tier up on AG. I think you're overvaluing their victory over fnatic in Cologne. Keep in mind that to all teams present except CJ, SKT1 was an unknown quantity at Cologne, which dramatically improves their chances of doing well in such a setting. All teams present here are going to be much more knowledgeable about SKT1 and how they operate--meaning their general strategy will be much more tailored toward hitting the points where T1 is vulnerable (e.g. when PE played T1 in SWL Hero Arena, their jungler basically just camped the shit out of Reapered knowing the other two lanes were probably going to win anyway). Funny enough, fnatic won the first game against SKT fairly handily, and then lost during the finals while arguably having much more material on their hands, and it's not like SKT played something terribly outlandish except maybe during the first game. I'm not saying this makes SKT a better team than fnatic, just that it justified hoping SKT could make it into the top tier of Korean LoL teams. In SWL now (in contrast to the Arena series), games didn't come down to teams knowing SKT better. SKT just straight up messed up - picked bad team comps, made bad calls, got outplayed. They look way worse than they did a month ago. Anyone who had seen the Arena series by SKT and AG (the week before) would probably have guessed for an easy 2-0 for SKT today, considering how MVP stomped AG in december, but they improved, while SKT didn't. | ||
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ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
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DragoonTT
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 Okay iG just swapped roles between their players. Lee Sin/Pantheon kill lane, Xerath solo mid. | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
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XaCez
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